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As you're finally here, could you please elaborate on the criteria used to select those 12 countries to which Betfair have restricted marketing since January:
(still accepting signups from most other countries but not paying affiliate commissions for them, which means that those other countries are excluded from affiliate-specific promotions and so will likely find better value with other iPoker operators who include them)?

By the way, it looks like 2+2 haven't applied geotargetting yet because Betfair's banner is shown to me in Russia. I wonder why you've even spent money on an international forum, instead of local forums of countries you wish to promote to.

The regulation argument doesn't work because e.g. Sweden is formally a segregated market (with Svenska Spel being almost the monopolist) and just has little power to ban foreign operators. How is the situation different in such grey markets as the former USSR or South America where authorities also have little power over gambling or have even legalised it in some countries (Belarus, Peru)?

It looks like Betfair are just having trouble with keeping the player base net depositing (as required internally by iPoker) and have decided to stop marketing to net withdrawing countries, but I believe Brazil and Chile (massive net depositors according to PTR) are still worth entering as their law enforcement is as weak as Swedish.

Hi,

This was the case as you mentioned back in January but it was changed about 4 months ago with official communication sent out.

Terms and conditions were also updated http://affiliates.betfair.com/page.aspx?l=1&p=7. Point 4.15.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

Many thanks for the clarification, it's good to know that Betfair is an excellent option for most countries again! As a mere player, I didn't manage to notice this change of terms and apologise for that.

Can Belgians play there ?

Sure can!

Whats the traffic like 200nl+? HU/6max

Also how has the room changed now that y'all are part of the Ongame network?

^ 'Good morning', they're exclusively on the iPoker2 network (i.e. the premium tier) for long already

The best way to measure the traffic is to actually download the Betfair poker client and observe the lobby because they have Spotlight tables hidden from the rest of the network (and awarding extra $1 for every $5 of rake generated there , up to a $100 reward), and also a small part of the tables are shallow (20-50 bb), which is not reflected by Pokerscout Gamefinder.

The iPoker client has made a lot of progress in the last 6 months; the recent updates have finally introduced the time bank in cash games and readable table and card mods in the Theme Cloud (I'm in love with the Snake Skin theme). (There's however a lot of work left because lags and disconnections have become more frequent, I got kicked off 3 times on the 31st )

The iPoker cash game pool is the second biggest worldwide. 6-max NL200 table counts are easily 2-digit at peak hours; there were 3 HU and 15 6-max NL200 tables playing half an hour ago (before people went to bed - it's an off-peak hour already). I can't tell more exactly as I usually watch the PLO lobby only

Can you explain this? What is the difference? Whats iPoker2?

In September 2012, iPoker split their small stake cash and SNG NLHE traffic into two pools while still sharing traffic in promo SNGs, satellites, MTTs and other, less populated, games like PLO, HSNL or Stud.

First, the biggest skins with strong recreational player bases formed a ringfenced pool aka iPoker2 for small stake cash and SNGs, hiding them from the rest of the network. Harsh requirements were imposed on skins to enter and/or remain on iPoker2 - they've had to care a lot about acquiring recreational players ever since.

The other skins also suddenly stopped allowing the big ones into their games affected by the split, forming so-called iPoker1, which now has way smaller traffic because many players have switched to iPoker2 skins, and also because many extra skins have fulfilled the requirements.

It's impossible to be logged into both pools from the same household at the same time.

Read more on that in the Pokerfuse iPoker split FAQ (it dates back to September 2012 so the list of iPoker2 skins is obsolete: Winner, Everest, Betfair, Coral and Gala have joined since then.)

Betfair were included into iPoker2 immediately when entering the network on January 21st. Existing customers were allowed to play on Ongame too until July, but new signups have been able to play only on iPoker ever since.

thanks Coon74, making my job a lot easier!

SMY, let me know if you have any further questions.

Hi Harry, good to see a thread dedicated to Betfair, but can I say that it might be a good idea to respond to threads posted on Betfairs poker community forum. All the regulars on Betfair have virtually deserted the forum (and probably the site itself), due to lack of communication. Anyways, now Ive got that off my chest, I have a couple of questions:

1./ Am i eligible for the above promos even though Im on an old rb deal?
2./ Is anything going to be done about the regular disconnections? (and please dont say its an Ipoker problem because it isnt)
3./ Does Betfair allow 'bots' to play on their site? (may seem like a stupid question, but I know of another Ipoker skin that does allow the use of bots)

Thanks in advance

Hi TF,

Sorry for the delay in responding to you here.

Understand your point although that isn't managed 'hands on' by the Poker team. If you feel you have anything that needs answering by us, please feel free to post here and I will get you a response.

1. Yes you are, everything bar our Milestone Matrix Promotion.
2. We believe the issue has been found and a fix has been rolled out.
3. We do not.

-Harry

Wait, what?

I don't want to derail this thread, but if you mean there's a site that actually has T&C's that permit them, it would be worthy of a new thread.

If you're simply speaking of poor enforcement of their rules against bots, there's a lot of discussion about that here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-ring-1074250/

Apparently they're working on it now:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...tters-1384987/

I'm new here and just registered to ask if there is any possibility to play at Betfair from USA, NJ?

Seems like it will be profitable because of the numerous casual players from sport betting part of the website.

I'm not sure if you guys have any control over this, as it maybe a iPoker software thing, but you can't hide the Shallow tables with any of the filters in PLO.

For example if you uncheck Under 30 Big Blinds and leave all the other options checked, you lose the 20-100bb standard tables.

I am guessing this is because the minimum buy in for standard tables hasn't been raised to 30bb like it has in No Limit Holdem, why is that? Although I assume this is an iPoker decision.

So yeah, it would be cool to have a filter to hide Shallow tables

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-bots-1108249/

The thread linked above refers to old (2011) WH T&C, afaik their current version includes no references to house bots.

Contrary to a popular belief, players whose aliases begin with 'bf', 'WWR', 'BMR', 'TTR', 'daf', 'ALSPC' etc. are humans who didn't care to replace an automatically assigned alias by a custom one. The name prefixes indicate skin membership, respectively Betfair (am I right?), Winner, Betmost, Titan, Dafa and I don't know which.

There are a lot of 'bf' because (I believe) such aliases were assigned automatically during the migration from Ongame. Some of these 'bf' are strong players, there's even a Monday Night Omaha winner among them. Players with other automatically assigned aliases are usually recreational (whose preferred product is a casino or a sportsbook).

Not this one again.

They are bots in the 'skill games' section of playtech gaming suite. They're pretty common/standard for this type of real-money online games. It's not related to poker or the ipoker network.

Lol, are you for real? You see no problem with them using in house bots, really? So what if these 'bots' end up cashing in a tourney? That money could've potentially been someone else's. Oh and you obviously didnt read the paddypower live chat where they specifically say they allow you to use a bot as long as you dont play on the same table as it. As far as " that thread was in 2011" goes, have you heard anything since that says they 'dont' allow bots on the network now? No and I tell you why, because bots are still rife on the network, the anonymous tables (especially HU tables) are a joke, they are filled with them. Its probably why ipoker introduced them in the first place!

Dont bury your head in the sand mate, this has been an issue for years. Why is it, sites like Pokerstars can out 'bots' in next to no time while Ipoker has a problem dealing with them?

I'm not burying my head in the sand. I know ipoker has a problem with bots. I wrote a news article about it just last week.

The link to the william hill thread is, however, a red herring. A misunderstanding of the T&Cs + a mistaken customer service rep at paddy.

The bots are for the skill games site like gin rummy, backgammon etc. Bots are v common on these types of sites, they're declared as such, you have the choice whether to sit them. the whole thread was a big misunderstanding and has nothing to do with poker

How am I supposed to withdraw from your site? I made my first deposit with Instadebit, thought I could use it to cashout but apparently not since it's not in the list.

If I try to withdraw to paypal I get an error because I never used that option before, yet it's not an option in the deposit section.

He's not; he's pointing out that the thread you linked to has nothing to do with poker bots. I already linked to two very good threads on iPoker bot issues.

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