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03-19-2019 , 04:03 PM
4pm est and the site is lagging so bad its unplayable.
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03-19-2019 , 04:13 PM
same for me, just had to quit
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03-19-2019 , 04:15 PM
Yeah me too
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03-19-2019 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ConcernedPokerCtzn
I hate to post this guys because it will appear like a bitter post from a losing player... but I feel like you can take this info and make your own decisions...I'm pretty certain Ignition does not offer a fair gaming environment. I have seen multiple posts about possible super users and I have to agree based on my recent experience. Prior to about August/September of '18, I consistently beat PLO at all buyin levels including 10-20. I have been playing for 12+ years and although by no means the best, I hold my own in any PLO ring game and even took a couple shots at 200-400 back in the day on FT. Fast forward to March 2019, and any small win has been immediately wiped out on follow-up sessions or during the session. I understand the huge variance with PLO but even the worst play will yield a win every now and then. I have witnessed players folding over and over and then deciding to play complete garbage OOP in three and four bet pots(and of course winning these pots)...hmmm, almost like they know something...I have seen complete nonsensical betting patterns. I have no proof yet but my spidey senses are going nuts...I wish I had realized this earlier and saved many thousands of dollars...my only guess is I was marked as a player that withdrew too often...as I said I consistently won for 18 months prior. I have dropped in stakes down to plo 100 and yet still the same result...can't win...not one session...is it mathematically possible for these results? yes, but statistically improbable...I have more damning info but will hold it for now...my goal will be to obtain my hand histories to provide evidence...if you choose to continue playing, pay attention to the players who show up and win with garbage even though they fold many hands, and just pay attention to the play in general...they are not doing a very good job of being discreet.

You say you have "no proof" and your spidey senses are going nuts and then you say "you have more damning info". Your goal will be to obtain your hand histories? Shouldn't you already have a bunch from AUG/SEP of last year and the 18 months prior to that? Im sure a player who has played as high as you have and won for as long as you have has some sort of software that you have HH's stored in. If so did you look at the hands/spots the players were folding in before they decided to play trash in big pots and win? I don't totally discount what you are saying but howbout some graphs and HH's to back up what you're saying about yourself and the opponents you say are cheating. Also have you reported any of this to ignition?
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03-19-2019 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLNITSGOBROKE
You say you have "no proof" but your spidey senses are going nuts and then you say "you have more damning info". Your goal will be to obtain your hand histories? Shouldn't you already have a bunch from AUG/SEP of last year and the 18 months prior to that? Im sure a player who has played as high as you have and won for as long as you have has some sort of software that you have HH's stored in. If so did you look at the hands/spots the players were folding in before they decided to play trash in big pots and win? I don't totally discount what you are saying but howbout some graphs and HH's to back up what you're saying about yourself and the opponents you say are cheating. Also have you reported any of this to ignition?
Before I report it to Ignition, I plan on reporting Russian collusion to the Trump administration....oh wait, they already know because they're the ones doing it...

I don't have HH loaded, I'm old school and have never used any software managers/etc...hence it being solely spidey senses and observing other posts on here suspecting the same thing.

The other strange evidence I have would identify me to them and I don't want that right now. It involves a strange email I received from the site...stay tuned...
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03-19-2019 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ConcernedPokerCtzn
The other strange evidence I have would identify me to them and I don't want that right now. It involves a strange email I received from the site...stay tuned...
Yes, we'll all stay tuned for you to post some actual evidence in a new thread, or your anecdotes in the rigged thread. This thread is the home for neither.
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03-19-2019 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yes, we'll all stay tuned for you to post some actual evidence in a new thread, or your anecdotes in the rigged thread. This thread is the home for neither.
There goes Bobo ruining everything again....
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03-20-2019 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
its bad , zone 5nl is unbeatable. reg tables are still 5% but i forget the cap. games are soft so its whatever. i dont think any site is good for micro rake , just move up asap
online poker in general is unbeatable and anybody who tells themselves differently is delusional or just running good even if 500k hands just that 1/million
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03-20-2019 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
online poker in general is unbeatable and anybody who tells themselves differently is delusional or just running good even if 500k hands just that 1/million
do you get super used at low stakes too? I hear it's a growing problem at penny stakes
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03-20-2019 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
online poker in general is unbeatable and anybody who tells themselves differently is delusional or just running good even if 500k hands just that 1/million
Given the large rake, if a person even has a smidgen of a positive win rate after 500k consecutive hands I doubt that 1 in a million people could just play lucky here and pull it off. But even if you're right, you're missing an important component; what's the person's win rate after 500k hands? If it's 5bb/100 then you absolutely must be way off in your BS analysis. Maybe you could luck into that 1 in 10 to the 20th power of times, but all that's irrelevant.
There are plenty of people recorded on independent tracking software who are beating the games for a decent win rate and have greater than 500k recorded hands.
The higher your win rate the more confidence you have in skill and beatability of the game. If you have a 30bb/100 win rate after 3000 hands, you can be confident of your skill. If you have a 5bb/100 win rate after 120,000 hands, you can be confident of your skill.

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03-20-2019 , 07:19 AM
Lilu was trolling guys
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03-20-2019 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
online poker in general is unbeatable and anybody who tells themselves differently is delusional or just running good even if 500k hands just that 1/million
i've heard that in live poker you can expect to never have a losing month and avg winrates are ~30bb/100
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03-20-2019 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Nit games are actually easier to win for me it's just boring as hell and often not worth it with the rake here.

At least with nit games you don't get rivered so often or wonder for a second if you really should hero call some big bet. Also they don't drive you crazy when you don't run well, losing money to them is just b/c you're bad.

Tournaments have been wild though, all of them are basically just like playing freerolls (I presume this isn't true for 100+ but anything micro is nothing but huge donks all of them. Gl getting that many hands to win at the end though jeez.

There is absolutely no way nitty games are more profitable than loose wild games. Lower variance maybe. As the adage goes, “move up where they respect your raises”
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03-20-2019 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilu7
online poker in general is unbeatable and anybody who tells themselves differently is delusional or just running good even if 500k hands just that 1/million
if you are trolling , 5nl zone is unbeatable at around 10.7 BB per hundo rake. with a relatively tight preflop strat. on the other hand i was playing 5nl reg tables , already at 10nl should be me moving up here shortly. ( also i do think there is bots that are either bovadas or just random in the zone pool based on the playing style of 5nl zone that differs from reg tables. ( i had a thread were i was losing my mind about it, and then did the math) ( im lazy ).
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03-20-2019 , 07:30 PM
5nl zone is very beatable even with high rake. Stop with the lies.
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03-21-2019 , 01:11 AM
hey guys, new-ish to anonymous tables, was wondering if any of you guys try to identify specific other regulars (bad players that play a lot as well as grinders) at your tables and adjust accordingly or play against everyone on a session basis
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03-21-2019 , 05:17 AM
I just got kicked off all my tables? Is there is software update or server maintenance going on?
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03-21-2019 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by UofOalum2002
I just got kicked off all my tables? Is there is software update or server maintenance going on?
Nope, they keep doing this crap for no reason.

With little to no warning.

Just happened to me, too.

So tilting.
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03-21-2019 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
Nope, they keep doing this crap for no reason.

With little to no warning.

Just happened to me, too.

So tilting.
Wow really? This wasn't for scheduled maintenance? How long is it normally down for and have they given reasons to why it happens?
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03-21-2019 , 05:26 AM
Just got kicked off all 4 tables because "the server I was on is about to be shutting down Please choose another from the lobby"

Then I look at lobby and only stakes available are 5$ NL and 2000$ NL uh....
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03-21-2019 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JERRYJ0NES
5nl zone is very beatable even with high rake. Stop with the lies.
https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S...ers/JerryJones

Idk know if i believe you man . lol. maybe you should just learn to beat any game at all.
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03-21-2019 , 05:33 AM
kicked aswell.
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03-21-2019 , 09:45 AM
they generally always do server maintenance between 2am-4am EST on tues/weds, it's basically never announced
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03-21-2019 , 01:49 PM
Can someone tell me about Ignition RNG and continuous shuffle? All I want to know is would the cards on the flop be the same if I had called instead of folded preflop or could they be completely different based on my action?
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03-21-2019 , 01:55 PM
i've been curious about this as well and am under the impression that full tilt was the only site that actually did a continuous shuffle, but i could be wrong
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