Man they need to do somethign about seating scripts. NL200 + is unplayable. You can't get any action if you dont have a script anymore. Most people now camp tables sitout in hope of getting a seat, very bad for the game. Put 4 tables max back on

+1, completely agree, just brutally unplayable, impossible to get a seat, so much camping. most recs know that automated software is being used, bc its too obvious, they'll type in chat asking players to respond to confirm they're real people (and I don't blame them), youll also see recs hopping from table to table trying to get away from all the scripting regs/feeling targeted. its such a **** show on here. tables form and break so quickly, the time spent on table management is absurd compared to other sites.
I guess 4 table max could improve the situation a fair amount, but I wish they would just do something about scripting/camping and leave table limits aside.

+2 That's funny because RWE and I were just discussing this via PM yesterday. At least half of the time the rec players immediately leave because the second they sit the table fills and the wait list gets full. It just looks too predatory.

I'm not in favor of limiting the table cap. 8 seems perfect to me. I'd rather they banned the seat scripts, like RWE suggested. If they can't/won't ban the seat scripts, then I agree that a 4 table cap would be better than nothing to deter what's going on now.

All of the seat scripting is pretty ridiculous, but so are all of the bots they let stick around. It's just something I've gotten used to like the bots. Each issue deters people from playing on this network. It would be nice to see them make some changes given that their software is so much better than my other options and keeps me around, but if I can't get enough action because of these issues I'll look to play elsewhere more often as I move passed 200NL.

Will there be anymore boost MTT's? I liked playing in the 4 max last night.

They should run 4 ,6 and 9 seated and throw in some pko's.

Will there be more? Probably. How often is anyone's guess. They don't have a network representative that posts in here regularly to ask. You could email them with your question and suggestion. Otherwise you'll just have to regularly check the daily schedule.

Thanks mate, will do

This Event 14 debacle is probably going to be enough to run me off the site.

For those of you who aren't aware, they are currently running a tournament promotion called 25 days of poker and they have totally shat the bed on event 14. 100% of the people who qualified for the tournament weren't issued their ticket.

The only people who are playing right now are the people who personally complained in the live chat.

And there is a 20 minute wait to talk to anyone in the live chat.

Despite the bots, the seating scripts, and all the other ways this site is f-d, it's still profitable, so I've stuck with it for awhile. But jesus.

Trusting these people with my money is starting to feel just plain stupid.

Yeah the scripting is annoying. I'll eventually get a seat and all 5 regs will sit out and leave. I think this makes the games softer tho, no one will play me which is prob good bc my ego is too big and some of these guys prob have an edge. If u can get in a game is usually a pretty good one

nah man, table quality is not good on here at higher stakes, yes occasionally there are tables that run 3+ hours with a whale, but they are few and far between.

This seems like a pretty small issue to leave the site over, but it does sound annoying to have to beg for what you were promised.

I've won a few of these tickets so far. I almost always forgot to register because I don't get a notice that I've won a ticket until they email me like an hour before the tournament. Unless I happen to check my email during that hour before, I usually miss entering them. It would nice if you were alerted at the table or by email right after you completed the challenge.

Luckily I caught the 1 chip instant all in tournament ticket and somehow took 2nd in a 400 player field. Easiest $90 I ever made. LoL

I've noticed you can sometimes register before the ticket is issued if you've completed the challenge. Did you try to register and it wouldn't let you?

Hello, Chico support. Several cash players been breaking rules by seating out everyday for many month now at 6max tables (although I told them in chat that this is against rules many times).

Nicknames are:gabruchi, oriane17, pachiila25, tyge brahe, otb_Lm, iceman2709, $lamdonk.

They refuse to play without recreational player joining the table. Could you please do something about that since you started sending email with warnings to sit-outers?

Proofs:

You're right. It's minor, but it's more of a straw-that-broke-the-camel's back type of thing for me.

Maybe I'm just spoiled--in my head, I'm still comparing this site to the way things used to be.

I made a decent living on Stars and Full Tilt for five years and the issues on those sites were minuscule. I trusted them unquestionably right up until the moment that my account got frozen and I was forced to wait for 3 years until I got my 36k back from them.

I got burned badly by sites that were run 10x better than this piece of **** site. Now I'm working twice as hard on table selection to make 20% of hourly rate I used to make on a site that jacks up the administration fee of their bad beat jackpot once it gets large enough. They won't answer a simple rules clarification question on their live chat without the customer service representative asking for the answer to my security question and they won't recognize this as a serious security flaw. And just because the software is better than the current competition does not make it good--it's still buggy AF compared to the pre-2011 sites that were available.

Yes, it's profitable for me, but the games here are probably only so soft because a lot of long-term winning, serious players who have a better options wouldn't touch this site with a 10 foot pole and what you are left with is a large percent of recreational players who don't know any better and bots that play here because this site has shown almost no effort to get rid of them despite being provided with lists and clear evidence of known bots.

Sorry for the rant, but the current state of things just sucks.

The money I'm making here isn't substantial enough to justify the embarrassment I feel for paying rake to these jokers.

Maybe I could learn how to be a truck driver. Mav, you have the number of that truck driving school we saw on TV? Truckmaster I think it is. I'm gonna need that.

I know a guy named Knish who has a truck you can drive

Please email them as well.


You make great points and I agree with almost everything you said.

The one slight difference of opinion I have is the software. Over all the years(12+) that I've played online, this has been one of the most reliable, if not the most reliable, clients I have ever played on. I played at the big ones you mentioned back in the day, certainly nowhere near as much as you, and I know I had more issues at those.

The one issue I do have, and it's relatively new in the last couple of months, is that I'm constantly posting the big blind in early position as soon as I'm sat at a table when I was on a wait list . Obviously I have the setting checked to Wait for the BB to Post in Options. I wish they would fix that soon.


Good lord you must be old because just knowing that quote makes me old, but you can be my wingman any time.

Whilst both scripting and camping are against the rules, one of the worst behaviours imo is sitting out when the rec sits out or loses his stack, then snap sitting back in when they rejoin / reload.

If forced to order the nefariousness it would be: sitting in / out with rec >> camping >> scripting.

The reason for scripting being the lesser of the evils here is that even without scripts, tables fill up in 1-3s rather than <1s with. So it's not too much different anyway. That's the way it's been for a long, long time. Not excusing it, but it is what it is. Removing scripts doesn't change much in that regard.
Source: I'm old and have been playing online poker for nearly as long as it has existed. i.e. - before scripts were common. The only brief exception to this was in the Moneymaker heyday, when everyone was rubbish, battling at absurd stakes for their skill level and rb and bonuses above 50% were commonplace.

Camping 5 at a table, with no hands being played until a rec joins is clearly a terrible look. Looks like teamplay / collusion. It's usually not, but that's what it looks like.

Sitting out when the rec sits out or busts, then sitting back in when they do is scummy af, and should be called out and reported every time. Urge others to do this. Possibly also tarred and feathered. Don't urge others to do that though.
If anyone thinks differently on this, please reply with a justification. Ideally one that isn't massively shortsighted or self interested. How hard is it to post a few BBs, really?

Ideally, none of these problems would exist, but given the state of the online poker landscape and the way it's (d)evolved over the years, it's somewhat inevitable I suppose. Lots more regs, way fewer recs etc etc.
Anglers gonna angle. If they can, they will. Then more follow.

The 3 main ways that spring to mind that might reduce these problems are:
1 - Hard-coded rule enforcement / table joining structure by software client to prevent these things happening in the first place.
2 - Policing by site itself. Something like a room manager in a B&M live game.
3 - Policing by players. Call out and report the consistent rule breakers and anglers. It's a hassle but...

Just my 2c, gl at the tables.

I'm not at fan of seat scripts, but they aren't mentioned as against the rules from what I've read. The other two issues are mentioned in their rules.

https://www.betonline.ag/rules#poker-rules


I guess the language below could be interpreted as against seating scripts. I'd prefer it if they made that clear though.


You're number 1 and 2 solutions would be fine by me. I already do number 3. The problem with the 2nd solution is that they don't do a good job of policing a lot of crap already going on that is against their rules. Monitoring poker cash game integrity doesn't seem to be high on their priority list.

I'm not sure who this is addressed to. I'd suggest doing this:

+1 the snap sit out after fish busts is the #1 worst move above all. feel like that type of person prob has terrible social skills.

I played the 60k main for the first time, and so many idiots on the table like they think they are playing freerolls, it was fun for the first 4 hours until the idiot snap called my KK all-in with J4s.

I requested a cash out on Monday morning. It says it is "Waiting Handler Authorization". Does that mean they've approved it? Or that it is still waiting to be approved. It has been about 32 hours.

What withdrawal method did you choose?

I sent them emails before and had no replies.
Today they finally sent an apology and promised to investigate the case.

Bitcoin withdrawal request Monday morning (8 am est) and received Tuesday evening around 7-8 pm. Wanted to update.