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06-20-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
OK maybe I should stop commenting on here lol, I know nothing. I had no clue you can keep changing aliases once you have 5. How often can you do this?
You can create 3 new aliases every day and you can use every one of the 5 aliases you have during the session. You can load 5 cash games and use a different alias for each one. For SNG/MTT you can register for one and when the table opens go back to the home page, change alias and then reg another SNG/MTT and you'll be the 2nd alias.

You can create a new alias from the home page by clicking on the + after you click on your current alias name. The new alias will just replace one of the existing 5 you have and you get to choose which one.


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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
I would be curious to learn more about the techinical process, as I quit PartyPoker a couple of years back specifically because of the widespread of an illegal hud a few weeks after they stopped collaborating (no more extensive downloads of HHs) with the good functioning of PT4/holdem manager... It seems to me that if it was so easy and low in costs to counter/detect these huds, Party would of done something as well, but I suppose that the costs were too high and they just let it be...

Disclaimer : I have not played on Party since and have not followed suit on if anything has been done afterwards... (I quit 2-3 months after illegal huds invaded the player field and you either had to cheat/become one of them or maintain your ethics and change sites).
Pretty sure they're not going to say how they detect these things It may be as simple as checking to see what processes/programs you have running. I know I've had Stars client give me a warning for having HRC/ICMizer running when I opened the client
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06-20-2018 , 01:50 PM
If they aren't already, Unibet should protect those who can't be bothered or don't know about creating new aliases by moving the position of boxes around by a few pixels with regular releases.

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06-20-2018 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
If they aren't already, Unibet should protect those who can't be bothered or don't know about creating new aliases by moving the position of boxes around by a few pixels with regular releases.
There are regularly "missions" to change your alias and players get rewarded for it.
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06-20-2018 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
I had no clue you can keep changing aliases once you have 5.
FWIW, I think it should be made clearer that players can make another one when they've got 5 up and running. Maybe have "Replace an avatar" (instead of "create") as a mission. It's not completely obvious to a newbie that you can select one of the old ones to remove when you try making a new one.
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06-20-2018 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
Pretty sure they're not going to say how they detect these things It may be as simple as checking to see what processes/programs you have running. I know I've had Stars client give me a warning for having HRC/ICMizer running when I opened the client
No, I know they won't, but was just stating as a "ohhh, if only I could know everything" kind of thing That said, I am curious though to what extent changing alias helps escape a potential hud profiling you and to what extent said huds are being used...
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06-21-2018 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
That said, I am curious though to what extent changing alias helps escape a potential hud profiling you and to what extent said huds are being used...
I don't see how continually chaninging aliases can be tied to the same person by anyone outside Unibet (assuming the names aren't obviously connected). That's their purpose.
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06-21-2018 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
I don't see how continually chaninging aliases can be tied to the same person by anyone outside Unibet (assuming the names aren't obviously connected). That's their purpose.
right, so why is there huds being created for Unibet in the first place, if that is the case?
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06-21-2018 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
right, so why is there huds being created for Unibet in the first place, if that is the case?
If they are being created (how do we know this?) they will only be of benefit if people keep using the same alias because either they don't know/care about HUDs, don't know they can use new aliases every day or are too lazy to create new aliases.
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06-21-2018 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
If they are being created (how do we know this?) they will only be of benefit if people keep using the same alias because either they don't know/care about HUDs, don't know they can use new aliases every day or are too lazy to create new aliases.
ok, well this whole discussion started on the premise that they are indeed being used ; if they are not, then this discussiong has no purpose.
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06-21-2018 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
right, so why is there huds being created for Unibet in the first place, if that is the case?
Taken from the first result when you Google 'HUD for Unibet' ..

There are some limitations to the tracking that [insert bad software name here] products can provide however. Unfortunately, since players can change names three times per day, the ability to track players long-term doesn't exist. Your Unibet HUD will only work on a per session basis. However, this is still wildly +EV for anyone using the Unibet HUD. Imagine the edge you'll have when you are the only reg at the table using a HUD. You will be able to identify the fish more readily. You will be able to play more tables since you can more easily track the basic stats of the players at a glance instead of having to remember who is who. Imagine what that will do to your hourly rate? (hint: it will increase it dramatically!) And thus, we give this tracking software and heads up display a 5-star rating!

That blurb isn't even from the software's site, it's some rakeback site that is probably defunct. Considering the actual level of play on Unibet I'd be surprised if HUDs were a real issue. They can (and probably do) break any HUDs they know about on a monthly basis with the updates.
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06-21-2018 , 04:56 AM
They are used and it is known product which I won’t name here to prevent any incentive for new users/cheaters. But yes, they are used afaik. That is why I asked in the first place and hoped for any official stating what they do against it?
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06-21-2018 , 04:58 AM
Hi guys,
we do not allow any 3rd party software, not just HUD's, any 3rd party software is forbidden.
Of course there are always people trying to find a way around it and we do our best to prevent that.
At the moment there is no known HUD that works with us and with aliases in play, I don't think there is a real way to exploit the system.

Of course if you know anything else that we are not aware of yet, we are always happy to get feedback.

Also FYI Austria is now allowed to register on Unibet, in case you have friends living there

Thanks

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@Kropotking, could you PM me with more info and I have a look into this please?

Last edited by UnibetPatric; 06-21-2018 at 05:05 AM.
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06-21-2018 , 05:17 AM
Sounds good. And from what I know and see Unibet is the best place to play under fair and transparent conditions atm. I trust them doing what they can and just wanted some clarification. So keep up the good work!
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06-21-2018 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
Taken from the first result when you Google 'HUD for Unibet' ..

There are some limitations to the tracking that [insert bad software name here] products can provide however. Unfortunately, since players can change names three times per day, the ability to track players long-term doesn't exist. Your Unibet HUD will only work on a per session basis. However, this is still wildly +EV for anyone using the Unibet HUD. Imagine the edge you'll have when you are the only reg at the table using a HUD. You will be able to identify the fish more readily. You will be able to play more tables since you can more easily track the basic stats of the players at a glance instead of having to remember who is who. Imagine what that will do to your hourly rate? (hint: it will increase it dramatically!) And thus, we give this tracking software and heads up display a 5-star rating!

That blurb isn't even from the software's site, it's some rakeback site that is probably defunct. Considering the actual level of play on Unibet I'd be surprised if HUDs were a real issue. They can (and probably do) break any HUDs they know about on a monthly basis with the updates.
You're right, that HUD does claim support for every single poker site including Unibet because it uses screen scraping in place of hand histories.

This means it will break every time Unibet repositions a text box in a release.

Also, the use of aliases means it should only be useful for tracking players at the same table session as you, and how many hands will that be? A hundred hands is nothing really, and can often mislead.

Summary: nothing to worry about if you refresh your aliases daily.

UnibetPatric: I do think Unibet could do more to help players track their own results. There's no conflict between this and the policy of anonymity - Unibet could make our own HH's available to us after anonymising them (replacing aliases with generic names eg Player1). I'm sure this has been suggested before.
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06-21-2018 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
UnibetPatric: I do think Unibet could do more to help players track their own results. There's no conflict between this and the policy of anonymity - Unibet could make our own HH's available to us after anonymising them (replacing aliases with generic names eg Player1). I'm sure this has been suggested before.
You can request your results for any period of time via support/LC/Community forum.

I'd personally like hand histories for hand analysis in order to try and improve and for that anonymous histories would be fine. Making them available 24 hours after the hand is dealt or something also help to eliminate anyone trying to create something that could work out aliases from the histories.
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06-21-2018 , 06:41 AM
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06-21-2018 , 06:55 AM
Totally agree with Sleazy. Not having the chance to analyze my own game is the biggest deterrent from making Unibet my primary poker site. It would be amazing if HH would be made available like 24h after the session, something that Galfonds new site will do for example. This would give players the chance to do proper HH and Session reviews by maintaining anonymous and fair games at the same time.
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06-21-2018 , 06:59 AM
hi,

Is there any software that i can use to analyse my hands only playng on unibet?

thx
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06-21-2018 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kropotking
Totally agree with Sleazy. Not having the chance to analyze my own game is the biggest deterrent from making Unibet my primary poker site. It would be amazing if HH would be made available like 24h after the session, something that Galfonds new site will do for example. This would give players the chance to do proper HH and Session reviews by maintaining anonymous and fair games at the same time.
You can review your last 500 hands or 30 days within the software, we don't want to offer any form of extracting hands outside the software because it could be exploited one way or another.

On another regard: the issue with the sessions expiring within the client should be fixed now. If it still happens to you, please let us know.
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06-21-2018 , 09:35 AM
You can take screengrabs of the table and/or the hand histories listed in the client and do your analysis later. It's obviously not as simple or as quick as importing or copy/pasting hands into HEM/PT/Icmizer/Snowie etc, but the information is available for you to look at.
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06-21-2018 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinGreen
Dbags like you are the precise reason for no chat. I don't really agree with it however, poker is a social game and some sort of communication should be there. At least some emojis or something or lemme throw a ***** tomato

Grow a pair
I'd never flame another rec, but putting a needle into another reg that youve been battling is always amazing. If you can't take that turn off the internet.

@Unibetrep I love that you cant export HHs, makes me feel much safer about not getting cheated against
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06-21-2018 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NINzent
Grow a pair
I'd never flame another rec, but putting a needle into another reg that youve been battling is always amazing. If you can't take that turn off the internet.

@Unibetrep I love that you cant export HHs, makes me feel much safer about not getting cheated against
WOW you talk sh*t to people on the internet, you must have huge balls
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06-21-2018 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DianeAbbott
The issue with Unibet (as I think I mentioned in the PM I sent you) is you get too much time for each decision and too short of a timebank. You should halve the time for each decision and extend the timebank so it's only needed for difficult decisions.
Hey. I DO NOT agree with this above. Please take my opinion into account as well!
If you play 2-3 tables or more the time WHICH IS NOW IS JUST PERFECT.

Shorting it would end up in MASS global sitouts (because if you get sit out at one table you are automatically put into sit out on ALL OTHER tables). There is also NO AUTOTIMEBANK activation so it would be especially dramatic for cash game players who rakes the most.

So IMO shorting the time for decisions is a BAD IDEA. Just leave it as it is. Cheers!

Said reg.

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06-22-2018 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SirMario
Hey. I DO NOT agree with this above. Please take my opinion into account as well!
If you play 2-3 tables or more the time WHICH IS NOW IS JUST PERFECT.

Shorting it would end up in MASS global sitouts (because if you get sit out at one table you are automatically put into sit out on ALL OTHER tables). There is also NO AUTOTIMEBANK activation so it would be especially dramatic for cash game players who rakes the most.

So IMO shorting the time for decisions is a BAD IDEA. Just leave it as it is. Cheers!

Said reg.
It doesn't sit you out on all tables as far as I'm aware but regardless of that, who needs 30 seconds or whatever it is for every decision? I get the point about the auto timebank and maybe halving it is slightly too harsh but just because you think it's a good amount of time doesn't mean recs who 1 table are enjoying themselves.
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06-22-2018 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DianeAbbott
It doesn't sit you out on all tables as far as I'm aware but regardless of that, who needs 30 seconds or whatever it is for every decision? I get the point about the auto timebank and maybe halving it is slightly too harsh but just because you think it's a good amount of time doesn't mean recs who 1 table are enjoying themselves.
It does on the cashgame tables.
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