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11-18-2017 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
What are you asking about xBigx? Are you asking about hand history in games where players are cheating or just in general? Anyone that has a hud with a database that works on the network can get their hand history.



I'm sure you're very aware, but DoNs are some of the easiest games to collude in. With all of the cheating going on in low stakes cash games and the lack of security on the network I would be shocked if there wasn't cheating happening in the high buy-in sngs. I used to play the highest buy-in sngs at Bovada and the low buy-in sngs on this network were tougher when I played them. The bots and collusion was pretty obvious. Add in the 10% rake and I decided trying to move up through them here wasn't worth my time.
I was talking about using BOL HUD to grab hand history and use it in HM or PT4 instead of getting a card catcher... Just wondering if its possible..
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11-18-2017 , 06:06 AM
I'd be surprised if you could do that, but I haven't used their hud so I can't say for certain that you wouldn't be able to. Isn't their hud basically a HoldemIndicator clone?
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11-18-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown
I'd be surprised if you could do that, but I haven't used their hud so I can't say for certain that you wouldn't be able to. Isn't their hud basically a HoldemIndicator clone?

Yes it's a clone and no I don't think it acts as a card catcher. I don't use the HUD but I do keep the pot odds calculor running
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11-18-2017 , 05:36 PM
i would rather play with bots for the rest of my life than spend another second on ignition lol
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11-18-2017 , 05:56 PM
I assume you're referring to the software. That is why I moved my action here a year ago. While playing with the bots is less tilting than the software headaches of Bonition they still need to go. There's just too damn many on this network.
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11-18-2017 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
Fairly certain player "tankmebaby" is a bot or something.

That name is literally on almost 24/7 - No matter when I log in, hes on. Always at a table. And rarely playing too. Very odd. constantly joins tables and leaves.
That player is so annoying. Sits at every PLO table at lower limits, but is sitting out 80% of the time and won't play less than 5-handed and only against certain lineups.

He plays way differently than the normal bot accounts though, so him being connected an awful lot is the only indication he might be a bot. Could just be a terrible reg who needs a super juicy lineup to have a chance.
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11-18-2017 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
That player is so annoying. Sits at every PLO table at lower limits, but is sitting out 80% of the time and won't play less than 5-handed and only against certain lineups.

He plays way differently than the normal bot accounts though, so him being connected an awful lot is the only indication he might be a bot. Could just be a terrible reg who needs a super juicy lineup to have a chance.

Yep he is ALWAYS sitting out and always on. Drives me nuts
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11-19-2017 , 12:26 PM
I'd like to do my first payout from BetOnline. It says I have no funds. Do I have to transfer funds to the Sportsbook first?
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11-19-2017 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zkagz
I'd like to do my first payout from BetOnline. It says I have no funds. Do I have to transfer funds to the Sportsbook first?


Yes. In poker client click transfer to sports book then you can cashout
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11-19-2017 , 03:20 PM
Is it possible to get more bonuses to unlock? My initial deposit bonus has expired.
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11-19-2017 , 03:41 PM
Hi,

Not sure if this is the place to post this, but there is clear colluding going on at the high stakes DoNs - If you watch the lobby closely there are two types of games which seem to fill.

One, which appears from nowhere and is 5/8 (5 of which are clearly together, and sometimes not even trying to hide it)

and other ones which do not get table started by one of these crews. (and you will seem some decentish regs in these games - who may also be colluding who knows, but there is clearly a lot more variety in the names)

The above groups of 5 are often so obvious and can be quickly checked if you have a sharkscope account.

One of the first groups i saw was in $50 DoNs - they are had "recreational" type names, but they all had silver star (which is weird and what set my off to check) i then look them up, all 5 accounts created on the same date, and 5 accounts had exact same game count bar 2 games either side (all $50 DoNs) and ofcourse only enter games with each other.

The second group is at the higher stakes, 150 and 200 level, what they have done is find a low stakes losing players name with an "L" in it and replace it with and I, so when you look them up you see a low stakes losing player (and if you dont check closer they havent even played above $5 usually - so never entered a 150) -- these account names are

High stakes guy --- Low stakes guy
Lronbark ---- Ironbark
siowsven -----slowsven
Fiytin ---- Flytin
siimbaii88 --- Slimball88
Diiilon the shark --- Dillon the Shark

Who seem to be the current 5, but a couple of weeks ago when i report them the 5 were slightly different, but same name setups

Lndigokid -- Indigokid
biueray849 --Blueray849
eider_Liiith -- Elder_lilith

and then iron bark and dillon the shark were in there completing the 5.

If you are used to the tiger gaming lobby there is no real way to filter it. So i unusually have it showing games with the most in them e.g 6/8 at top over 4/8 etc. The games with these crews pop up out of nowhere - all of a sudden there is a 150$ game in the lobby 5/8 - where other games filling so slowly say off peak and highest game running is like $20, all of a sudden in comes a 5/8 high stakes DoN.

I have reported these names etc to their support, but it doesn't exactly seem like much gets done other than them telling me that bots get auto banned and they would be banned if colluding anytime money would go in and out etc but i find that hard to believe.

It can't be a coincidence that all the players in the game have similar naming style as higher stake players (or the other group who didn't even try and hide it with accounts all created exactly the same day)

My flatmate has played in 2 of their games i think when he first played on the site when one of their games would of been 7/8 - i might be able to find those HHs, otherwise all i have to go by is the account names, timings of play, how often they are in each others games, and the small amount of time ive watch the games play out -- But i am well aware of how SNGs should play out from past experience (70k sngs on stars) and have played a decent sample on the tiger DoNs at medium to low stakes and there is definitely something off.

Nick

NB: These players are taking some serious cash out from these games at high rois, if they are actually 1 person of a group - they have taken over 50K + in the last 3 months

Last edited by NutCrackerAA; 11-19-2017 at 03:47 PM. Reason: adding small extra note
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11-19-2017 , 06:42 PM
Hi,

sorry to post again before any responses, but the other group who was so obvious about it is now at it again... (I thought they might have been banned because i hadn't seen them in a few days)


bobbyaxelrot
vilalabrevis
cristopherpauls
rosebikeitr
meoweasyy


all have same start date and game counts if you search using shark scope

Nick
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11-19-2017 , 09:31 PM
damn, thanks for posting
seems pretty lolobvious with the same join date and game counts, how are cheaters this ******ed?
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11-19-2017 , 09:59 PM
If the sites aren't doing anything to prevent it then why is it that dumb? Security is either incompetent or complicit with the cheating going on. At best they are waiting for the cheaters to attempt a withdrawal to confiscate the funds for themselves while allowing unaware members of the community to be cheated without compensation. We have no idea if that is the case though. It's very possible these accounts have made successful withdrawals already.

Given the fact the security is useless, the only possible way for us to do anything about getting rid of the cheaters in the games is to expose them with a YouTube video and distibuting it to the big poker forums, Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit. At the very least if they chose not to take action at least more members of the community would be made aware. When the Blackjack cheating video got some traction they made a change. Maybe doing the same for poker would have an effect.

Last edited by MCAChiTown; 11-19-2017 at 10:20 PM.
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11-19-2017 , 10:29 PM
It is pretty disgusting.


I think security doesn’t care personally.

Why not call and ask to speak to a supervisor?

I don’t play the DONs so I can’t give a real solid breakdown of what’s happening to the T

I highly suggest you guys call
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11-20-2017 , 01:07 AM
Can anybody refer me to an affiliate that will provide rakeback like the old Party Poker days?
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11-20-2017 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Man o' War Jr.
Can anybody refer me to an affiliate that will provide rakeback like the old Party Poker days?
Me too, please.
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11-20-2017 , 06:30 AM
I've played with those DoN players. Lost 9 of 10 games. I've trippled up and still lost those DoN's because of perfect timing and being unable to shove/steal the right time. It was so frustrating.

I also e-mailed support but have not received an answer.
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11-20-2017 , 10:26 AM
what happend the bronze sng leaderboard?
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11-20-2017 , 11:41 AM
hi people..my kingshands converter licence just ended and im wondering if someone can suggest another handgrabber???..im pretty satisfied but i just stepped on the planetconverter one that has a lifetime and not yearly licence,but i am not relly sure how much it costs...any help?
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11-20-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mukinyul
what happend the bronze sng leaderboard?
i have the same question.

i got an email saying i got a $25 bonus from this weeks bronze sng leaderboard.

the amount would be correct as im currently in 5th place but the week just started. also the bonus is not in my account and the $1 no limit sngs arent all
showing in the lobby.
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11-20-2017 , 01:37 PM
Has anyone noticed that BOL's price (in USD) for btc when making a deposit is lower than the rate listed on any of the exchanges? I cross checked it last night with like 3 to 4 exchanges including bitstamp, coindesk, etc...
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11-20-2017 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
Has anyone noticed that BOL's price (in USD) for btc when making a deposit is lower than the rate listed on any of the exchanges? I cross checked it last night with like 3 to 4 exchanges including bitstamp, coindesk, etc...
I have not. But I will say my cash outs have been near exact for what I requested which was nice. Now if only Coinbase didn’t rob me for fees
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11-21-2017 , 09:02 AM
they ****ed up the weekly sng leaderboard
delete any small sng?? delete HILO sng? why?
Gold category 100$+? Nobody play 100$+ sng on this site, only few cheaters on 200$ DON(24% ROI lol)
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11-21-2017 , 09:31 AM
Glad they changed the sng leaderboard.. Now all russians can't afford to play 20 tables at a time at $7.00 a pop and rack up sng leaderboard points
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