can we please stop pretending your wife actually played on Bovada. you are playing one account (leaving the other one dormant) until an email bonus offer comes to entice you to switch accounts. All the while, you spam referral links. pretty easy read here, mate

good riddance. maybe you'll have better luck scamming WPN

What purpose does it serve for you to make multiple accusations with zero knowledge and call it fact? Who behaves like that? I just don't understand the aggression.

+1 Been with them for about 10 years and couldn't agree more.

this site has become a twilight zone for me, lately i cant get out of the gates in any MTT ive played but Im killing ZOne and i dont even play cash . I will admit zone makes reg ring games seem so slow. I tried to sit at a reg cash table and was like screw this. I wish all sites would adopt ZOne like poker

I wonder if that happened to the guy I reported a few weeks ago for spamming another sites affiliate link

Every single instance of someone claiming to be have their funds seized on Bovada/Bodog it turns out its because they were running sometime of scam, colluding, or abusing something they knew was wrong. I have never heard of one legitimate person who had their funds confiscated from this site. I don't think they even do it that often, people rarely come into this thread and say that and when they do its just like this guy ... admitting what he was doing was wrong and is now upset he was caught.

A 2nd point: This is AGAIN another reason why I say NEVER give out your referral code. Why you would ever want your account linked to a strangers I will never know. Taking a lot of risk for a stupid $100. I mean if your bank said "give this referral out and you get $100 for everyone who opens a checking account ... however, if that person ever screws us you will be held responsible and you entire checking account balance may be seized" - how many of you would do that?

Scared money don't make no money - Waka Flocka

Pretty big red flag

If you don't want to talk about it why did you post about it?

You shouldn't be even slightly surprised, because what you described was spamming and suggesting bonus abuse. If there's more to the story, feel free to tell it. If you don't want to for whatever reason, that's fine, but don't then expect us to know it wasn't spam.

dude this you expect any different from this site, the mods perk in to say they are glad it happened to you (just like every other time this happens, they go with side of the site and not the people coming to their site) and then everyone jumps on the pile.

**** NO IT AINT COOL WHAT THEY DID and another example of people supporting corporations over people.

I expect you and everyone to have any kind of evidence or fact before calling me a spammer/anything else, because who the **** just lobs accusations with no knowledge and acts like it's normal. Refusing to submit the details to you jackals seems completely valid considering you've already labeled me. I simply answered a question asked in the thread about the trustworthiness of a site that stole hundreds of dollars from us.

If you don't like it my post or my story, sorry that you're so easily agitated.

People generally side with the sites because time and time again it has turned out that the site is right MUCH more often than the person complaining. There have clearly been times when players or right, but the overwhelming majority of the time, it's the player that turns out to be in the wrong.

If the site has absolutely intentions of changing (which they don't) then what is the point of the poll? They are well aware that there are a lot of people that don't enjoy playing on anonymous tables, and they are perfectly fine with that.

and what evidence have you provided to support your claim(s)? how about a full copy/paste of the e-mails between you and Bovada regarding this incident?

the reason so many people are siding with Bovada is because you've failed to give experiened 2+2ers ANY reason(s) to believe your telling the full story; much less giving us the complete truth.

as many others have said, the overwhelming majority of these sort of situations are people who are 100% in the wrong, or at best, upset that they've lost a bunch of "legitimate" moneys along with the ill-gotten gains....if I'm reading you correctly, you have basically come in here with the hope that people would turn a blind eye to your shady dealings on the premise that Bovada should of just given you a slap on the wrist and allowed you to continue playing.

as an example of your flawed logic....lets say I'm a cop who works hard to legitimately earn a paycheck each month....BUT on the side, I steal money and valuables from some of the drug dealers/crminals I catch on the street. now tell me, how stupid would it be to expect to keep my job and paycheck if/when I get caught for the shady stuff...even if by some amazing coincidence this was the first time I did it and I had never actually benefited financially from doing so.

What shady dealings, the assumed ones? Your phrasing is ridiculous, you have no information.

You are not reading it correctly. I didn't come in here to get my situation resolved or with hope of anything happening. I answered a question asked about the safety of funds on Bovada. Believe whatever you wish, as can the adult that I responded to initially. Prejudice in these matters seems the norm, shrug, ok.

i know at this point you are just trying to be difficult and obtuse....but obviously I'm talking about you're admission that you deliberately tried to abuse the bonus/referral system and even used Bovada's own chat boxes to solicit the referrals.

and yes, obviously I am reading you correctly because, well, its what I do. meanwhile you're making the big bucks gaming the refer-a-friend bonus. what a boss

Oh god no. I wish the $30s were 9-max :P

Are you the one that's been stealing all my profit as of late?

PoliceState, you can actually get some help here if you want it, but that's up to you. If you don't, that's fine too, but expect the continued comments if you don't let it go.

Is this money they took actual money you deposited or did they just take back the bonus money from the referrals?

This is so far from reality I don't even..

I'm not looking for help, I simply answered a question lol. But you're right, I'm feeding the trolls by not letting their assumptions be fact. Have at it, Bovada appears to be very safe for the majority of players, it certainly wasn't for me.

This whole exchange is just getting odder and odder to me. Perhaps we're using language in a different way. Here's what you posted:

That sure sounds like spam and encouraging bonus abuse. Your post is my "evidence", but as I said at the time, perhaps there's something more we don't know. But "posted" would typically mean on some kind of site or forum, and that would usually be spam. And telling people to deposit and withdraw without play clearly is encouraging bonus abuse - there really is no way around that.

I'm not at all agitated - I just expressed my opinion, and I stand by it. As I said at the time, the <1K confiscation sounds harsh, but it's hard to know for sure without all the facts. If all that ever happened was your wife making that one post, then obviously I'd agree it was excessive punishment. But you mentioned friends and family that received referral bonuses; if they found that you or your wife abused their bonus system to receive that money, then the confiscation may have been very much justified. I have no idea if what happened was the former, the latter, or something in between.

Basically, when you accuse a site of stealing money and then are unwilling to share further details, you should expect that people will question you and have doubts, and it doesn't mean they are trolling. You certainly aren't obligated to explain further, but if you aren't going to, you shouldn't expect people to assume the site was in the wrong.

I don't know what your fixation is each time I disagree with you, having to carry on about what the "mods" have to say. I'm only one person, no other mod had posted about this when you made this post, and I'm not the only one who isn't 100% convinced of Bodog's wrongdoing. And of course there's a bunch of inaccuracies in your portrayal of my post, but I can't be bothered to point them all out right now.

I can definitely see the possibility that Bodog has overreached by confiscating his funds, and possibly even with the closing of the accounts. Based on what he posted, I find the latter unlikely and I'm undecided about the former, but my mind is open to the possibilities. Meanwhile, your mind seems to be made up, and I have no idea how you can be 100% convinced that Bodog is in the wrong from what little information has been posted. Calling people out for choosing one side over the other when you're the only one to have done so is pretty silly.

i have a bit of a strange ish question. is it possible for me to play from a 'segregated market' if i'm not actually from that segregated market? obv stars software and security is super on point so they snap know if you're logging in from such a market and block u (ie logging into .com account from italy or america)

but bovada is clearly not pokerstars. i'm currently in italy to handle a bunch of family issues that were left a complete mess when my father died. i have to be here for at least another week or two. obviously the 450 is this weekend and i really really really wanna play it, even if it will run from 9pm- like 11am or whatever local time lol. i dont want to risk them seizing the money because i played from italy or whatever. i dont actually live here and would only be playing like once or twice. i have played on bovada from multiple places in mexico, punta cana, malta and never had an issue.


curious if any of the experts here can help me out without me having to ask support directly, thereby 'blowing the whistle on myself' so to speak.

this thread has been dismal lately

Has Omaha zone ever run? There seems to be a good amount of plo action on bovada, I could almost say it's 50/50 in cash games now with nlh. However, I've never seen it run in the zoom format.

It ran a bit when Zone was first introduced but died pretty shortly after.

just depostited first time. got hit for 5% fee on other end (not bovada) then had to do another deposit and got hit 5% on both ends for 10%.. this is on a 1k total deposit.. agent told me i was only allowed to deposit 500 per transaction because of new player/account...?

No rb, no bonus, and they charge to deposit, what greedy pigs.

i got bonus, 930$ have to clear it though. and a 250$ sport bet or w/e