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09-03-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
I was about to mention that she hasn't been seen in a while, but perhaps she does answer private messages.

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Originally Posted by Tr1p0nMyBluf
Hello - I did a search and saw conflicting/confusing info.

Please correct me if I'm wrong...

As of September 2018, as a US Player depositing on BetOnline and playing poker...

1) There is no poker reload bonus for deposits (just perhaps for the casino and/or sportsbook)

2) There is no longer a "4 or 6 table" maximum limit (what is the max then?)

3) Legit players who cash out regularly are not subject to being banned because they are "too good" and "do not reflect the recreational business model".

4) There is a VIP system where you can use points to buy into tournaments, but this only equates to about 1% rake back.

5) There is a daily or weekly rake race of some sort for cash game players.

6) There are likely bots here and there but management seems to take some action to reduce them.

7) If layering tables, the software does not always bring the active table to the front.

Does that all sound about right for the current climate for a US player playing poker on the BetOnline skin?

Thanks!

1. There is not a Reload Bonus that I'm currently aware of. There is the First Deposit Bonus if you're new.

2. The table cap for Cash Games is 8.

3. We have seen this in the past. I haven't heard of anyone posting about in the last few months.

4. VIP points do buy you into certain tournaments. I'm not sure on the exact percentage it equates to in rakeback. It is pretty small.

5. Daily.

6. This is definitely true in the NLHE Cash Games recently. I'm not sure how good they do with the other formats.

7. It's always worked for me when I have stacked, but I usually tile.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 09-03-2018 at 01:44 PM.
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09-03-2018 , 01:45 PM
Thanks MCA!
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09-03-2018 , 01:46 PM
You're welcome
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09-03-2018 , 06:57 PM
i havent withdrawn in quite a while and i'm wondering if they still have the friday fee discount. thanks
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09-03-2018 , 08:28 PM
I believe it's one free withdrawal every 30 days on a Friday. I believe you have to let them know you wish to take advantage of it when you withdraw.

I recommend Bitcoin for quick and fee free transactions.
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09-05-2018 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
6. This is definitely true in the NLHE Cash Games recently. I'm not sure how good they do with the other formats.
PLO bots are currently sitting 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th in the 1/2 cash rake leaderboard. Safe to say it's not going too well in other formats.
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09-05-2018 , 08:49 PM
Are sngs bot infested as well?
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09-06-2018 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I was about to mention that she hasn't been seen in a while, but perhaps she does answer private messages.
And as you mentioned earlier, it seems as if they take some of the suggestions left here. They have made the structures much more bearable. Since the update the nightly 7.5k $11 r+a and the 3k $6 r+a run every night, but it would be nice if the 5k $11 r+a were run too (it ran nightly before the update, but now only on the weekend). Certainly it will meet the guarantee and it is my hope that they will add another $11-$30 r+a during the week. A $20-$33 r+a 10k would be a great addition.
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09-06-2018 , 04:27 PM
would you guys recommend using blockchain for deposits on BOL or can just use CB ?directly
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09-06-2018 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
PLO bots are currently sitting 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th in the 1/2 cash rake leaderboard. Safe to say it's not going too well in other formats.
That is pretty damn gross. I appreciate you letting us know.


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Originally Posted by mamelas
And as you mentioned earlier, it seems as if they take some of the suggestions left here. They have made the structures much more bearable. Since the update the nightly 7.5k $11 r+a and the 3k $6 r+a run every night, but it would be nice if the 5k $11 r+a were run too (it ran nightly before the update, but now only on the weekend). Certainly it will meet the guarantee and it is my hope that they will add another $11-$30 r+a during the week. A $20-$33 r+a 10k would be a great addition.
That's cool that they seem to implement a few suggestions that are posted here. I don't hear about that happening with most of the other networks.


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Originally Posted by T-Dubs82
would you guys recommend using blockchain for deposits on BOL or can just use CB ?directly
I would definitely recommend an intermediary wallet. I've actually heard of CB accounts being closed even if the person always used CB>BC>Site and Site>BC>CB. CB is pretty strict about the transferring of funds to and from gambling sites.
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09-07-2018 , 04:50 AM
Hi, has anyone else received emails from Betonline claiming they have logged you playing on different IP's other than the ones native to where you live?

I've just received an email from them claiming they have logged me playing on Australian IPs, even though I live in New Zealand. I have replied to them explaining that I have only ever played from New Zealand, what more proof do I need to provide to them and what repercussions may I face if this doesn't get resolved?

I just cant understand how this type of problem even arises, its beyond me and is obviously very frustrating seeing as it is getting the way of a cashout, and I'm assuming if those goes any further and I am unable to verify that I am only playing from New Zealand, they will just freeze my account and take all of what I have worked so hard for.

If anyone else has had this problem plz let me know how you got it resolved asap, I can't afford to lose what I have.

I have two flatmates (i don't know them, they are seperate tenants in the aparment complex I rent in) who have access to the router that I use (i then use wireless T-stick to play online) is there any way they could be using proxies or anything that would affect what I am doing poker wise?

I have only ever played from New Zealand so how the f*** can they have logged australian IPs its just beyond me and its making me tilt so hard writing this right now. Let me know guys, thanks.

Majinboob
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09-08-2018 , 04:12 PM
Software crashing every 2 or so hours since the last update. Moving to ignition if I can’t find any solution.
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09-08-2018 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by thejin
Hi, has anyone else received emails from Betonline claiming they have logged you playing on different IP's other than the ones native to where you live?

I've just received an email from them claiming they have logged me playing on Australian IPs, even though I live in New Zealand. I have replied to them explaining that I have only ever played from New Zealand, what more proof do I need to provide to them and what repercussions may I face if this doesn't get resolved?

I just cant understand how this type of problem even arises, its beyond me and is obviously very frustrating seeing as it is getting the way of a cashout, and I'm assuming if those goes any further and I am unable to verify that I am only playing from New Zealand, they will just freeze my account and take all of what I have worked so hard for.

If anyone else has had this problem plz let me know how you got it resolved asap, I can't afford to lose what I have.

I have two flatmates (i don't know them, they are seperate tenants in the aparment complex I rent in) who have access to the router that I use (i then use wireless T-stick to play online) is there any way they could be using proxies or anything that would affect what I am doing poker wise?

I have only ever played from New Zealand so how the f*** can they have logged australian IPs its just beyond me and its making me tilt so hard writing this right now. Let me know guys, thanks.

Majinboob
Hey man that sucks to hear, I cannot give you much advice other than do a lot of research through google or talk to any computer science friends that you have or even explain your situation to your flatmates to gain information if they are using a proxy. I wish you the best of luck and hope things work out for you as a long time opponent.
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09-10-2018 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by thejin
Hi, has anyone else received emails from Betonline claiming they have logged you playing on different IP's other than the ones native to where you live?

I've just received an email from them claiming they have logged me playing on Australian IPs, even though I live in New Zealand. I have replied to them explaining that I have only ever played from New Zealand, what more proof do I need to provide to them and what repercussions may I face if this doesn't get resolved?

I just cant understand how this type of problem even arises, its beyond me and is obviously very frustrating seeing as it is getting the way of a cashout, and I'm assuming if those goes any further and I am unable to verify that I am only playing from New Zealand, they will just freeze my account and take all of what I have worked so hard for.

If anyone else has had this problem plz let me know how you got it resolved asap, I can't afford to lose what I have.

I have two flatmates (i don't know them, they are seperate tenants in the aparment complex I rent in) who have access to the router that I use (i then use wireless T-stick to play online) is there any way they could be using proxies or anything that would affect what I am doing poker wise?

I have only ever played from New Zealand so how the f*** can they have logged australian IPs its just beyond me and its making me tilt so hard writing this right now. Let me know guys, thanks.

Majinboob


I would immediately check with your roommates and locate the router. Is it connected to a modem or do you have a 2in1 gateway? Is it your ISP's equipment or self purchased? There could be 3rd party firmware loaded onto the router, such as DDWRT, tomato, etc that is not in your best interest.

BE AWARE a PROXY IS UNENCRYPTED AND YOUR WEB TRAFFIC IS OPEN FOR VIEWING TO WHOMEVER IS RUNNING THE SERVER UNLESS YOU ARE USING HTTPS:// SOPHISTICATED MEASURES.

A cyber security consultant would tell you first, that having java, flash, cookies, and the big one HTML5, Reveals your true IP with a proxy, and sometimes with a VPN configured.

It is all in a message header along with very identifying information. This is what they are seeing.

It sounds like this is a lot of money. Ask for the IP in question and tell them to analyze the headers. (Make sure you talk to security dept)

Either way, if you’re on a proxy and unaware, somebody is highly likely viewing your traffic through Wireshark and monitoring your web traffic.

PM with any questions
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09-10-2018 , 02:51 AM
thank you for your responses
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09-11-2018 , 06:47 PM
my BTC deposits have gotten slower and slower. been waiting 2.5 hrs to get $145. what a joke
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09-11-2018 , 07:50 PM
If you think 2.5hrs is a joke then I can't imagine you've been playing internet poker for very long. Their average timeframe is within 24hrs which is pretty good to me.

I hate the software, but Bovada/Ignition/Bodog payout reports have been super fast lately. I believe WPN sites are even a bit quicker than the Chico sites. For the superior software I can put up with a little extra waiting.
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09-11-2018 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
If you think 2.5hrs is a joke then I can't imagine you've been playing internet poker for very long. Their average timeframe is within 24hrs which is pretty good to me.

I hate the software, but Bovada/Ignition/Bodog payout reports have been super fast lately. I believe WPN sites are even a bit quicker than the Chico sites. For the superior software I can put up with a little extra waiting.
He is talking about deposits not cashouts. 24h deposits would be joke
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09-11-2018 , 10:46 PM
Oh wow. That's some poor reading on my part. I appreciate the kind correction. When I saw 2.5hrs my brain instantly assumed he meant withdrawal because my deposits to any site over the last few years have been credited very quickly. That does seem like a ridiculously long wait. Unless they're requiring verification prior to deposit, which I doubt they would, I can't imagine why it would be taking so long.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 09-11-2018 at 10:53 PM.
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09-12-2018 , 04:59 PM
I've read here and a couple other places that BOL will ban their biggest winners to protect the casual players from pros.

Does anyone have any idea roughly how much you have to be make on BOL before they ban you for winning?

I assume that BOL keeps that information fairly private, so I doubt I'll get an honest reply, so barring that, does anyone want to (anonymously or not) claim to be consistently withdrawing more than 3K a month from them? 5k? 10k?
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09-15-2018 , 05:19 AM
Is anyone else having the Bet field reset to minimum when the Time Bank starts? I've accidentally min-bet/min-raised a few times now. I contacted Live Chat to let them know and I was told they could not escalate the situation without a screenshot or video. I can't see how a screenshot would help and I'm currently unable to provide them with a video, but I will when I can. I wanted to know if others are experiencing this or if it's just me?
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09-16-2018 , 10:14 AM
I've logged around 10k hands in the past couple weeks at PLO10 and 3 specific players stand out to me:

feo_fan
novikmi
pyropyro

They're never on at the same time... Everyone says they are bots... They never talk... They never move up; I had put in some volume here a couple years ago they were here... I'm almost certain one or two of them are never on the cash leaderboard although they all clearly put in enough hours to be on there; though I'll have to take another look at that to confirm... And they all have similar stats and all crush compared to the field... Same players bot rotating in shifts? Is this known information? What is going on here?
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09-16-2018 , 03:59 PM
There are some bots. It's certainly possible that those accounts are botting. All you can really do is contact Customer Support to let them know and then avoid playing with them as much as possible.
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09-16-2018 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
There are some bots. It's certainly possible that those accounts are botting. All you can really do is contact Customer Support to let them know and then avoid playing with them as much as possible.
Well I've emailed them... These are the players with stats:

When one is done playing another gets on shortly after like clockwork... They all time out when they're done playing... Stats are nearly identical over a smallish sample...






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09-16-2018 , 09:32 PM
Sample sizes are a bit too small to say anything definitive, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were. You've really done all you can do. Keep tracking them and reporting them to Support with hopes that they eventually do something about them.

I recently reported some NLHE bots. They haven't been removed yet, but I've seen many disappear in the last year when I've sent them lists. Unfortunately we haven't heard of the same removal of bots in the PLO Cash games.
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