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02-22-2019 , 09:01 AM
can someone clarify the cashback on losses for ignition casino? how often does it get distributed and is it total losses or accumulative
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02-22-2019 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by barney big nuts
Take your own advice you miserable little d ouche
Lol rigtards unite!
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02-22-2019 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt

Thinking about it further, the guy seems to play more like he knows what's coming, rather than what you have.
If he really knew what cards were coming (or any other superuser feature), would he really be playing 15/30 LHE and resorting to cheap buy-in angle tactics? Why not just play the highest stakes NL or PLO that regularly run and crush there?

That said, it can't hurt to report it to Bovada since like you said superusing is not unprecedented in online poker.
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02-22-2019 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by likewoah
Depositing on Ignition has been impossible. BoA account wouldn't work so I bought a Netspend and got it verified, however it still won't work. Called Netspend and they said no transaction was attempted; I then tried to use it on Global and it worked fine.

I have spoken to support 8-10 times (live chat, e-mail, and phone) and they all tell me the problem is on my banks end, which is completely false because the payments are never even attemped. I am ready to give up unless anybody can give me any advice as to what may work? Should I try on the other skins or would I be wasting my time?
My Visa used to work and stopped working there also. There are other ignition skins?

My advice is Bitcoin. A site like coinbase is very easy to get up and running with a Visa or a bank account and though there are fees they are even slightly cheaper than depositing straight to ignition by CC.
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02-22-2019 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Spin2Win
If he really knew what cards were coming (or any other superuser feature), would he really be playing 15/30 LHE and resorting to cheap buy-in angle tactics? Why not just play the highest stakes NL or PLO that regularly run and crush there?

That said, it can't hurt to report it to Bovada since like you said superusing is not unprecedented in online poker.
Actually, you can crush limit holdem at 15/30 and 30/60 if you are a superuser. For a lot of money.

And you'll stay mostly under the radar. As you've seen, not one person has commented about my accusations, either in support or refute. Limit holdem just isn't played that much by online pros anymore.

The buy-in angle is smart. It entices pros to play you who otherwise avoid other regulars there.

At the limit holdem games, if people sit in with either the min-buying (10 BB) or a standard 40 BB buyin, it is assumed they're probably a pro and nobody plays a single hand.

If someone sits in with a weird amount like $893.27, it's assumed to be a fish with his entire roll, until proven otherwise.

So if you have some kind of unfair edge and want to entice pros to play you (or if you're just really good heads up and want any action), this is exactly what you should do.
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02-22-2019 , 02:25 PM
Yes it’s a common buyin tactic for over a decade now I’ve seen it a ton and even used it myself. I more meant that a super user wouldn’t need to bother with it since they already have a huge edge but I guess that’s not really a valid point you’re right.

NL and PLO run much more often at higher stakes and are much easier to cheat at knowing cards so I don’t see why he’d wait at an empty 15/30 table for hours on end. But I guess LHE could be easier to stay under the radar and avoid detection
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02-22-2019 , 03:03 PM
Can we get some hand histories that you find especially strange?
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02-22-2019 , 03:15 PM
I still don't get why he doesn't just report it. As if the consensus of a forum that Bovada doesn't even monitor will make a difference.
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02-22-2019 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
I still don't get why he doesn't just report it

+1 nothing bad can come to him of reporting it, but if his suspicions are valid alot more can

Last edited by ALLNITSGOBROKE; 02-22-2019 at 04:42 PM.
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02-22-2019 , 04:58 PM
I reported a hand a week ago via live chat and it took an eternity for them to realize the hand wasn't in a tournament but a cash game hand. Even gave them the hand #, time stamp, among other things. Nothing came of it, but I'd still recommend sending in any hands you're suspicious of, because I think there's been reports in this thread of people getting compensated for collusion. Can't hurt.
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02-22-2019 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hoopaloopa
In case anyone is wondering, Ignition no longer has their RNG audited.
wouldn't this be true of Bovada/Bodog/Bodog88 as well?... source?
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02-22-2019 , 05:10 PM
I find it interesting that one of the most experienced poker players in the world is reporting this. I laughed at first then saw that it was you posting.

In my opinion there is an issue with a particular HUHU limit holdem player named BEATER

This was from 10 years ago when screen names were not anonymous.

He had a LHE table ratings graph which suggested a security leak.

Keep us updated, would love to see a hand history or more thoughts of yours on this situation and good to see you are being real cool-headed about this.
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02-22-2019 , 06:27 PM
How do you guys even trust this site??? LOL
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02-22-2019 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
How do you guys even trust this site??? LOL
We don't, dumbass. Welcome to 2011.
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02-22-2019 , 07:22 PM
It's Anonymous, It doesn't make sense to super use LHE when no one can track you at NLHE where you get more action/make more money anyway. Second reason it doesn't make sense is because it is likely much more obvious to catch someone super using at LHE than NLHE where the player pool is much smaller.
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02-22-2019 , 09:36 PM
One of the most experienced poker pros of the past decade has suggested a rig.

I want to go with this.

I think you are wrong but I hope you are right.
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02-22-2019 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
It's Anonymous, It doesn't make sense to super use LHE when no one can track you at NLHE where you get more action/make more money anyway. Second reason it doesn't make sense is because it is likely much more obvious to catch someone super using at LHE than NLHE where the player pool is much smaller.
I agree.

Whether it's LHE or NLHE, surely an honest site these days would itself have methods and statistics that would highlight a single big outlier in terms of the average amount won per hand played as against all other players' average winnings per hand, and do something about it? I find it difficult to believe they would need their attention drawn to it by another player, if they are honest and would react if they received such a report from another player.
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02-22-2019 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by laeblas
can someone clarify the cashback on losses for ignition casino? how often does it get distributed and is it total losses or accumulative
i believe its total losses over X period of time but it doesnt get paid out unless you have <$10 in your account...gives the degens a shot to run it back up before they deposit again
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02-23-2019 , 06:20 AM
You used 'honest' twice in the same paragraph.

Are you sure?

Think bout it.

The player suggesting a rig is a stronger player than you and you know that's true.

A security leak in any format is a license to print money.
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02-23-2019 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WSPreadHead
wouldn't this be true of Bovada/Bodog/Bodog88 as well?... source?
True. I saw the source about 6 months ago; it had something to do with their gaming license expiring, and wouldn't be renewing. This gaming license is who governed and made sure they audited their RNG.

Anyways, I'll dig and do my best to find it.

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02-23-2019 , 08:36 AM
My opponents are far too occupied with the task of losing money to pay attention to their super user monitors.
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02-23-2019 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by yukoncpa
My opponents are far too occupied with the task of losing money to pay attention to their super user monitors.
Lol yeah pretty much. Last night at 500nl zone I three barreled all in after raising pre with kk. Board was q7759 the guy c/c me down the whole way with ak.

For anyone who does not play because of whatever just know the games are like party poker circa 2006 for reference
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02-23-2019 , 09:05 AM
hi guys hope you can help me , im trying to find a chart like this
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/rake/

but for bodog.com , there is a link in google but its broken
can anyone help me please , tried talking with support but they sent me the broken link too
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02-23-2019 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AgressiveDog
hi guys hope you can help me , im trying to find a chart like this
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/rake/

but for bodog.com , there is a link in google but its broken
can anyone help me please , tried talking with support but they sent me the broken link too
This isn't exactly what you're looking for but here is my personal rake as measured in BB/100 (not percentage) charged to me
Ignition Total hands/ $USD Rake/ Rake in bb/100. The zone games were raked less because I play much tighter
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200NL 44107 5333.31 6.05 bb/100 rake
200nl Fast 1521 138.92 4.57
100nl 52477 3958.23 7.54
50nl 6311 272.23 8.63
50nl Fast 91206 3304.05 7.25
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02-23-2019 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
Lol yeah pretty much. Last night at 500nl zone I three barreled all in after raising pre with kk. Board was q7759 the guy c/c me down the whole way with ak.



For anyone who does not play because of whatever just know the games are like party poker circa 2006 for reference


Really? I’m playing zone .10/.25 and .25/.50 and the games there aren’t remotely as good as the micro stakes were on party circa 2006. That hh you used as an example isn’t even that bad calling down with nut no pair in 3b pot on safe paired board isn’t the worst play it’s not as if he open shoved 150bb pre with 25 off suit or something
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