I would disagree with both your points.

Quantifiable measures of success are bringing new players to site, retention, spend per head, up selling to other products, player satisfaction, profits, margins, etc.

Your confusing bringing new blood to new money. A winning cash game player will always churn over his winnings. He will never put "new" money onto a table.

If you want to send a higher variety of players to next stage, you need a bigger player pool. If you want to achieve this by restrictions on the existing player pool then the maths would tell you its not cost effective.

@Arty

How popular is Twitter really though?

I get the impression this is mostly for politicians and media people to streamline communication (particularly so journalists don't have to call round for quotes like they used to) and there isn't much use for/from normal people. I have an account as you used to need one to do the EPT competitions.

The only person I know who actually used it was my father and a few months after he stopped being a politician he just closed his account.

That's right and is true of all the grindable parts of a poker site and that's pretty clear to everyone and reflected in the level of play at those tables.

Question is, should satellites just be what they are presented to recs as being, i.e. a way for 10 people to play against each to take a shot at getting into e.g. the Supernova, or should they be another grindable part of the site?

Nice to see Arty back on 2p2!

I would also like to add that the prizes for the nano version of the Unibet Online series look amazing! Well done!

While it would benefit me to say "grindable," an honest answer for the benefit of the site would be they are for shot-taking at levels above which you normally play.

Regarding the discussion on satellite ticket exchanges, I think one of the problems is how quickly they expire. I have bunch of Unibet open tickets, and the problem I have is how 50s expire in only 30 days. I have a lot of them but not enough time to use all of them, so I have to pester CS every month even if I don't need to make any echanges. How about making 50e tickets last for 90 days just like 250e tickets? That would make things a lot easier IMO.

What is a grinder and what is a rec.

Someone playing 4hrs per day who loses is a rec. Someone playing 4hrs a day and winning is a grinder.

Grinders/regs are an essential part of a poker site. Without these it would be harder to get games started at all.

^^^^
Depositors are the most essential part of any site. Everyone else can be replaced by a bot.

This cannot be correct. A 'recreational' player by the definition of the word would be a player that plays for fun, not professionally. The time the player spends playing is irrelevant and the same for their winnings.

how would you classify yourself

I would classify myself as a recreational regular. I play for fun and I play a lot.

You can have casual/regular players (quantity of play) and you can have recs/pros (financial objective).

hi,i played on microgamin,stanjames room,but now StanJames.com account has been moved to Unibet.
The problem,that unibet has not license in my country,so i can not even load their page to cash out.
I used some proxy and get accsess , but still cant log in,saying my pasword or nick not correct.
So how to cashout?

I self excluded on Stan James a while ago. Now I can't access anything on Unibet until 2107.

I presume this is impossible to change. Pretty sucky if so? I want to self exclude from sports betting and not poker....

I would say that recs is also a term that describes the quality of play. So you have players that play for recreation and you have players that win. This is better for business than calling them something else...

A player being good or bad is probably irrelevant to Unibet. They're going to be looking at depositors and non-depositors. A 'bad' player can run hot, bink something, withdraw and never play again and in the same vain a 'winning' player can run horribly and make multiple deposits.

How anyone describes any kind of players is getting pretty off topic from the discussion of sats anyway

hi,i played on microgamin,stanjames room,but now StanJames.com account has been moved to Unibet.
The problem,that unibet has not license in my country,so i can not even load their page to cash out.
I used some proxy and get accsess , but still cant log in,saying my pasword or nick not correct.

So how to cashout?

Well it's kind of on topic. I would say most (not all) of the people that play sats with tickets are recreationals of varying skill levels, people that have a job or are retired and play mostly for fun or to get to events, they will be profitable in some games and unprofitable in others, and are taking shots at stakes way higher than they would play normally. And of the pros I would say more of them buy in straight cash (mostly in the finals tho)

Will the deposit bonus be available for players who previously had a Unibet account before you guys left the market?

Otherwise it wouldn't be worth playing until the start of the next quarter but I would like to start playing sooner.

I also have a StanJames account but I can't login to it at the moment, I suspect because its the same email as my old Unibet account.

Email them. Don’t use a proxy anymore to access. Ask them about it. They will best inform you. If you had a contact in StanJames (VIP rep or something), message them also. Don’t spam them repeatedly, it could take a while to work it out

Stan James spammed the hell out of me informing me of this move, I assume they did the same to you and you just ignored the messages?

FYI incase anyone forgot, online series started tonight (think you can still late reg the 2nd set of tourneys)

https://www.unibet.com/promotions/po...-online-series

Would love to get you all to Malta but budget might get in the way...

Likewise, would love to have a face to face meet up in London office but not all of you are from the UK.

Just so I understand correctly, you mean still seat you but give you an extra minute to decide if you want to unreg?

Actually had a Twitter account I set up in 2017 but never used, posted a few times today. No BTS stuff yet but we're in Tallinn with devs this week so if you like pics of snow and offices, I've got just what you're after

@unibetdavid on Twitter

Thanks, will have a look into it.

I was following social media coverage throughout the event and was really pleased to see how much engagement and conversation there was around this event, especially around non-promo stuff.

Could you elaborate on this one?

No danger of being addicted, I barely find time to respond to regular text messages these days so will mostly confine my Twitter use to my journey to and from work.

Glad you like them, happy that we could run something interesting for those stakes as most sites often don't deem them worthy of much attention.

Agreed, there is an issue there. Expiry dates is forming part of new ticket policy discussion.

My 2 cents:

A 'rec' is often used as an almost derogatory term for a losing player when I think that's misguided. I consider myself a recreational player nowadays - I deposit (not on Unibet) once or twice a month but still consider myself a winning player. However, I don't have the time to commit to more than a few sessions per month and if I play more frequently than it's often for less than an hour. I jump in and jump out, the site can't rely on me to be there tomorrow. I'm a casual player.

A grinder imo is someone who is there everyday, often with the expectation of making a profit over time. There are other types of player who fit into neither (aspirational, gambler, etc). Regs are super important to a site, no site can survive without them unless you have huge liquidity. Likewise, a site can't survive without players who are willing to deposit. Both are important but the industry fell into the trap long ago of believing that only the regs had to be looked after. Obviously we don't think like that.

I'll come back to this post ASAP, just trying to find out which email address you can get in contact with.

I would think that this can be changed, can escalate it for you if you can PM me with your name/email/username.

I don't think it will be available before the next quarter just because deposit bonuses are not that simple to configure for Poker. I'm sitting down with the marketing manager tomorrow though so will double check with him.

If you also PM me with your username/email I can double check that all is ok with your account.

You can avoid all the politics/media/celebrity stuff if you find it tiresome. "Poker twitter" features loads of poker players that sadly no longer post on 2+2. Some of my fave poker tweeters are Kerstetter, Jungleman, Chris Kruk, Cate Hall, Brokos and Meyvis, Doke, Lappin, Daiva, Simpson, plus all the usual suspects like Negreanu, Polk, Joey Ingram, several regs from this thread, and all the main poker news sites and client providers. Occasional promos, twitch reminders, and overlay alerts are pretty useful too. Even insufferable bores like me are reasonably bearable when restricted to 280 characters.
The jury's still out on this new guy though: https://twitter.com/UnibetDavid

Pro-tip: If you sign up to twitter, use tweetdeck and create a list for your fave tweeters (or separate the poker people from actual humans), so you can cut through the dross and also see all your notifications in one place.

Can you load this page: https://www.unibet.com/help/contact?

Edit: if not then try emailing info@unibetsupport.com directly and explain the issue. You might have to then provide some docs but they should be able to sort a manual withdrawal for you. Sorry you couldn't join us

At David. For the unregistered thingy, I mean the other way around.
Once you are seated (one minute before) you still can't unreg. But... The notification you get when registering a tournament while it's playing should occur at that moment aswell (and maybe a moment in advance.
Now when you click reg at one minute before the start you get seated and you don't have any chance or warning to unreg.

Also. Reseting should be looked at. I had really really bad experiences with that. I post it, because just now it happened once again. I had 30 bbs left ( or something like that) in a 6-handed bounty. I get seated with 4 other players, all having 150+ bbs... No chance for pressuring my opponent as they can call with close to anything (at least, that's what they do in a bounty).
I got pulled from a table where I was second lowest stack, but the stacks there were more equal (25-30-50-60-80-120 bbs was the set up I think)
This is really not fun and ruining MTT play, certainly when I late reg a lot and come in to play short stacked a lot. Ruined the first score for the UOS aswell but its far from the first time this happens,and there are always more than enough players to equalize the tables...

Actually at the time you wrote that even the first set of tourneys were late regging.

The schedule works well for the (European) family man types. Plenty of late reg for the 19.00 CET tournaments so we can still get in after the kids go to bed and also thanks for arranging them so the second tournaments is the one with the shorter levels so it doesn't go on too late most of the time.

Starting to feel listened to now