I am curious about this as well : I will be travelling, come November to European countries where I have absolutely no idea about poker legislation... Countries such as Czech Republic, Slovaquia, Romania, Israel, Serbia and Bosnia... Also : what is Unibet's stance on VPN David?

Thx man

Hey! So I really don't want to defend Unibet, especially because this late announcement issue. (I guess when you start to organise an event with a certain casino you can see their ability to compromise, and can decide to go somewhere else.) They even changed to the structure and blind levels because of it.
I guess most players would be happy, with an event in the EU, and from 1,25K€, 5-6 days in 4-5 star hotels in awesome places would be peace of cake.

But then again I'm basically okay with Vegas as well. Just not okay with the change in structure, and the late announcement.
About the hotel price: If you open the next page where you can actually can book the room you can see there are some extra costs. 13,38% tax, and 39$ "resort fee/night". So it is close to 900€ total if my calculations are correct.
To top it, wifi price for 4 days are : 80$*
And 4 dinners are 4*50-70$ (depending on the day)*
*according to UnibetDavid

So the numbers add up well I guess.


To sum it up, It feels that the team really wanted to do something BIG (and I appreciate the hard work), but in the end it became a little less and a little late.

You shouldnt count wifi in package because its included in resort fee already. And dinner has been always buffet and from google i can found that its 39$ on weekdays and 40$ weekends at wynn and im sure they are getting discount from that also.

There is also a players party to pay for.

If you're all so pissy about the way they've created the package then don't go and exchange it.

If you exchange it you get only 2250e instead 3000e what package value should be. And i was just telling thruth about prices in my last answer.

And why you are so mad about this conversation? In my mind Unibet should be able to publish these expenses and if there is nothing to hide then there shouldnt be this kind of conversation.

From Unibet side it should be very easy to just publish where all the expenses from this package come and that would end all speculation. Very easy way to quit all this speculation what people are doing there.

I find the pricing discussion frustrating because people seem to be looking for a package that costs Unibet money when they are trying to create a good experience for the players. Knowing exactly how the package is broken down makes no difference at this point. They can't alter it. Are you going to not go if they give you a detailed breakdown and there is a €200 admin fee? David has already stated that they're not making money of UOs so why push for them to lose more.

I can appreciate that people think they can get a better deal online by doing a few Google searches and that's fine, book the hotel and buy in direct, but I really don't see what players issue with what you get from the package being organised by Unibet. Nobody knows if the block of rooms they got are the bargain basement ones people are posting here or if they've maybe got a deal on better rooms, either way it really shouldn't matter.

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Poker players really do have a stereotype that many of them work hard to live DOWN to in public.

Enjoy the event, be thankful, and stop crying.

I made search directly from Wynn and get this. Just wanted to add this because you saying that people just "think" getting better deal for hotel. This is price what anyone could get directly from Wynn.

https://gyazo.com/825613d4b92f716a930c3b04a8d3adaf

It is total 867e.

I said "think" because you and I don't know that the room in the screenshot matches the room Unibet has booked.

Absolutely not. I played a satellite where I had to pay an entry fee with Rake right?!
So by that satellite Unibet realizes revenue.
When I pay 250€ to win 3k value, I want to win 3k Value and not 2.x k value.

Can u explain me what is wrong with this thought process?

And when u say it shouldn't matter, I guess you are trolling. Or when u go to the supermarket, you buy milk for 1€ and you just get the value of 80 cents.
You also say then it doesn't matter?

Edit wants to add that Unibet could clarify this in 1 post and no one would be upset anymore. So, I/we am/are waiting for their clarification.
Thats all I am asking.

I agree with you that it should be 3k package and there shouldnt be "admin fee" which is same as rake because rake is already paid.

And like i said earlier also that if there is nothing to hide they could have answered with all details and it would quit that speculation what people are doing.

You're completely entitled to want €3k value for your win, nobody is disputing that. The point I'm making is that people have assumed you're not getting that value based on one Google search for rooms at the Wynn.

Everyone complaining doesn't appear to be taking any of the following into account (Based on what I got in UO London) :-

- Dinner for each night
- Multiple free drinks tokens in the casino
- Free merch (Hoodie, Chip set etc)
- €500 Community freeroll
- The players party inc. free drinks tokens
- Paid for dinner + drinks one night with players from same region outside the regular buffet

I will be happy to eat my words if anyone comes back after the EO and feels like they were short changed.

You and i know that rooms unibet book have been cheapest ones in all other unibet opens lately. I have been taking part in those so i know what i have got. I doubt it isnt different in Las Vegas but if it is then its easy to tell that in public because then people are happy that they are getting something better than normal room.

Its very bad marketing if they book better rooms and dont even tell that to people who have got packages.

What about people who are absolutist? Do you think they wanna pay for free drinks?

LOL that 500€ community freeroll, if there is 300 people attending to unibet open its almost 2e value per person. ;-)

Free merch has been only hoodie always when i have been attending and people dont wanna pay for that because its unibet marketing. Any other site doesnt put people to pay from that because its always free because they use it marketing their site.

Dinner for each night in Wynn has value of 120$ like i told before. And thats certainly something that is value for each player. But in future in my mind they should remove those also because usually people wanna see also town and go different restaurants. Now they have to eat every day same buffet if they wanna get value from that.

There were two tables at the London freeroll but anyway..

You want Unibet to account for every cent in the package, I don't. To you it's €3k you deserve to have every penny of, to me it's €x in sat buy-ins converted into a 4 night holiday in Vegas and a great experience.

Different strokes for different folks

Lets take different look so maybe you understand why people are complaining.

If your boss says that you will get 3000e salary at the end of month and he pays you for eample only 2700e wont you complain? Im quite sure that everyone else is wanting to get full amount of package and not only part of it like you.

And for that freeroll when you count value of it you should count it divided for number of packages because thats value unibet is paying for it.

you are a freaking nl 10 rec player, obviously you would think this way, and not in terms of EV

i will still go, but i would refrain from playing any more satellites that are - EV longterm wise ( i dont play poker recreationally like you do so these things actually matter to me )

The package is worth €3k, it's not 3k cash. If I got €2700 plus meals and transport and a uniform and whatever other fictional things required in this scenario then I'd be fine with it

I don't play cash outside completing missions

I and everyone else would be fine with it with also if its worth 3k. But now it is not like many have told.

For example i dont wanna pay for free drinks when going to play poker. Its work for me. When i go to holiday i can drink and not even play poker. Im not onlyone with that opinion. We have been told to get 3000€ worth package to play poker and not to drink alcohol and get some uniform that we dont even need. And those meals and transport where included in that 2700€ value already and everyone is asking where rest goes.

You get a lot more than just a room and food. Oh and the food they've spread to every Unibet Open I've been on has always been absolutely amazing!

The only gripe I've ever had is that my gf has to pay £40 additional for every main meal, every day. That's pretty expensive. She doesn't want to pay that so usually we just go elsewhere otherwise we can't dine together....

Yeah im usually also with my girlfriend and thats why i earlier said that my opinion is that there shouldnt be dinner paid from package because its not worth that much value. I have never said that there isnt value in dinner and like i told its about 40$ so total 160$ and its calculated in package. Im totally ok with that.

All i want that unibet could told players why package is worth of 3000€. Nothing else needed like everyone other also want just know the truth. When they are counting example something that is included in resort fee to package value then its not correct like someone mentioned wifi.

Ive been in one of those unibet opens, and can only feedback a bad experience for the price ive been paying, definitely not going to satty in those again.

All I want to say is stop being so ****** miserable and miserly. Life is not about having to seek out maximising $ be in every situation, it's about experiences , and if anyone's losing out here on the room price it's probably a few hundred dollars max - which can be more than made up by the players party and table free drinks. Not to mention the fact you get to go to Vegas!!! Lighten up people.

Its few hundred dollars for one person. I assume that few hundrer dollars for individual person is much more than few hundred dollars for company that make millions of profit in year.

If its for example 200$ per package and there are 300 packages its 60000$ saving for Unibet.