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01-26-2012 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by onesteptheface
Tons of people running bad in poker? No way!! Tons of people are running good since the update too. They are just not complaining about or questioning Bovada on poker forums.

Current winning players are not commiserating together in a thread about their simultaneous downswings. And that's all they are....Downswings. Variance.


The winning players are not really active in the rigged conspiracy threads.
Only the losing players are. Not saying you are one.

What if every players relatively small personal statistics were exactly the same from site to site and skin to skin from update to update? Wouldn't that be a tad bit eerie and weird too?

As a thinking poker player you HAVE to understand it can be just a coincidence.
LOL.

Dude read what's been written. These are similar type of bad beats happening at a high frequency. Stop being so dense.
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01-26-2012 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RipitSick
LOL.

Dude read what's been written. These are similar type of bad beats happening at a high frequency. Stop being so dense.
I know man it's crazy. One guy said he lost $50!!!

lolrigtards.

Morphy
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01-26-2012 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RipitSick
LOL.

Dude read what's been written. These are similar type of bad beats happening at a high frequency. Stop being so dense.
Hard to know what your are trying to say "dude". These are some of your previous statements itt which I have read:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=436
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=458
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=504

I'm saying it is NOT rigged. I don't know wtf your stance is on the subject. You're all over the place with your theories and your bs. One day you say you're a slight loser on this site. The next day you say the "50nl" games are very beatable". Then you say the client crashed 3 times on you during big pots in one session? LOL What happened to the pots in question????? Did the site crash for the other player too? Nah probably just you. LOL

Look "dude". On December 20 you said this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=504
Then in this post on December 29 you are cashing out thousands????:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=156

Yeah, I'm the dense one.

Cool stories bro.
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01-26-2012 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RipitSick
LOL.

Dude read what's been written. These are similar type of bad beats happening at a high frequency. Stop being so dense.
LOL

What's similar about the bad beats? What equals a "high frequency" for you?

You say you're cashing out thousands and you're still bitching about the site?

I look forward to your next posts itt. It is comical to see what your stance is from one hour to the next. You're all over the place. But one thing remains consistent. You're obviously fos.
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01-26-2012 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by onesteptheface
LOL

What's similar about the bad beats? What equals a "high frequency" for you?

You say you're cashing out thousands and you're still bitching about the site?

I look forward to your next posts itt. It is comical to see what your stance is from one hour to the next. You're all over the place. But one thing remains consistent. You're obviously fos.
My stance is the same. I'm not claiming it to be rigged LOL. Stop being so ****in dense jesus christ. For the record I'm not bitching about these coolers it's just something I noticed.... I bitch about the ****ty software and slow ass game play.

Similar bad beats as in flopping a set to having someone turn a better set. Or having your pocket pair turn a set to makes someones gutter straight.... that **** is a given every single session. And how the **** are pocket 33 constantly catching the 3 on the river LOLOL. I'm not the only one to see these "similar" type of bad beats.... these are straight up pot sweeteners. You'd have to be oblivious to the flops if you can't notice this.

I'm not claiming to be running bad neither. We've all ran bad. Its not unusual to lose 15-20 60/40 flips. It's not unusual to have your aces cracked 5 times in a row, the board running out to a flush against your top set, AK losing KJ for a week. Variance.... great I get what you're trying to get at. I'm not talking about this.

But to have these insane pot sweetening coolers happening repeatedly.... i'm just not gonna brush that off to "variance", sorry. Plus they don't let you use HUDs anymore..... makes you really wonder when you put 2 and 2 together......
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01-26-2012 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by onesteptheface
Hard to know what your are trying to say "dude". These are some of your previous statements itt which I have read:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=436
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=458
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=504

I'm saying it is NOT rigged. I don't know wtf your stance is on the subject. You're all over the place with your theories and your bs. One day you say you're a slight loser on this site. The next day you say the "50nl" games are very beatable". Then you say the client crashed 3 times on you during big pots in one session? LOL What happened to the pots in question????? Did the site crash for the other player too? Nah probably just you. LOL

Look "dude". On December 20 you said this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=504
Then in this post on December 29 you are cashing out thousands????:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=156

Yeah, I'm the dense one.

Cool stories bro.
Yea i was a slight loser right afrter the change happened. That was last month. I made the right adjustments and back to normal for the most part. Congrats on using the search feature. You're the best keyboard warrior to date. Props bro.....
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01-26-2012 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RipitSick
My stance is the same. I'm not claiming it to be rigged LOL. Stop being so ****in dense jesus christ. For the record I'm not bitching about these coolers it's just something I noticed.... I bitch about the ****ty software and slow ass game play.

Similar bad beats as in flopping a set to having someone turn a better set. Or having your pocket pair turn a set to makes someones gutter straight.... that **** is a given every single session. And how the **** are pocket 33 constantly catching the 3 on the river LOLOL. I'm not the only one to see these "similar" type of bad beats.... these are straight up pot sweeteners. You'd have to be oblivious to the flops if you can't notice this.

I'm not claiming to be running bad neither. We've all ran bad. Its not unusual to lose 15-20 60/40 flips. It's not unusual to have your aces cracked 5 times in a row, the board running out to a flush against your top set, AK losing KJ for a week. Variance.... great I get what you're trying to get at. I'm not talking about this.

But to have these insane pot sweetening coolers happening repeatedly.... i'm just not gonna brush that off to "variance", sorry. Plus they don't let you use HUDs anymore..... makes you really wonder when you put 2 and 2 together......
You say you don't think Bovada is rigged but you claim the frequency of "these insane pot sweetening coolers" is not variance?

Not rigged = Not rigged. You seem to think it is sort of rigged. LOL

These "insane pot sweetening coolers" that YOU claim Bovada has implemented in an effort to even the playing field can only be one thing or the other. It can't be rigged and not rigged at the same time, which is exactly what you are conveying itt. Your argument is based on your opinion and that's all you have. You have no facts. You have no HH. You offer no ev graphs. Even if you were to post your bad beats or your graphs,your sample size would be laughable. You're not even making a good argument. You have nothing except your obvious rigtard theories, however they are masked by your confusing lies and general allovertheplaceness itt.

Just admit you are a rigtard and post in that thread. Or start a new semirigged forum for people who are really out of their damn minds.

Last edited by onesteptheface; 01-26-2012 at 08:49 PM.
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01-26-2012 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
It is actually a quite generous policy. Some sites have it capped way below 3K and some charge a fee for every payout no matter what.

the fact that Bodog only raised it from $35 to $50 over the last year or so when the cost of giving this money to players has grown over 300% I think it is pretty good.

My guess is even with the $50 fee they are LOSSING money on the transaction for Americans. I have heard estimates that payment processors want 20-30% to do the transaction for Americans. If they passed all of this cost onto the customer the fee would be more around $60-90 for a 3K check.
20-30%? It would be $600-900 then..so ridic
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01-26-2012 , 09:01 PM
"rigged" debates aside.

They have lost traffic since the change which means less profit. Maybe the super-rigged blackjack is making up for the loss. If not, they need to change to better software which benefits us and them.

Im just bitter because the omaha SNGs never fill like they used to. Filling a $30-$50 used to take about 15 minutes...now you will sit there solo for hours. If I wanted to play with myself I could do that without bovada
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01-26-2012 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by onesteptheface
You say you don't think Bovada is rigged but you claim the frequency of "these insane pot sweetening coolers" is not variance?

Not rigged = Not rigged. You seem to think it is sort of rigged. LOL

These "insane pot sweetening coolers" that YOU claim Bovada has implemented in an effort to even the playing field can only be one thing or the other. It can't be rigged and not rigged at the same time, which is exactly what you are conveying itt. Your argument is based on your opinion and that's all you have. You have no facts. You have no HH. You offer no ev graphs. Even if you were to post your bad beats or your graphs,your sample size would be laughable. You're not even making a good argument. You have nothing except your obvious rigtard theories, however they are masked by your confusing lies and general allovertheplaceness itt.

Just admit you are a rigtard and post in that thread. Or start a new semirigged forum for people who are really out of their damn minds.
Dude are you serious with this post?

Wow i remember when I was 12 years old..... lmao.

I just explained to you what kind of beats are happening. Hi Welcome to earth. You keep repeating the same thing and over and over. Actually their not even bad beats lmao. A bad beat would be AK gets it in ahead of AQ... AQ wins. KK vs AA.... Kings win..... oh well tough luck. Rebuy and go at it again.

What is so hard for you to understand a god damn cooler hand. I have pocket 66..... raise pre.... 3 droolers call.

Flop is 464 turn 10 river 8. Dude has pocket 1010 to turn a better boat. That's called a cooler. I don't know what else you want me to explain.

I have 98 off. Flop is 5s6s2h. Turn is a 7d. I catch my gutter dude turns a set of 77 on a wet board... dude bets I check raise. Anyone folding here lololol. Pot sweetener.

What's even better is now you dont have HUDs and meta game. You have no idea how I play since I'm random bodonk. I can be doing this with nuts or a big combo draw who knows..... I just sat down at the table.

I've been on both ends of these so it's not rigged against me. By your definition of what I'm describing, its rigged to generate bigger pots in several spots. Are you ****in happy now???

Hey... can you tell me how I'm suppose to provide hand histories? They don't let you use a HUD. I can't copy and paste from the client neither. Welcome to earth.

You must be one of those super ultra poker pros who just loves to discredit anyone.....

Please provide proof that this is normal variance..... LOL.
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01-26-2012 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RipitSick
Dude are you serious with this post?

Wow i remember when I was 12 years old..... lmao.

I just explained to you what kind of beats are happening. Hi Welcome to earth. You keep repeating the same thing and over and over. Actually their not even bad beats lmao. A bad beat would be AK gets it in ahead of AQ... AQ wins. KK vs AA.... Kings win..... oh well tough luck. Rebuy and go at it again.

What is so hard for you to understand a god damn cooler hand. I have pocket 66..... raise pre.... 3 droolers call.

Flop is 464 turn 10 river 8. Dude has pocket 1010 to turn a better boat. That's called a cooler. I don't know what else you want me to explain.

I have 98 off. Flop is 5s6s2h. Turn is a 7d. I catch my gutter dude turns a set of 77 on a wet board... dude bets I check raise. Anyone folding here lololol. Pot sweetener.

I've been on both ends of these so it's not rigged against me. By your definition of what I'm describing, its rigged to generate bigger pots in several spots. Are you ****in happy now???

Hey... can you tell me how I'm suppose to provide hand histories? They don't let you use a HUD. I can't copy and paste from the client neither. Welcome to earth.

You must be one of those super ultra poker pros who just loves to discredit anyone.....

Please provide proof that this is normal variance..... LOL.
Yes you idiot, you can use a hud!!!! I'm not going to tell you how because with as much time as you spend trolling Bovada threads even YOU should be able to figure this out.

Of course recreational players are chasing and hitting gutshots and all low percentage draws for that matter. That is exactly what makes them recreational players. They are playing speculative hands and sometimes they hit. Over the long term they lose. Again this is variance dippy!! Your inability to comprehend this fact and to a greater degree your inability to capitalize on these recreational players weaknesses further confirms you are an idiot.

Before you question someones age, question why you are posting here.
It is because you are a frustrated losing player, correct? Otherwise, you are spending way too much time being a conspiracy theorist, when you should be playing the poker which you claim enables you to cash out thousands of dollars. LOL But we know that is not the case. You just lie. You are cashing out thousands from this site but can't locate a working hud? LOL


Again you say you are cashing out thousands of dollars from poker winnings yet you do not understand poker enough to beat the micros.

Yes, coolers happen dippy. They happen on all sites. But you are cashing out thousands, so you must be doing a higher percentage of the coolering right?

Oh, obviously not because you are bitching about getting coolered left and right instead of attributing it to the variance of your less than two month "career" at Bovada.

I'm done responding to you. Have a good day. And like I said before the rigtard thread is just a click away. You'll find many people who share your views there.

Last edited by onesteptheface; 01-26-2012 at 10:00 PM. Reason: Just noticed he wants proof of variance being normal in that hand he supplied
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01-26-2012 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RipitSick
My stance is the same. I'm not claiming it to be rigged LOL. Stop being so ****in dense jesus christ. For the record I'm not bitching about these coolers it's just something I noticed.... I bitch about the ****ty software and slow ass game play.

Similar bad beats as in flopping a set to having someone turn a better set. Or having your pocket pair turn a set to makes someones gutter straight.... that **** is a given every single session. And how the **** are pocket 33 constantly catching the 3 on the river LOLOL. I'm not the only one to see these "similar" type of bad beats.... these are straight up pot sweeteners. You'd have to be oblivious to the flops if you can't notice this.

I'm not claiming to be running bad neither. We've all ran bad. Its not unusual to lose 15-20 60/40 flips. It's not unusual to have your aces cracked 5 times in a row, the board running out to a flush against your top set, AK losing KJ for a week. Variance.... great I get what you're trying to get at. I'm not talking about this.

But to have these insane pot sweetening coolers happening repeatedly.... i'm just not gonna brush that off to "variance", sorry. Plus they don't let you use HUDs anymore..... makes you really wonder when you put 2 and 2 together......
You say you don't think it's rigged then you write 3 paragraphs about how it's rigged. From here you have 2 choices:

1) say you think it's rigged and gtfo
2) say you don't think it's rigged and stfu

It's that easy. Pick one.

Morphy
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01-26-2012 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
You say you don't think it's rigged then you write 3 paragraphs about how it's rigged. From here you have 2 choices:

1) say you think it's rigged and gtfo
2) say you don't think it's rigged and stfu

It's that easy. Pick one.

Morphy
Thank you sir.

He has issues.
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01-26-2012 , 10:02 PM
Looks like morphy and onestep are in cahoots with the site!
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01-26-2012 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonStylesTheActo
Looks like morphy and onestep are in cahoots with the site!
Oh dear lord let's not start this again. Simon says please visit this site:

www.shutupidiot.info

Morphy
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01-26-2012 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonStylesTheActo
Looks like morphy and onestep are in cahoots with the site!
Yes, I am obviously affiliated with the site. To think otherwise would be utterly insane.

The site is rigged and I am a shill. I am here to try to sway the public opinion of Bovada to a positive one.

The site pays me a fortune. I am very lucky.

You guys are good at spotting conspiracies!!

It the poker thing doesn't work out...... oh never mind, you will still look silly in those tin foil hats.
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01-26-2012 , 10:11 PM
I'm sure this has been said, but I rejoined bovada to get some more tourneys on my plate...and this software is friggin UNREAL BAD!!!!! You can't switch where you sit at the table, so multitablers can't even focus on one seat. There's a reason why you see tons of players at each table timing out several times, holding up gameplay. It's because of this reason! Allow us to customize where we sit. Secondly, I have animations on...shouldn't this mean everything is slower? I click or get called on all in and I barely have time to see the turn before the river is dealt. I can't even see what I win or lose against because the first four cards come out together...wtf?
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01-26-2012 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bef99hwk
I'm sure this has been said, but I rejoined bovada to get some more tourneys on my plate...and this software is friggin UNREAL BAD!!!!! You can't switch where you sit at the table, so multitablers can't even focus on one seat. There's a reason why you see tons of players at each table timing out several times, holding up gameplay. It's because of this reason! Allow us to customize where we sit. Secondly, I have animations on...shouldn't this mean everything is slower? I click or get called on all in and I barely have time to see the turn before the river is dealt. I can't even see what I win or lose against because the first four cards come out together...wtf?
The inability to have a "preferred seat" is ridiculous. They have to fix this.

In the past I had the delay where the board came out real fast after a long pause before or after the flop. Maybe lag only? I don't know. I uninstalled and reinstalled and haven't had any problems since. Reinstall or try a wired connection temporarily and see if that fixes so you can narrow it down to the poker client or your connection.
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01-26-2012 , 11:15 PM
I appreciate the mod letting these rigger comments stay under the special circumstances of bovada being kinda sketchy. After seeing these posts I no longer think the rng has been hacked or there are site bots.

The reason i wanted the opinions of bovada funny occurances in one place was because the rigged thread has too much other stuff on it to maintain a bovada specific discussion.

What I was looking for was multiple posters seeing calls from holdings with no real reason to do so and winning. I felt this was happening way too much. I was prolly just ul. I never questioned the RNG, just wether it was secure from hacks, or possibly house bots. I could see no other way a player would call allin with say... 10 high on the flop with no draws and hitting runners. These calls seemed to win every single time. Like 20 of them in all.

I see no real commonality with the postings. Thanks for letting it go on though none the less. Not that I would ever consider playing there again, but I feel less confident of there being house bots/hackers on the site.
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01-26-2012 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SimonStylesTheActo
are these poker points worthless or what?
They are only worthless since you cant convert them into cash anymore...but still they help you buy-in to tourneys.

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Why do you post the same question/comment twice? It's already been addressed that you need to not have money in play that is supposed to be cashed out. Is it really that difficult to understand?

What is weird about their policy?
Gee would you expect anything else from denseheads? It's the same people crying and bitching about sites being rigged or their a poor player!

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Originally Posted by QuantumGhost
I'm wondering if the bias toward bad beats isn't primarily due to poor players going to the river no matter how hard you bet. Cannot tell you the number of times I held AK and lost to A3 with a three on the river. What kind of moron calls a push with A3? Just hoping it evens out. Perhaps in a parallel poker universe.

i
Prolly about 85 percent of the rec players on Bodog(vada).
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I crush on this site like no place I have ever played. With that said the times I see kings run into aces or flopped set getting Rivered by a higher set is getting pretty hard to ignore. Once regulation happens I will stop playing on this bovada even though it's free money every month, just because something is not right with this site.
Wow i wish i can get set over set and aces over kings all the time, it's funny that I hardly see AA v KK ATM I prolly see more sets than anything else.

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Originally Posted by onesteptheface
Thank you sir.

He has issues.
Good ole Morphy at it again huh pissing off the customers.

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Originally Posted by bef99hwk
I'm sure this has been said, but I rejoined bovada to get some more tourneys on my plate...and this software is friggin UNREAL BAD!!!!! You can't switch where you sit at the table, so multitablers can't even focus on one seat. There's a reason why you see tons of players at each table timing out several times, holding up gameplay. It's because of this reason! Allow us to customize where we sit. Secondly, I have animations on...shouldn't this mean everything is slower? I click or get called on all in and I barely have time to see the turn before the river is dealt. I can't even see what I win or lose against because the first four cards come out together...wtf?
I agree with half of what you say but actually the software is no different then most sites, I actually don't lag anymore since the updates, but yea they need to still fix a few things.
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01-26-2012 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackFr1day
If you're convinced it's rigged then play on another site - if not shut the **** up IMO
This please. If you think bad beats happen more frequently than usual, you think it is rigged.
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01-26-2012 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by georgebushda3rd
Good ole Morphy at it again huh pissing off the customers.
You know, it's great that you figured out how to multiquote, but now you need to go back and learn that thing called reading comprehension.

Morphy
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01-26-2012 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by XaQ Morphy
You know, it's great that you figured out how to multiquote, but now you need to go back and learn that thing called reading comprehension.

Morphy
I can't make everyone happy Mighty Morphin..... but I now know that you troll this thread all day long!!
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01-27-2012 , 03:37 AM
Your final tables and the RNG associated with them are ridiculous! You don't let anyone bust! I don't know why you think it's funny to take a good/ok'd structured tourney, and just rip it apart at the FT? This guy got 5 miracles before the 7th place person even busted! That's not including the other 3 levels played between 9th and 7th!!!! And stacks became hella short! I wasn't even involved in a lot of these hands, but good god. 4th FT in 2 days (brag I know), and it's the same thing over and over. A guy can have 3 outs, bink the flop, and resucked on river by another 3 outer? Keep the tourneys decent structured and let ppl bust so the tourneys actually have play/skill left
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01-27-2012 , 04:39 AM
Wow, i have been lurking here for a while now and the drama here is so juicy.

Let me start off by saying Bovada is a completely rigged site, it is flat out a scam.


Naw really I deposited there 3 days ago and have been steadily on the up.
The anonymous feature is exploitable as someone in this thread stated, as you can just nit as the micros as I have been doing then leave and rejoin, lather, rinse, repeat. But shhhh I didn't say that. Wait no I mean it's rigged go all in pre-flop with your A2 you will win every hand.

And for the record that one stoopid guy got stomped. He is a dummy, winning player or not. Some donkeys can still win at pokards.
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