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Old 07-27-2018, 12:54 PM   #5651
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

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I never verified my account for BOL or on ACR for that matter. Only site i did was Global and they were the only ones who didn't pay up lol.

Both have been through crypto, btw
Thanks for that info mamelas. This is obviously a security concern that should be addressed.

The fact that players winning money are able to withdraw without any verification is unacceptable when there's so much potential for cheating. Why wouldn't a banned player just return with a new IP address and use a different name, email and other signup info?

I believe sites should require verification prior to play, but I understand wanting to limit the time it takes to let people play after signing up. It wouldn't matter as much if the sites refunded players for cheating when the cheater went to cash out, but we know in the event a seizure that many sites keep these funds for themselves without redistributing them to the affected.

The preventative security measures in place at many of these sites is just so poor. It's not just this network, but the majority of the industry lacks the security measures necessary to maintain the integrity of the games.

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Old 07-27-2018, 01:37 PM   #5652
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most sites ask you to verify ur account once you cashout. Chico is actually one of the first major network i see not caring about it
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Old 07-27-2018, 01:44 PM   #5653
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but we know in the event of a seizure that many sites keep these funds for themselves without redistributing them to the affected.
I had heard they weren't requiring verification when depositing/withdrawing via crypto on the WPN sites right before they lost their dedicated Two Plus Two forum. I had no idea this network was also being as careless.
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Old 07-27-2018, 09:05 PM   #5654
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

Tigergaming cannot be reached from Turkey since May. Since then Im trying to withdraw my money, sent dozens of emails, but they dont seem to care.

Anyone else in the same position?
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Old 07-28-2018, 05:50 AM   #5655
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I am in Thailand at the moment, I can't seem to connect without a VPN, I have seen some people post this before, Is there a way to fix it?
It used to work before , now its only VPN , with the risk of your account being closed.
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Old 07-28-2018, 06:22 AM   #5656
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tigergaming seems shady af, dunno why BOL would let another skin be so careless about the network reputation
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Old 07-28-2018, 07:53 AM   #5657
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Honestly I am pretty sure it is not skin related, it just happen to be that most winning players, especially eastern europeans are playing on Tigergaming
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Old 07-28-2018, 01:08 PM   #5658
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is anyone else having problems with their scroll wheel? Super annoying!!! My scroll wheel works in every other app but not in Sportsbetting options pop up or at the table, except sometimes when it feels like it!
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:23 AM   #5659
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Tigergaming cannot be reached from Turkey since May. Since then Im trying to withdraw my money, sent dozens of emails, but they dont seem to care.

Anyone else in the same position?
Here in Greece also, it got listed in the prohibited poker sites, but after repeated emails I managed to make the payout..I have no complaints.. Good luck

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Old 07-31-2018, 02:51 AM   #5660
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

Friends, i am sick of waiting and all this, Please i need your help. If that goes well - paying $$$ to helped user is priority for me.

I created account long time ago, Mainly i was playing at other pokersites, but one evening i decided to give a try for TigerGaming and deposited 200$ via Ethereum. It turned out very lucky and i was able to hit 1700-1800$ in couple days playing with no bankroll management . I was playing 100$ hyper turbo and PLO100-200. I was as glad as possible, this is huge money for me in Russia)))
I talked to support many times and they said if you used crypto there is NO need for verification. Unfortunatly, i hadnt saved chat transcription but you can easily ask in Live Chat about that and they tell you same.

They ask me for ID, Selfie with ID, Utility Bill with same address as i used to register and photos of all used credit cards attempted on their system even though i never made successful deposit with credit cards, due probably forbiden gambling operations from my bank. This is very strange request IMO. Why would i need to sent photos of Credit Cards that were not successful in deposit ?

However, i have made all photos they asked for. I provided them on July 27-28. Proofs is below. Since then, after 3 days and more there were no answer from TigerGaming!!! They simply doesnt want to pay winnings !!!! My account is blocked, I cannot login, cannot play, cannot withdraw ! And that is cuz i tried to get my profits ! Deposit, playing was with no block for sure. Wanna bring money to TigerGaming sure - you are good to go ! But when u will try to take wins - they block you , ban your account and ignore any emails you sent them !!! Simply as the that. Great business !!!!

Screenshots of sent Documents:




Only bad thing about me is when i was registering account i made a mistake on entering date of birth, i told support about that. I've sent correct date of birth that is on my ID. Rest data - full name, address, cards are 100% correct.

Sorry for my bad English, guys.
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:02 AM   #5661
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

All these comments are starting to worry me. Making me consider cashing out and depositing to a different site...
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:10 AM   #5662
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I am trying to cash out since 3 or 4 weeks now (tigergaming). All attempts got cancelled so far and now my account is under a standard 72hr review. Might take a little longer...
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Old 07-31-2018, 08:29 AM   #5663
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

I've got answer from support

Enjoy this "wonderful" poker site



If you dont wanna open link or its not loading:
"Support saying - we don't have specified timeframe for verification proccess"
So, if they want they easily will block your account (for not paying winnings) and take ANY time they want to verify it. Who knows how many - week, month, 5 months, a year... Do you want to play here ?


As of now - more than 4 days have passed with zero progress. My account still closed for verification eventhough i provided full documents more than 100hours ago.
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:12 AM   #5664
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

It can take sites like these weeks or months to get paid in situations like this so posting followups each day won't be helping
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Old 07-31-2018, 11:52 AM   #5665
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

I know they are just separate skins for Chico, but seems a lot of withdrawal problems are with tiger gaming. Anyone having cash out problems using BetOnline?
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Old 07-31-2018, 01:33 PM   #5666
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

You don't need identification verification with crypto because there is no possibility to reverse the payment. I think it is fine if a site wants to allow bitcoin deposits and cashouts without ID and it is convenient for the players, especially because a lot of sites scam by not accepting ID photos.
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:22 PM   #5667
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You don't need identification verification with crypto because there is no possibility to reverse the payment. I think it is fine if a site wants to allow bitcoin deposits and cashouts without ID and it is convenient for the players, especially because a lot of sites scam by not accepting ID photos.
How do they stop cheaters from returning with a new IP address if they don't require identification?
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:53 PM   #5668
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How do they stop cheaters from returning with a new IP address if they don't require identification?
There are plenty techonologies to identify users, you can find info about them by googling following keywords:

1. canvas, webgl, webrtc, ahoyrtc, mac address.
I heard of complex anti-fraud systems that can easily find users even if they reinstall OS, change little hardware. Changing only IP address is like 2000 year.

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It can take sites like these weeks or months to get paid in situations like this so posting followups each day won't be helping
Months ?? Is this serious ? I am not hoping to solve it by just posting follow-ups. I would like to get your wise advices how to change situation and also warn other players that would like to play @TigerGaming.
What if i write to betonline, is there any head office contacts - phone, email, anything ?


Simply , be ready that when you would happily try to get your winnings - your account will be banned and verified for not specified period of time....
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Old 07-31-2018, 04:34 PM   #5669
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There are plenty techonologies to identify users, you can find info about them by googling following keywords:

1. canvas, webgl, webrtc, ahoyrtc, mac address.
I heard of complex anti-fraud systems that can easily find users even if they reinstall OS, change little hardware. Changing only IP address is like 2000 year.
LOL at an unregulated grey market poker site using complex anti-fraud systems. They can't even identify all of the bots at the tables by themselves.

Why use complex anti-fraud systems when simple identification verification is sufficient? If they suspected anything suspicious they could send a pop-up on the table requiring you to take a selfie with your ID and the pop-up on the computer in the background. This would solve the majority of issues with returning cheaters using fake IDs.

Do any of the bigger regulated sites not require identification verification?
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:12 PM   #5670
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disconnected..
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:15 PM   #5671
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Same
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:21 PM   #5672
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BRUTAL!!!... thought it was my internet.
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:26 PM   #5673
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Re: Unofficial Chico Network (BetOnline, Tiger, etc.) Discussion Thread

Does the http 525 code indicate that its DDoS? seemed like the description I got claimed that the handshake couldn't be completed because of excess traffic.

I am just hoping that it is 100% of users because I was regged for a few lobbies, any previous experience with getting refunds if that were the case?
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:40 PM   #5674
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Just spoke to the Live Chat lady, who specified we will be granted our refunds in all the tournaments we were in. As soon as, Poker is up and running. It's happened to me a few times and they are really great getting our refunds back in our accounts, without any worries.


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Does the http 525 code indicate that its DDoS? seemed like the description I got claimed that the handshake couldn't be completed because of excess traffic.

I am just hoping that it is 100% of users because I was regged for a few lobbies, any previous experience with getting refunds if that were the case?
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:13 PM   #5675
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It's back up for me. Very few tables running as expected.
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