now everybody will play 7$ hyper sng, this is better?

hyper turbo's don't count towards sng leaderboard points

Only full 9 regular and turbo
and 6 regular and turbo

unless bol changed it

this is the correct: Only regular, fast and hyper 6-seater and 9-seater Sit 'n Go tournaments are included in the leaderboard

Now if they could just fix the rake to where hypers and turbos aren't raked the same as reg speeds..

I discovered 3 new bots accounts in the last day. 2 full ring and 1 more 6max. This brings the running total to 30 known bots between 25nl and 50nl. I'm pretty I know all of the 6max bots, but I've just started looking into some full ring games. If this is any indication of the other games I'd have to imagination there is likely over 100 botting accounts on the network between the MTTs, SNGs, PLO, and other stakes of NL.

If you're going to allow it, just be upfront about it. Don't put a rule in your Rules Section leading people to believe it's not allowed. Either allow everyone to do it or nobody.

If its ok with you, can i ask for the id # or the alias the bot use.

I'm not sure what you mean by ID#. If you would like the names of the bot accounts just send me a private message with your nickname on the network.

Typos

There is word going around that the rake increased. Can anyone confirm this with proof?

Kinda weird that they banned the last group of well known bot accounts after like a year of being outed and dozens of people complaining about them. It shows they CAN find and ban them, but they just don't WANT to, unless maybe the pressure just gets too high and they want to make a token gesture to make it seem like they care.

I mean, I seriously doubt there was any additional evidence between say the 4th month after the bots were outed and the 10th. To me it just shows that they easily could have banned them much earlier and either didn't care because they like the extra rake or are possibly in cahoots with them.

Which set of bots are you talking about? (And how do you know there are now some banned) (Do you have the post numbers, very hard to find time to read the whole thread)

Are the same names somewhere earlier in the thread for 1 up (double or nothings)

Since the reformat of the sit and go lobby names and buy ins, i haven't seen any of the obvious collusion groups on yet for 1 ups

If you're talking about sng's yes rake has been increased from 10% to a little over 11%.

There was a group of PLO bots that had been mentioned numerous times, Pinejuice, pimp, moneygrab, some of the other names escape me. They all disappeared at the same time, but then a new group popped up a couple weeks after, obviously the same group of botters. I can't speak to specifics regarding NLHE bc it's not my game, but they seemed to be saying that the same pattern occurred there with a lot of bots being banned, but new ones popping up soon after.

I thought I saw something odd on the SNG's rake and even the payout structure was changed. $108's use to be $420 up top. Now, the $109's have I believe around $380 for first. It's such a shame. This whole new SNG structure, removing most of the stakes and even the lousy Leaderboard they have now is absolutely terrible. They clearly just don't give a **** about us. SNG Grinders should seriously just completely boycott Chico's Network and see what changes they do next.

Chico's Network you're a disgrace by making these changes, upping the rake and NOT giving us any RAKE BACK!!! Really... great job, boys!!!

Hi mukinyul

Please note, that Hyper SNGS now earn points towards the leaderboards. This means you can earn points towards the leaderboard alot quicker by playing on the 6 handed hyper SNGs.

Regards
Tiffany

I would bet many of the bot accounts here now had prior accounts. I think it's as simple as bots equal more rake for them. Well if they like it so much they should remove the rule against them. Do it without telling anyone, but don't bs people into believing there are no bots and that you're vigilant about detecting and removing them because that is easy to prove as false. The network is infested with them.

I see new players regularly sitting down at a table heads-up with a bot because it stayed at a table by itself when the table broke and the new guy/gal wants some quick action. I constantly see the newbie get stacked rather quickly. I'm sure most, if not all of these players, have no idea they're playing against an automated decision making program. I doubt they would be happy if they knew the ugly truth.

Leaving the network overrun with bots when the rules say they're not allowed and support says they're not there while they rake in the dough from their presence is shady as ****. The simple fix if they want to keep their rake is to just remove the rule, but don't bs us about them not being there. I have two eyes and database of statistics that says you're full of ****!

Were you kidnapped for this entire last year?

Tiffany_martins

Can i make a suggestion and get rid of the hyper sngs for the leaderboard points.
The structure of hyper sng makes them more of an element of luck than a matter of skill just due to the quick blind structure or change the hypers to like 3 or 4 min blinds instead of 2 min blinds

Tiffany_martins

But you cant win leaderboard if you play normal or turbo sngs, just ONLY you play hypers, this is not fair.

You ****ed up mtt leaderboard with this stupid formula (players place/prizepool) and now ****ed up sng leaderboard

why not use old formula on mtt leaderboard?

@Tiffany Martins, are you an actual Chico site rep?

Look, I'm not into conspiracy theories, but over the past 3 months I have done corroborative investigation into player stats, their table tendencies and what not and I am 1,000% certain you have at least 20 REGULAR bot accounts at just the 10NL, 25NL and 50NL limits.

CHI believes it to be around 30 bots but I'm giving you a low estimate.

Can you please just end that now? They absolutely rape the recreational players at short handed tables because the bots never tilt, and never have to sit out from playing too many tables.

There are literally 3 bots at one table at a very high rate.

You literally have a full blown bot ring on the site and Chico apparently isn't doing anything about it.

We can provide you the proof if you want it.

Anyone having problems with the software freezing your computer at the launching stage? Has just happened to me twice forcing me to have to hard restart my computer

Working flawlessly on my end ldmariodl28.

Just a small update, after 1 day break, looks like the group with the L's swapped with I's is back the high stakes DoNs colluding again.

Only 3 of the regular 5 in there (There are like 8 accounts with these name types who interchange), but 2 other players in the game have total new accounts made within last 5 days (No L or I swap), and instantly crushing high ROI and in the same games as these guys.

Honestly have to assume they just have an easy enough way to make a new account and verify it, unless they are always getting stopped at cashout (but i highly doubt it - and do these funds then just get absorbed by the poker site itself? Isn't that just theft or blind eye theft if they allow colluders or bots to continue to run so easily)

SNG Traffic will probably die so much after these changes. Hopefully they don't have an incredibly stubborn person in charge and revert some (all) of them.

Still happening to me. Gonna try reinstalling the software

What other programs do you have open prior to launching the client? What do your resources look like in Task Manager as it opens?