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08-25-2017 , 02:24 AM
Dear growing number of mid-high stakes regs here,

I like a bit of table selection as much as the next massive bumhunter, but please stop sitting out and snap sitting back in again in tandem with the fun player at the table. It really doesn't hurt to play a few rounds reg on reg action, and doesn't look so suspicious. These guys are our customers.
If you can't afford a few bbs, perhaps you should consider moving down, or leaving the table.
Thanks.

Also, this isn't a great look either:

http://www.gyazo.com/6c5919e3c7b1aef5193009458d2fd0fa



Stay classy, and see you at the tables

Last edited by mmmutiny; 08-25-2017 at 02:27 AM. Reason: inserting image fish.. changed to link instead
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08-25-2017 , 11:16 AM
Anyone else having trouble logging in? It takes me 4 or 5 attempts to log in sometimes
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08-25-2017 , 11:19 AM
Looks like it is down?
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08-25-2017 , 12:52 PM
the update looking good
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08-25-2017 , 02:25 PM
I've been connected since 5am central time with no disconnects. Plenty of tables running. I wonder why some of you guys are having issues?
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08-25-2017 , 07:09 PM
I can't get on
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08-25-2017 , 07:10 PM
I haven't had any issue logging in for the last 3 days. I also haven't noticed the update. Are there major changes?
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08-25-2017 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by madmansam
I haven't had any issue logging in for the last 3 days. I also haven't noticed the update. Are there major changes?
yes. the graphics look a bit different but the buttons/lobby etc all are similar to prior.
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08-25-2017 , 08:04 PM
I was able to get on and play last night with no issue, however have not been able to log in today - multiple attempts/ multiple times. I uninstalled the software and went to redownload but (as others have noted) the download poker link on betonline.ag is dead as well.
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08-25-2017 , 08:51 PM
Can't login. Keep getting a network error.
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08-25-2017 , 09:12 PM
I got on after several attempts this morning, but not now......
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08-25-2017 , 09:33 PM
Traffic seems good so it's very odd that you all are having issues. I wonder if there's a common link like same isp?
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08-26-2017 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sneakerpoker
Has anyone had personal experience with their check payouts? I requested the expresscheck today. Support said it should take approximately once the payout is approved.
I cashed out my first check july 20th and still waiting for it (nervously).
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08-26-2017 , 12:40 AM
I wanted to set it up so it goes directly into my account. But i couldn't find my banks fig number or something so i gave up
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08-26-2017 , 12:46 AM
It takes me 10-15 times to log into BOL lately
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08-26-2017 , 03:52 AM
I have had no issues logging into BOL since the update (USA)
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08-26-2017 , 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmmutiny
Dear growing number of mid-high stakes regs here,

I like a bit of table selection as much as the next massive bumhunter, but please stop sitting out and snap sitting back in again in tandem with the fun player at the table. It really doesn't hurt to play a few rounds reg on reg action, and doesn't look so suspicious. These guys are our customers.
If you can't afford a few bbs, perhaps you should consider moving down, or leaving the table.
Thanks.

Also, this isn't a great look either:

http://www.gyazo.com/6c5919e3c7b1aef5193009458d2fd0fa



Stay classy, and see you at the tables
I have been trying to spread this message to all of the mid/hs regs since I started playing here. Its unbelievable how this is the norm on here and it's way worse here than I've seen on other sites...most players don't even play to an even amount of buttons nor seem to have any idea what I'm referring to when I mention it after they insta-sit out.

It also looks terrible to any recreational player that a table can remain empty with only one player seated for hours and as soon as a 'fun player' sits the table fills almost instantly. That seems predatory enough but then to make matters worse as soon as they bust 4 out of the 5 remaining players click the sit out button or just leave.

To those of you that make your living off of 'fun players' you should realize that appearance is everything and there's very few people who will continue to deposit day after day if there's even the slightest hint of impropriety. You're going to put yourself out of business.
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08-26-2017 , 05:15 PM
Having connection problems....... Of course I'm deep in tourny
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08-26-2017 , 08:03 PM
I'm currently unable to get on...
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08-26-2017 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cold front
I have been trying to spread this message to all of the mid/hs regs since I started playing here. Its unbelievable how this is the norm on here and it's way worse here than I've seen on other sites...most players don't even play to an even amount of buttons nor seem to have any idea what I'm referring to when I mention it after they insta-sit out.

It also looks terrible to any recreational player that a table can remain empty with only one player seated for hours and as soon as a 'fun player' sits the table fills almost instantly. That seems predatory enough but then to make matters worse as soon as they bust 4 out of the 5 remaining players click the sit out button or just leave.

To those of you that make your living off of 'fun players' you should realize that appearance is everything and there's very few people who will continue to deposit day after day if there's even the slightest hint of impropriety. You're going to put yourself out of business.
This is also a symptom of a broken game. Poker is played out and fundamentally flawed. The only way for a cash game to survive and be profitable is if 2-3 players at the table are horrible. That's not exactly how competition is supposed to work lol.

Basically, the game's way past it's time. Of course since some of you are addicted to it you're going to keep playing but you're pumping a dry well. The game's never coming back to popularity at all.
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08-26-2017 , 09:35 PM
None of this should surprise anyone. The US facing sites are filled with bots, collusion, house players, and cartels. It shouldn't shock anyone that the house players on WPN and BOL can see your hole cards. It's been like that for years. Only a totally naïve fool would continue to listen to the people on 2p2 who profit from this corruption and believe it's a matter of "variance".

There's actually a massive, massive DOJ investigation into these offshore sites taking place as we speak. People have turned over thousands upon thousands of hours of footage (gameplay footage from these sites) as well as massive databases and statistical logs. These sites have been ripping us off for years and they've actually gotten worse in the last few months. They went too far at this point, got too greedy, and drew a ton of attention now.

If you're an affiliate and your goal is to bring new US players into the fray so you can rip them off: Good luck. Nobody's really interested in poker anymore. You guys killed the golden goose.
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08-26-2017 , 09:46 PM
The update software is terrible. The last was absolutely perfect. The Check, Bet, Raise and Fold buttons are rounded off now, slightly a brighter red so it's a bit distracting and doesn't look clean the way the other ones were with the 3D kinda style to them. For the bet sizing 1/2, 3/4 and All In are dark now so having a dark background is a extremely tilting, as well. As for the lobby, it's just not the same. Last one was so much cleaner looking. I really hope they go back b/c that was the update, this one is such a down grade.
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08-26-2017 , 09:51 PM
I confirm! The bots are at NLH too. Here is my list NL100-200
Spoiler:

djmo
sun_ray
smooth13
miru_mir
50chips
good4prk
leucocyte
fabclap
bolshe
shah
runguru
gfozket
psychoagrokaws
goldshow
wildskin
cutepyggy
samlog
slavpok
fulstacker
kings1ze
rivok
sahasrakha
jewipopi
floposaur

All of them have:
1) high Agg% at flop-turn, standart river: somewhere about 43-43-25
2) WWSF 48-53
3) High cbet 75+ flop&turn at mway pots. also high float flop&turn at mway and heads up. Bet-fold at such pots is over 75%
4) High 4bet range. If 4bet is almost 3x of higher, fold to 5bet-push tends to 100%
5) TOT Fold to flop cbet in SRP 40%
6) Another stats are almost identical

Last edited by Ksander; 08-26-2017 at 09:59 PM.
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08-27-2017 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ksander
I confirm! The bots are at NLH too. Here is my list NL100-200
Spoiler:

djmo
sun_ray
smooth13
miru_mir
50chips
good4prk
leucocyte
fabclap
bolshe
shah
runguru
gfozket
psychoagrokaws
goldshow
wildskin
cutepyggy
samlog
slavpok
fulstacker
kings1ze
rivok
sahasrakha
jewipopi
floposaur

All of them have:
1) high Agg% at flop-turn, standart river: somewhere about 43-43-25
2) WWSF 48-53
3) High cbet 75+ flop&turn at mway pots. also high float flop&turn at mway and heads up. Bet-fold at such pots is over 75%
4) High 4bet range. If 4bet is almost 3x of higher, fold to 5bet-push tends to 100%
5) TOT Fold to flop cbet in SRP 40%
6) Another stats are almost identical
I saw one of these guys flat A2s on the button then 4 bet shove it when squeezed lol. Doesn't sound like a bot move, right?

He also stopped barrelling turns as much against me (i'm a station) after a couple sessions.
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08-27-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hateordiehere
It takes me 10-15 times to log into BOL lately
+1... it's riDONKulous lately! I'm about to pull my roll off if it doesn't get better in a week
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