To be clear, are we talking about this "ace poker solutions" as the HH converter? That's the first thing that pops up in google.

Yep

I beg to differ, as depositing via BTC was pretty darn simple and you didn't have to leave your house. You may be correct that a more significant exodus already occurred, but I think this will have more of a negative impact than you're realizing.

Thank you. I'm gonna look into this for sure as (previously stated) I tire of updating my spreadsheet during my sessions and there are other auto generated stats I'm interested in.

If I have any questions setting this up hopefully it's cool if I can shoot you a PM.

Yea i used excel at 1 point, its time consuming. You can pm if you are having trouble. Heres the 2+2 support thread they have
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...tware-1284170/

I can't definitively say you're wrong in terms of impact on rec deposits. Indeed, banks seem to be trending toward what you referenced.

The unknown (and most important) factor is what percentage of existing rec players actually use crypto as their primary means of depositing.

In my mind, the very definition of a recreational player is one who seeks recreational fun at the least amount of effort. The ~5% CC/DC fee to deposit is a "fun premium" they don't terribly mind paying.

It pales in comparison to learning, being comfortable with, and actually executing the setup of crypto purchasing on an exchange .. followed by setting up an intermediary crypto wallet on their way to making a total of THREE transactions just to deposit via BTC (initial buy > wallet > site). It's the most anti-recreational process possible.

Even if there is some easier method of depositing via BTC that I'm not aware of, it's still going to be a confusing logistical nightmare that most rec players won't have a lot of interest in as long as there's an easier way.

Last I knew, depositing via CC/DC was still an option? Not sure why anyone would have to leave their house to do so... I mean, that's always been a big draw of online gaming.

Rec players - by definition - just want to get their money on so they can start gambling. They'll take the path of least resistance to do so every time.

Anyone having problems with loading Bovadas newest update, Im getting a error that says temporary error.

....and bovada.lv is down.

no but i ahve in the past no reason there should be any problems.

I could see merit to what you're saying if this wasn't a site for US players. When I was first depositing a few months ago, Ignition customer service said that most DC/CCs were no longer working, plus there are highly touted promo codes for bitcoin that I think will lure in rec players. But if indeed you can use a US credit card to deposit, then I agree this won't affect rec traffic.

Im sure calling rec players fish isn't gonna help the cause.

First off, most rec players are indeed fish. Second of all, this is 2+2 - since when was it a "safe space" for rec players?

Just checking - can I still use the term OMC here, or will your grandpa get too upset?

Calling them "recs" isnt much better. Either way you are still labling them losers lol.

Just making sure - can I call them recs if I'm alone in my house, or is the risk of one of them somehow hearing me too great? Or what if I'm on a hike somewhere in the woods and I'm pretty sure no one else is around - how about then? Please advise.

You can call me good. You can call me Saint. You can even call me rec. But you doesn't have to call me late for dinner.

You only play DONs right? I'd call you a rec then.

And no that's the beauty of it rec doesn't mean or imply losing player it means what it means a recreational player.

Anyone else's tables failing to load and stuck at 44% every time?

And people wonder why the sites hate poker players. Try using some common sense dip**** and try and have a little class because without these losing players your sorry ass would be working some ****ty 9-5

Just a bit of FYI - credit cards will indeed be restricted from buying cryptos as per a new rule, however it does not affect debit cards, ACH, or bankwire. Just actual credit. So this may not be as big a problem as feared.

Down for me. Tables won't finish loading.

Yeah, some tables will load for me, and some will get stuck at 44% or 50%. I guess I'm done registering for the night. I also expect to have to relentlessly harass them to get refunded

It is a problem if you don't want to wait a week for your buy to clear. And something tells me most - gasp - recs would prefer to be able to play right away rather than waiting, or might just take up a new hobby or head back to the casino.

Stupid assumptions in a stupid post. For your information, I have a six figure day job. I'm just a winning online player in my free time too - one who is concerned when I see things happening that are more likely to thin the ranks of lousy players, and figured that posting about barriers to depositing would be of interest to people, not ever thinking for a minute that snowflakes like you would get all up in arms about me using terms like rec and fish, which, for the record, I think are the most appropriate terms.

Im not saying you're wrong about what you posted in fact I agree I just think calling rec players fish is bad for the game.
Good to know you have a 6 figure day job it needed to be mentioned lol.

i wish i had a six figure a day job