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01-30-2012 , 05:26 PM
^^ Thanks for the heads up.
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01-30-2012 , 05:32 PM
Did anyone else just get a reload bonus? Apparently 25% max $100?
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01-30-2012 , 07:58 PM
I emailed Bovada again asking them to read my message about this issue, and this is what I got:

Dear Morphy our favorite person in the world,

Thanks for contacting Bovada Poker Customer Service.

We can absolutely answer your concerns about this situation. First of all, you can be sure that there is no way for anyone to access your personal information, we know about this and we have already taken the measures so no one can even check your username. If you check the video mention, you will noticed it was posted a couple of months ago, and we have already looked into this situation, and now we have informed again our Poker Security department about this situation.



Keep in mind that even if someone were to hack your email address and get a hold of your information, clients are required to have use password and answers our security question in order to access an account; therefore, we can guarantee that no one will be able to breach or have access to your account information..

Also you can check what our terms of conditions mention about this, below:

6.3. No Player Assistance Programs. Use by players of external player assistance programs ("EPA Programs") which are designed to provide players with an unfair advantage over their opponents are expressly prohibited. We define EPA Programs as including computer software and non-software-based databases or profiles (e.g., web sites and subscription services) and we consider access to or the ability to gather data or information on other players by any means that would not be accessible via their own first-hand experience (i.e. observation of game play) to be "unfair". We reserve the right to close Accounts and void any and all winnings in such Accounts if we establish, in our reasonable discretion, the use of an EPA Program.
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If you require any further information feel free to contact us at the number provided below.

Our Poker Customer Service Team is available by phone at 1-866-909-ACES (2237) and e-mail at poker@bovada.lv 24/7 to help if you need anything else.



Thanks,



Poker Customer Service



So basically they didn't read my email for the 2nd time and assumed I was talking about Kyle's youtube video. I once again told them that they didn't read my email or the 2+2 thread, but I doubt they'll reply since reading seems to be beyond them.

Morphy
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01-30-2012 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by trangers
Thanks for not paying taxes scumbag.

You know you dont have to know how to calculate ROI to pay taxes, right?
Anytime your welcome.

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Originally Posted by Gemaco
(a) Most of us do not pay anywhere near 30% unless your making over 250,000 I think. This applies to us poker players who file as professional gamblers. We simply net our winnings and pay taxes like normal citizens.

(b) I guess your implying you don't pay your taxes on your winnings, that's on you. In my opinion its not about getting caught its about what is right and wrong. The only moral thing to do is pay your taxes. But I guess that is easier if your filing as a professional gambler because i get to right off things like my trips to vegas, my gas miles to the casino, my new computers, etc. If your a casual player then I guess paying taxes is more of a hardship, I don't know.

(c) Regarding why regular sites don't catch cheaters. (1) They do, you just don't hear about all the money and accounts they confiscate because the people know they were cheating so they don't bother to make 2pl2 accounts to bitch about it - although some even do that. (2) Your never going to catch all the cheaters and colluders, that is just a poker (and life) fact. It is simply impossible. We just have to hope the penalties are severe enough to persuade people not to cheat but the risk will be too much. I think if someone gets charged with a felony over cheating it will help make people think twice about cheating. You have to kind of approach it like how the US Gov't approaches colluders in business, you catch the ones who do the most damage and hopefully it makes it unattractive to even consider colluding. Plus we need public pressure by the players to ought the cheaters. The poker economy, just like the regular one, would do better without cheaters. But the fact is there will always be cheaters no matter what.
Well from my experience, they take out 30% at the casino on all my cashes so i would figure the internet would be no different.

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Originally Posted by Green Power Ranger
Lol @ Georgebushda3rd. You seem like a guy that wouldn't pay his taxes. You might not pay tho cuz you just don't win so who knows. You're no better than the cheaters.
At the casino, I do pay I have no choice but online I don't play enough volume so no I don't pay taxes.
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
Well he did complain once that he lost $50 and he made a big deal about it, so I imagine he's never paid taxes on anything in his life.

Morphy
That a boy Mighty morphin!!

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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
I emailed Bovada again asking them to read my message about this issue, and this is what I got:

Dear Morphy our favorite person in the world,

Thanks for contacting Bovada Poker Customer Service.

We can absolutely answer your concerns about this situation. First of all, you can be sure that there is no way for anyone to access your personal information, we know about this and we have already taken the measures so no one can even check your username. If you check the video mention, you will noticed it was posted a couple of months ago, and we have already looked into this situation, and now we have informed again our Poker Security department about this situation.



Keep in mind that even if someone were to hack your email address and get a hold of your information, clients are required to have use password and answers our security question in order to access an account; therefore, we can guarantee that no one will be able to breach or have access to your account information..

Also you can check what our terms of conditions mention about this, below:

6.3. No Player Assistance Programs. Use by players of external player assistance programs ("EPA Programs") which are designed to provide players with an unfair advantage over their opponents are expressly prohibited. We define EPA Programs as including computer software and non-software-based databases or profiles (e.g., web sites and subscription services) and we consider access to or the ability to gather data or information on other players by any means that would not be accessible via their own first-hand experience (i.e. observation of game play) to be "unfair". We reserve the right to close Accounts and void any and all winnings in such Accounts if we establish, in our reasonable discretion, the use of an EPA Program.
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http://www.bovada.lv/help/terms-service

If you require any further information feel free to contact us at the number provided below.

Our Poker Customer Service Team is available by phone at 1-866-909-ACES (2237) and e-mail at poker@bovada.lv 24/7 to help if you need anything else.



Thanks,



Poker Customer Service



So basically they didn't read my email for the 2nd time and assumed I was talking about Kyle's youtube video. I once again told them that they didn't read my email or the 2+2 thread, but I doubt they'll reply since reading seems to be beyond them.

Morphy
LOL whats the matter you don't want to use your real name lol
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01-30-2012 , 09:51 PM
Caught some players colluding in a tournament today. Blinds 100/200 short stack has 231 and is BB, I'm utg+1 with 52 so I fold. It's folded to the SB who has 2519 and he folds. I give him the benefit of the doubt a misclick maybe. BB doubles the next hand. Few orbits later, the short stack has 692 and the blinds are now 150/300 ante 30. Stort stack is in the BB again and it's folded to the SB who has 2619. SB raised to 600, BB shoves 662 and is all in, SB waits 15 sec and folds. Me and another player say something about it and the short stack apologizes. Seem like the SB should have said something but not a word was typed from him. I reported the crap, just be on the look out for this type of BS folks.

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01-30-2012 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by djg1979
Caught some players colluding in a tournament today. Blinds 100/200 short stack has 231 and is BB, I'm utg+1 with 52 so I fold. It's folded to the SB who has 2519 and he folds. I give him the benefit of the doubt a misclick maybe. BB doubles the next hand. Few orbits later, the short stack has 692 and the blinds are now 150/300 ante 30. Stort stack is in the BB again and it's folded to the SB who has 2619. SB raised to 600, BB shoves 662 and is all in, SB waits 15 sec and folds. Me and another player say something about it and the short stack apologizes. Seem like the SB should have said something but not a word was typed from him. I reported the crap, just be on the look out for this type of BS folks.
I had that happen to me like 3 weeks ago, i feel ya.
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01-30-2012 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by djg1979
Caught some players colluding in a tournament today. Blinds 100/200 short stack has 231 and is BB, I'm utg+1 with 52 so I fold. It's folded to the SB who has 2519 and he folds. I give him the benefit of the doubt a misclick maybe. BB doubles the next hand. Few orbits later, the short stack has 692 and the blinds are now 150/300 ante 30. Stort stack is in the BB again and it's folded to the SB who has 2619. SB raised to 600, BB shoves 662 and is all in, SB waits 15 sec and folds. Me and another player say something about it and the short stack apologizes. Seem like the SB should have said something but not a word was typed from him. I reported the crap, just be on the look out for this type of BS folks.
yeah djg, i have seen a fair share of this. just as it was pre-anon, its a shame. all we can do is report it. gl
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01-30-2012 , 10:54 PM
there's also bugs in bovada like some players look like their cards are mucked (they are greyed out like your cards would be if you folded)
there is no preferred seat
if you try to rebuy and win money during that hand you won't ever be able to rebuy again on that table
settings don't save after you change them (filters, buy-in options)

a tilting experience overall
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01-30-2012 , 11:06 PM
Can someone please tell me/PM me which Visa gift cards I can use to deposit onto Bovada. I tried my Visa credit card but no such luck. Do appreciate it!

Thanks
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01-31-2012 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
Anytime your welcome.

Well from my experience, they take out 30% at the casino on all my cashes so i would figure the internet would be no different.
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That sounds really weird, I have never heard of that unless your not an American citizen - and they only do that to make sure you don't skip town with the money and never come back to the US.

(1) The casino should not be holding your taxes for you ... If you win over a certain amount you simply fill out a form that they send to the IRS to make sure it matches your tax return --> which it will if you pay your taxes.

(2) Even if the casino does hold 30% for some weird reason, that doesn't mean you won't ever see it again. If you send in too much $$ (which happens to me sometimes because I send in quarterly estimates) you get it back.


To be honest, this leads me to believe you are lieing. To compound that suspicion, I thought you don't pay your taxes? I also thought you don't give your SS# away, there is no way a casino would take 30% without also taking your SS#. Therefore, your story doesn't add up. Just admit you have never won enough to pay taxes on and stop making up stories that confuse people please.
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01-31-2012 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by djg1979
Check your tournament tickets, there are two 25K freerolls scheduled Wed. and Thur. for earning 50 points last week.
Thanks.
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01-31-2012 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by djg1979
Caught some players colluding in a tournament today. Blinds 100/200 short stack has 231 and is BB, I'm utg+1 with 52 so I fold. It's folded to the SB who has 2519 and he folds. I give him the benefit of the doubt a misclick maybe. BB doubles the next hand. Few orbits later, the short stack has 692 and the blinds are now 150/300 ante 30. Stort stack is in the BB again and it's folded to the SB who has 2619. SB raised to 600, BB shoves 662 and is all in, SB waits 15 sec and folds. Me and another player say something about it and the short stack apologizes. Seem like the SB should have said something but not a word was typed from him. I reported the crap, just be on the look out for this type of BS folks.
Is this a DON sng? If so, at what stake? Also, kindly let us know the result of the investigation. Thanks
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01-31-2012 , 12:51 AM
Is bovada still accepting players from the us? Kentucky to be specific. If so what are my options for depositing? Thanks
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01-31-2012 , 01:04 AM
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Is this a DON sng? If so, at what stake? Also, kindly let us know the result of the investigation. Thanks
Yes 20+1 Double up. I reported it to live chat, gave them the tournament number and hand numbers with a detail of what happened. I also posted the apology from one of the players. They won't be updating me on the situation for privacy reasons. Any competent security team will close both accounts with the info I provided, so hopefully those cheaters are banned. Just keep your eyes out for any cheaters. I've been playing a lot since the update and this is the first time I've seen collusion, hopefully the last.
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01-31-2012 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TanksFerNuttin
Is bovada still accepting players from the us? Kentucky to be specific. If so what are my options for depositing? Thanks
Yes they do, you can call CS or go to live chat for deposit options.
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01-31-2012 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by iopq
there's also bugs in bovada like some players look like their cards are mucked (they are greyed out like your cards would be if you folded)
there is no preferred seat
if you try to rebuy and win money during that hand you won't ever be able to rebuy again on that table
settings don't save after you change them (filters, buy-in options)

a tilting experience overall
This usually happens when you get disconnected.
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01-31-2012 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by teachervido
Can someone please tell me/PM me which Visa gift cards I can use to deposit onto Bovada. I tried my Visa credit card but no such luck. Do appreciate it!

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
That sounds really weird, I have never heard of that unless your not an American citizen - and they only do that to make sure you don't skip town with the money and never come back to the US.

(1) The casino should not be holding your taxes for you ... If you win over a certain amount you simply fill out a form that they send to the IRS to make sure it matches your tax return --> which it will if you pay your taxes.

(2) Even if the casino does hold 30% for some weird reason, that doesn't mean you won't ever see it again. If you send in too much $$ (which happens to me sometimes because I send in quarterly estimates) you get it back.


To be honest, this leads me to believe you are lieing. To compound that suspicion, I thought you don't pay your taxes? I also thought you don't give your SS# away, there is no way a casino would take 30% without also taking your SS#. Therefore, your story doesn't add up. Just admit you have never won enough to pay taxes on and stop making up stories that confuse people please.
Dam I gave you some respect because it seemed you make some pretty good posts but after this one I guess not... first off you said ur non us so how would you even know secondly yes casinos do take out tax it's the law and 3rdly I said I wouldn't give my SS# out to an online site!! Also learn how to spell!!
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01-31-2012 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
Also learn how to spell!!
I don't usually bother with this, but it can be especially annoying when someone with poor grammar and/or spelling posts something like that.

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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
Anytime your welcome.

Well from my experience, they take out 30% at the casino on all my cashes so i would figure the internet would be no different.


At the casino, I do pay I have no choice but online I don't play enough volume so no I don't pay taxes.
That a boy Mighty morphin!!

LOL whats the matter you don't want to use your real name lol
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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
Dam I gave you some respect because it seemed you make some pretty good posts but after this one I guess not... first off you said ur non us so how would you even know secondly yes casinos do take out tax it's the law and 3rdly I said I wouldn't give my SS# out to an online site!! Also learn how to spell!!
And there's plenty of missing punctuation.

I understand a lot of people can't be bothered/don't care to take the time to punctuate and capitalize properly, or look carefully at their spelling and grammar. But if that's how you post, don't call someone else out for spelling errors; it doesn't make you look particularly clever.
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01-31-2012 , 07:53 AM
Not sure if this happens to anyone else, i havent seen anyone mention it. If you rebuy for more than is allowed then the buy more chips button disappears completely and you cannot rebuy again until you bust or leave the table and come back. Wondering if anyone knows how to fix that without doing one of the 2 things i mentioned thanks
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01-31-2012 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shipurstack
Not sure if this happens to anyone else, i havent seen anyone mention it. If you rebuy for more than is allowed then the buy more chips button disappears completely and you cannot rebuy again until you bust or leave the table and come back. Wondering if anyone knows how to fix that without doing one of the 2 things i mentioned thanks
Yep happens to everyone. No fix afaik, besides only rebuying when you have folded or are about to.
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01-31-2012 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by djkelly69
Yep happens to everyone. No fix afaik, besides only rebuying when you have folded or are about to.
gotcha thanks, very tilting when you mess it up haha
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01-31-2012 , 12:00 PM
Anyone know what the abbreviations DS and SS mean for mtts? Thanks.
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01-31-2012 , 12:12 PM
Double stack (3000 chips) and super stack (5000 chips)
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01-31-2012 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
Dam I gave you some respect because it seemed you make some pretty good posts but after this one I guess not... first off you said ur non us so how would you even know secondly yes casinos do take out tax it's the law and 3rdly I said I wouldn't give my SS# out to an online site!! Also learn how to spell!!
(a) I don't proofread, this isn't for work or for school - this is a freaking internet forum for online poker.

(b) I am American, and I pay my taxes, and I am proud of both

(c) I have played at over 15 casinos throughout the US... in CT, in NJ, and in NV. Never once have I had the casino take taxes out for me. Every single time I simply filled out a forum, wired 100% of the money to my account and paid my taxes appropriately at the end of the year.

Has anyone else ever had a casino take 30% of their winnings? That sounds really shady to me. For one thing, why do they get to hold onto it and re-invest it ... its my right to keep that money until its due, if I win a tournament in March then I want to still earn interest off that money until April 15th (which is 13 months you could be using this money) before its due .. why would I let someone else earn the interest?
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01-31-2012 , 04:35 PM
bovada why cant you do synched breaks? everyone else does, and clearly your tournaments would benefit from it.
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