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10-21-2017 , 09:56 AM
Hey David!

Just found this UnibetDSO event:
https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/fes...hp?a=r&n=23244

Is there any possibility to have a satellite for this event? Would be really cool, to travel into the summer at January
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10-21-2017 , 10:31 AM
Have a problem with the client
"Unibet poker client stopped working"

The poker client closes randomly all the time. I've tried to reinstall it, but it didn't work.
There are some screenshots of my config:


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10-23-2017 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Well pretty much what I said above then. The games aren't unbeatable but I know I could make more on another site. The thing is I don't want to faff around with 3rd party software and I like being addressed as an intelligent adult by the representatives of the company ITT.

But then I'm a reg not a pro. I don't think many full-time pros do play on the site - they could beat us regs even without their software but of course not for as much as they could beat the fish on other sites while using software. I would still recommend Unibet to a recreational player though - they're going to lose their money whatever but at least its on a level playing field in a straight up game on Unibet.


I think (not sure) you're wrong about this.
I play myself occasionally on Unibet and games are really nitty. After max 5 hands u know anyway who the fish is.
And what no 3rd party software does, it makes the weak regs able to play cause the other Regs don't see where they are weak and they can hide behind new SN.
I can be wrong, but I think a fish prefers losing -25bb/100 in a super fun aggro game instead of -20bb/100 while playing just vs nitregs and seeing the nuts 19 out of 20 times once he calls down.

As I said I can be wrong, but no 3rd party Software doesn't protect the fish really, cause we know after max 5min who the fish is. It protects the weak regs who would get crushed completely on Stars for example, but because of the anonymity on Unibet they are able to win slightly. So imo no 3rd software, is Making the games more unattractive for the recreational players, searching for action and not searching for games where everyone is folding and once someone he plays with him, oh surprise the guy got Aces.

Thats my opinion, can be wrong about this Obv. Would be interesting to hear an opinion from an official regarding this topic.
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10-23-2017 , 09:43 AM
hi david,

there is some confusion about the last day of poker play at the unibet open event in Bucharest. The site says the event will run til the 4th of december, but this is a Monday. I saw on twitter some posts that the event will run till 3 december. Normally unibet open final table is also played on sundays. Could you help me out with this, and maybe do you have a schedule of this pokertournament

thanks
rico
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10-23-2017 , 09:43 AM
^^^
"As I said I can be wrong, but no 3rd party Software doesn't protect the fish really, cause we know after max 5min who the fish is..."

Not everyone is as great as you so it may take us more than five minutes (if such is even possible for us and our limited skills). Also, third-party software does more than just tell you who the weakest player at the table is, it tells you how to best play against them to increase your chances of beating them.

Speaking for myself, there are enough other alternatives on which to play if you like third-party software or engage in bum-hunting that there is no reason for Unibet to adopt that model (especially, as I am sure they have stats that show them that what they are doing is working at giving recs more bang for their deposit dollar which encourages them to deposit again).
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10-23-2017 , 09:51 AM
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hi david,

there is some confusion about the last day of poker play at the unibet open event in Bucharest. The site says the event will run til the 4th of december, but this is a Monday. I saw on twitter some posts that the event will run till 3 december. Normally unibet open final table is also played on sundays. Could you help me out with this, and maybe do you have a schedule of this pokertournament

thanks
rico
Normally the last day of play is the Sunday. I think they reference the 4th because if you win a package you get the choice of Wed-Sun or Thur-Mon as you travel days.
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10-23-2017 , 10:57 AM
Thanks sleazy for your reply,

I asked live support with this problem and I just received an email a few minutes ago that the date 4th was a mistake on the website, they have now changed it to 3 december. So now im able to play the event, this makes my day
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10-23-2017 , 01:20 PM
Hi David,

I was wondering why there aren't any 'normal' qualifiers for the supernova and the milky way? Those 10-->100 steps are not really attractive to be honest. I would really like a 5-25-100 structure for the supernova and a 2-10-50 for the milky way (or something like that). Maybe you could make it so you can use the €50 ticket either for the Milky Way on Saturday or the Odyssey on Sunday. That way you could combine qualifiers for these tournaments. Just some more normal sats, and not only 2-->25 or 5/10-->100.

Also: the Nebula still has the 'old' new structure, with the first 2 levels removed. I thought all tournaments would have the same structure now? And I see the Nebula and Spectrum have new times for next Sunday? 16 CET and 18CET. Since it are very much the same tournaments, maybe you could make one of them a freezeout? That would mean more diversity in the majors. Also 16/17CET for a Sunday major seems really early.

A while ago I posted this and you liked the idea: ''I was thinking about the betting freerolls. You can earn two tickets per week, and there are two betting freerolls per week. Some players can only play one day though. At the moment it is not possible to re-enter with another betting freeroll ticket if you are knocked out early. Maybe you could have the re-enter option there with either the €1 like it is now, or with another betting freeroll ticket, so every player can put them to full use, even if they can't play on both of the tournament days?''. Any news on this?

Do you know when the registration link for the UO Bucharest will be ready? Can you confirm for me I can choose to play day1B and stay in the hotel from Thursday to Monday?

And could you tell us what the november SNG promo will look like?

Thanks for your answers.

Last edited by RK_95; 10-23-2017 at 01:28 PM.
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10-23-2017 , 01:45 PM
Hi,

Is it possible to download all my hands/get them via email?

Thanks
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10-23-2017 , 01:59 PM
Also: At 19.55 CET there is a €1 ''Qualifier to €5 ticket'' starting. It is not possible to take a tournament break this way. It is the same at 20.55 CET and 21.55 CET. Please change these things ASAP, it shouldnt be that hard to take things like this into account, especially since it has been said a few times before ITT.
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10-23-2017 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RK_95
Hi David,

I was wondering why there aren't any 'normal' qualifiers for the supernova and the milky way? Those 10-->100 steps are not really attractive to be honest. I would really like a 5-25-100 structure for the supernova and a 2-10-50 for the milky way (or something like that). Maybe you could make it so you can use the €50 ticket either for the Milky Way on Saturday or the Odyssey on Sunday. That way you could combine qualifiers for these tournaments. Just some more normal sats, and not only 2-->25 or 5/10-->100.
I'm personally a big fan of the type of "Moneymaker" satellites where for a relatively small amount you play straight through to the target tournament and I think they support getting a wider variety of player into target tournament. I call them Moneymaker satellites to remind people that they were the foundation the poker boom was built on before sites replaced them with a series of steps.

Let the 5 euro people play each other for a place in the 100 euro tournament, not play each other for the chance to be shark food for the players at the 25 euro level.

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Originally Posted by RK_95
Also: the Nebula still has the 'old' new structure, with the first 2 levels removed. I thought all tournaments would have the same structure now? And I see the Nebula and Spectrum have new times for next Sunday? 16 CET and 18CET. Since it are very much the same tournaments, maybe you could make one of them a freezeout? That would mean more diversity in the majors. Also 16/17CET for a Sunday major seems really early.
The time thing above is probably related to the clocks going back. Not sure if
a) it's going to be like that all winter
b) it's a mistake or
c) it's set correctly in the system for the winter time (server time seems to be GMT all year round) but is just displaying "weird" for us as we still have summer time settings and will self-correct on Sunday when our timezones change from CEST to CET or from BST to GMT.

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Originally Posted by RK_95
A while ago I posted this and you liked the idea: ''I was thinking about the betting freerolls. You can earn two tickets per week, and there are two betting freerolls per week. Some players can only play one day though. At the moment it is not possible to re-enter with another betting freeroll ticket if you are knocked out early. Maybe you could have the re-enter option there with either the €1 like it is now, or with another betting freeroll ticket, so every player can put them to full use, even if they can't play on both of the tournament days?''. Any news on this?
I like this - it would also be nice if this was possible for the double-trouble.
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10-23-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Beckham087
Hey David!

Just found this UnibetDSO event:
https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/fes...hp?a=r&n=23244

Is there any possibility to have a satellite for this event? Would be really cool, to travel into the summer at January

Please make it possible, David! :-)

I´ve always wanted to go to Mauritius!
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10-23-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
I'm personally a big fan of the type of "Moneymaker" satellites where for a relatively small amount you play straight through to the target tournament and I think they support getting a wider variety of player into target tournament. I call them Moneymaker satellites to remind people that they were the foundation the poker boom was built on before sites replaced them with a series of steps.

Let the 5 euro people play each other for a place in the 100 euro tournament, not play each other for the chance to be shark food for the players at the 25 euro level.
I'm not saying they have to remove the current sats, I would just like a normal satellite tree too. Since the Supernova is overlaying a lot it might be a good addition I think.

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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
The time thing above is probably related to the clocks going back. Not sure if
a) it's going to be like that all winter
b) it's a mistake or
c) it's set correctly in the system for the winter time (server time seems to be GMT all year round) but is just displaying "weird" for us as we still have summer time settings and will self-correct on Sunday when our timezones change from CEST to CET or from BST to GMT.
Ah, that might be it!

EDIT: DSO sats would be awesome! +1
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10-24-2017 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RK_95
I'm not saying they have to remove the current sats, I would just like a normal satellite tree too. Since the Supernova is overlaying a lot it might be a good addition I think.
But wouldn't it result in fewer people reaching the target tournament as the 5 euro fish would attract people would start grinding the 25 euro level and to reconvert the tickets? - more money would leave the system as rake then too.
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10-24-2017 , 03:28 AM
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But wouldn't it result in fewer people reaching the target tournament as the 5 euro fish would attract people would start grinding the 25 euro level and to reconvert the tickets? - more money would leave the system as rake then too.

I think there are a lot less recs getting into the Supernova with the current satellite system. It s a very long shot to get in there with 5€ buyin.

There would be more if it would be changed into 1-5-25-100 tree, just like the way it was with the old one.

They still can keep the 5€ rebuy/addon donkaments
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10-24-2017 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GWIT
I think there are a lot less recs getting into the Supernova with the current satellite system. It s a very long shot to get in there with 5€ buyin.

There would be more if it would be changed into 1-5-25-100 tree, just like the way it was with the old one.

They still can keep the 5€ rebuy/addon donkaments
Would be a lot more players getting tickets if the late reg bug is fixed. About 300e of games I didnt play last week because reg closing early.
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10-24-2017 , 04:30 AM
Hi David i won 3 nebula tickets in the raffle, but didnt notice and they expire before this weeks tourney i think. Any chance you could extend them and i will play this weeks?

Alias winkmeoff
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10-24-2017 , 05:38 AM
I agree with all the above on optimising a good sattelite tree for the majors.

I think it's pretty clear that it'll work if we watch how the 25 euro qualifier on sunday broke the GTD easily.

I don't know if this is dangerous or not, but one tree for all majors together.

Red lines are for the "donkaments" which are x10. (If you want to you can add one between 2 and 25, but that's maybe not necessary)


Don't know why the image isn't showing up. Here is the link https://imgur.com/a/UK06m

Sorry for inventing the 250 euro high roller But it sounded cool

I think this kind of structure will be appreciated, since it seems to work in the UO satellites.

If you have
1 -> 5 run hourly from 9/10 in the morning (untill 17/18 when 25->100 starts)
1 -> 10 maybe only a few times in the afternoon
2 -> 10 also hourly from noon (or even earlier)
5 -> 25 hourly from early in the afternoon
25 -> 100 Hourly between 17 and 21 (or two-hourly idk)
10 -> 100 twice in the afternoon
10 -> 50 two-hourly starting around 16

5 splits in Spectrum, Nebula and Qualifiers
10 splits in Qualifiers mainly and Cosmic Rays
25 splits in Ice Giant and Qualifiers
50 splits between Milkyway and Oddysey.
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10-24-2017 , 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RK_95
Hi David,

I was wondering why there aren't any 'normal' qualifiers for the supernova and the milky way? Those 10-->100 steps are not really attractive to be honest. I would really like a 5-25-100 structure for the supernova and a 2-10-50 for the milky way (or something like that). Maybe you could make it so you can use the €50 ticket either for the Milky Way on Saturday or the Odyssey on Sunday. That way you could combine qualifiers for these tournaments. Just some more normal sats, and not only 2-->25 or 5/10-->100.


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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
I'm personally a big fan of the type of "Moneymaker" satellites where for a relatively small amount you play straight through to the target tournament and I think they support getting a wider variety of player into target tournament. I call them Moneymaker satellites to remind people that they were the foundation the poker boom was built on before sites replaced them with a series of steps.

Let the 5 euro people play each other for a place in the 100 euro tournament, not play each other for the chance to be shark food for the players at the 25 euro level.
I think you're underestimating the player pool LektorAJ There is a long standing culture of ticket grinding on Unibet and the same thing would happen here. A decent number of the reg low stakes players would just grind the 5's until they had enough tickets to take shots at the 25. You won't just get people playing the 5, winning and then getting crushing in the 25.

The 1 in 10/20 route might work when you can get lots of players to actually play the sats but the majority of them just now just pay out 1-2 tickets to the target and then just a bunch of rebates. I don't think that's a game the majority of the reg sat players are going to waste their time with.

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Originally Posted by RK_95
Also: the Nebula still has the 'old' new structure, with the first 2 levels removed. I thought all tournaments would have the same structure now? And I see the Nebula and Spectrum have new times for next Sunday? 16 CET and 18CET. Since it are very much the same tournaments, maybe you could make one of them a freezeout? That would mean more diversity in the majors. Also 16/17CET for a Sunday major seems really early.
Let's not beat around the bush, they are the same tournament. The level time and starting stack are slightly different but they're the same thing in essence. You don't even start the Spectrum with 100bb, in a Sunday 'major'. The Nebula is a hyper R/A, other than the aggressive GTD, what's major about it? It should be called Apollo 1

[slightly off tangent rant]

According to the public schedule spreadsheet there are only 4 MTTs with blind levels of 10 minutes and above, they're all Sunday Majors and they're all €25 and above. At the 8 minute level there is a single €1 and two €2 daily, that run at 12, 16:30 and 21:30. Why have decent length small/micro MTTs been wiped from the schedule? In the old schedule the €1 Daily deepstack and the €4 Bounty deepstack were two of the highest entered MTTs on the schedule (as far as I could tell) and now there is nothing in the evening to play.

I know I've had this rant on the community already but it's been 3 weeks now and nothing has changed. Multiple people there have complained that the low stakes (€1-2) offering is a lot worse in the new schedule. A single bounty in the evening, no PLO for 3 hours in the evening, nothing above 6 min levels in the evening. I'm sure you can say that what's in the schedule is hitting GTDs and people are playing them but if that's all that's being offered of course they'll play them.

It feels like the schedule was created with the Sunday majors in mind and to appease the Ambassadors that want to play decent big games and the small stuff have just been filled in at random without any consultation with players that actually play those stakes and times regularly. With sure a big community on the forum and via Twitch etc. I think you could have shown this to a handful of regs pre-release and got a much more well rounded schedule.

[/slightly off tangent rant]

Also, change the name of the Gorsky MTT or add the GTD to the title please. It's basically the Black Hole that runs 30 minutes before it and even with R/A can't hit €400 when the Black Hole (with the GTD in the title) beats €700 as a re-entry. That or make it €2, a stake that seems to be under represented just now.
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10-24-2017 , 11:46 AM
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^^^


Speaking for myself, there are enough other alternatives on which to play if you like third-party software or engage in bum-hunting that there is no reason for Unibet to adopt that model (especially, as I am sure they have stats that show them that what they are doing is working at giving recs more bang for their deposit dollar which encourages them to deposit again).
what is working for unibet exactly? i see a high raking site with breakeven regs fighting for 40% rakeback
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10-24-2017 , 12:10 PM
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The 1 in 10/20 route might work when you can get lots of players to actually play the sats but the majority of them just now just pay out 1-2 tickets to the target and then just a bunch of rebates. I don't think that's a game the majority of the reg sat players are going to waste their time with.
Good. Satellites are supposed to be a way to support getting recs into the target tournaments, not for regs specialized in the peculiarities of satellite ICM to grind and act as end bosses stopping recs from making the final step to the tournament. If you get, say, 13-14 people enter a 10 euro Supernova satellite, giving out 1x 100 euro ticket and 1x 25 euro ticket would be fine though.
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10-24-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
If you get, say, 13-14 people enter a 10 euro Supernova satellite, giving out 1x 100 euro ticket and 1x 25 euro ticket would be fine though.
What you'd get there is 1 ticket, 2 rebates and a 6 euro booby prize.

When I said 'reg' I meant players that play often, not good players.

Last edited by SleazyP84; 10-24-2017 at 12:33 PM.
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10-24-2017 , 12:54 PM
What is going to hurt sats more then anything is the late reg time prior to add on. I can guarantee that Poles and Lithanians who are sat specialists and collude a lot will take advantage of these offerings. I dealt with this crowd on Stars for 3 years and this type of player is aids to any satellite program.
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10-24-2017 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SleazyP84
Also, change the name of the Gorsky MTT or add the GTD to the title please. It's basically the Black Hole that runs 30 minutes before it and even with R/A can't hit €400 when the Black Hole (with the GTD in the title) beats €700 as a re-entry. That or make it €2, a stake that seems to be under represented just now.


, that was fast. Thanks.
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10-24-2017 , 09:33 PM
Hey David!

Is there any info about next years Unibet Open locations?
I'm going to reach 1,25M soon, but I probably won't be able to go to Bucharest.
I'm thinking about moving it to the next event, but if there is no date and location, I'll just go ahead and ask for BonusPoints instead... Not sure how much I'll get tho.
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