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07-14-2014 , 10:48 PM
still no updated leaderboard?
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07-15-2014 , 04:01 AM
Dear Andrew!

I have 10 * 1euro UO ticket.
Can you change to 1 10euro UO ticket?
Username and nick: Mobile80

Thank You!
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07-15-2014 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by skicowboys
Ok now I'm curious again, maybe I was correct, can you have a look at 46551305 21.48 13th (yest). I flopped 2 pairs and turned a 3rd. Adrian,
Thanks, we're looking into it.

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Originally Posted by Tafete
can you change my 10 1€ tickets to 1 10€ ticket.
Sorry - I'm not going to change any UBO tickets that were credited after the 9th of Jul. See:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post43907687
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post43907754
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post43921829

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Originally Posted by 39suited
Andrew, is it correct that the PLO and NLHE tables do not count together towards the daily spins goal wrt seen flops but rather separately from each other?
Yeh, the system counts PLO4 as a different game ID than NL4, and we have different requirements for each game ID.

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Originally Posted by 39suited
Andrew, fwiw the SNG mission with a SNG each on 3 days in a row didn't complete for me. I had 2/3 done already and just now played one at 00:17 CET. Even logged out and it still shows as not completed.
00:17 CET is 23:17 UTC so that still counts as the day before. The mission runs on UTC: https://www.unibet.co.uk/promotions/...s/july-mission

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Originally Posted by kapetain
I have a suggestion for slot promo after football expires...

maybe try replacing it with some "light" version of your own slots, where you give rewards depending on what games you want more populated.
That way you are promoting both poker games and slots..
and somehow I'm pretty sure people like that kind of promo
Yes, agree. I don't want to run that promo forever because I think people get used to it and it stops driving anything. But I definitely want to bring it back regularly, perhaps with a few changes here and there.

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Originally Posted by 50 pence
I opened a 1EUR hu sng with a ticket. In the dealer chat came that I and my opponent posted the blinds. But nothin further, no play, no one in the seats.

When i reseted the client I came back to see that play was going on and I was sit ou with my stack down to 600.
Hmm, what version are you using, and is it on PC/Mac/iOS? Also, what's your alias? I know I have it somewhere, but...

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Originally Posted by Dodo88
I have 10 * 1euro UO ticket.
Can you change to 1 10euro UO ticket?
Sure, done.

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Originally Posted by smetje
still no updated leaderboard?
Should be up soon. It was the Unibet London office summer party yesterday afternoon and we didn't get the leaderboard update in time. Sorry about that.
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07-15-2014 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UnibetAndrew
00:17 CET is 23:17 UTC so that still counts as the day before. The mission runs on UTC: https://www.unibet.co.uk/promotions/...s/july-mission
Damn, could have figured out that one myself since you got the office in London.

Just played the third one and it went through, but with a bitter sweet side note. My opponent Mar0zas got disconnected and never came back in time, that's not how I want to win a HU SNG.

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07-15-2014 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 39suited
Damn, could have figured out that one myself since you got the office in London.
Just to make it more confusing, the developers are in Tallinn, so EET. It's in the T&C though: https://www.unibet.com/promotions/po...s/july-mission

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Originally Posted by skicowboys
Ok now I'm curious again, maybe I was correct, can you have a look at 46551305 21.48 13th (yest). I flopped 2 pairs and turned a 3rd. Adrian,
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Originally Posted by UnibetAndrew
Thanks, we're looking into it.
There was indeed a bug. It wasn't counting aces because there was a misplaced line of code to do with aces being high or low.

We've fixed the Challenge so that it now counts aces. This will work for everyone who currently has the Challenge as well as for everyone who gets the Challenge in the future.

However, it doesn't count old hands with aces that should have qualified. Therefore we are going to credit everyone with loyalty points equal to the percentage of increased difficulty in the Challenge times their points projection for that Challenge.

Also, I've credited you (skicowboys) with 2x €25 PLO25 tickets for finding a bug that would've cost us more money if it'd lasted longer. Let me know if you'd prefer some other denomination that adds up to €50.
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07-15-2014 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by UnibetAndrew
There was indeed a bug. It wasn't counting aces because there was a misplaced line of code to do with aces being high or low.

We've fixed the Challenge so that it now counts aces. This will work for everyone who currently has the Challenge as well as for everyone who gets the Challenge in the future.

However, it doesn't count old hands with aces that should have qualified. Therefore we are going to credit everyone with loyalty points equal to the percentage of increased difficulty in the Challenge times their points projection for that Challenge.

Also, I've credited you (skicowboys) with 2x €25 PLO25 tickets for finding a bug that would've cost us more money if it'd lasted longer. Let me know if you'd prefer some other denomination that adds up to €50.
Hi Andrew, thank you very much for the tickets (game and denominations are perfect) and it's nice to know I wasn't imagining it! I can go back to just playing now, not scrutinising every hand, which is better for all concerned.
How will the percentage of increased difficulty work? I'm 11/50 with a points prediction of 16273, do you add a percentage figure to that at the end? Just curious. Again thanks for the speedy response and the tickets, I am grateful. Ok enough typing I've a challenge to complete! Adrian
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07-15-2014 , 07:18 AM
Hi Andrew,

When are the race winnings expected to be paid?
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07-15-2014 , 08:05 AM
Hi Andrew, I have a big favour to ask.
Can you please extend the period of my welcome bonus until the end of month?
I had some problems with depositing after i joined unibet and lost a few days, and with the summer and all didn`t had that much tiime to play.
Thank you.
My screen name is milioanele.
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07-15-2014 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by skicowboys
How will the percentage of increased difficulty work? I'm 11/50 with a points prediction of 16273, do you add a percentage figure to that at the end? Just curious. Again thanks for the speedy response and the tickets, I am grateful. Ok enough typing I've a challenge to complete! Adrian
You're 22% of the way through, so we'll credit the difficulty increase * 22% * 16,273 projected points.

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When are the race winnings expected to be paid?
Should be in the next hour or so.

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Originally Posted by MarcusM
Hi Andrew, I have a big favour to ask.
Can you please extend the period of my welcome bonus until the end of month?
I had some problems with depositing after i joined unibet and lost a few days, and with the summer and all didn`t had that much tiime to play.
Sure, done.
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07-15-2014 , 09:29 AM
hi andrew, can u convert all my tickets in one 50e ticket? ty; username traian7
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07-15-2014 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CirtogC
hi andrew, can u convert all my tickets in one 50e ticket? ty; username traian7
Sure, done. I assume you wanted SNG based on prior play, let me know if not.
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07-15-2014 , 09:46 AM
Hi Andrew.
One thought about tickets. When they have expired they show "expired" across the ticket in red. The ones available for use have a green logo. Is it possible as they are about to expire in say 2 days or so that they could have an orange "ticket expires soon" emblazoned on them. My other thought is that the order could do with being the other way round. I for example have 30 tickets and have to scroll to the right hand side to see what the remaining life is, if they appeared in the window on the left hand side in order of expiry this would makes it easier. This is only a minor thing, but any thing that improves the experience can't be bad.

Ok one last query and then I'm done. 22% of 16273 is 3580 points. Today my points have increased from 8962 to 10294 and I haven't completed any challenges, minor or major so I don't know where they have come from (1332 points). It appears that the points were credited at 13:19 today. This isn't any where near 22%. If it's not related to that any ideas what it is related to? I would appreciate it if you could you check for me. Happy for an answer on here or you can always PM me if it's easier
Thank you Adrian
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07-15-2014 , 09:54 AM
The projection was 16,273. You were 22% through so that's 3,580.06. But the missing part is the difficulty increase. The frequency with which we expect these to hit has risen by 37.21%. So we multiplied 3,580.06 by 0.3721 to get 1,332 which is what we see here.

Good idea re tickets, I'll suggest it. We're also going to make expired tickets disappear sooner so that it's easier to see what's happening. We weren't really expecting to have players on 30+ tickets, but my Challenges design ended up giving us those situations. We need a better solution to tickets, this suggestion sounds like a good step in the right direction.
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07-15-2014 , 09:57 AM
Thinking out aloud so please dont everybody bite my head off. I dont really take too much notice of the challenges but after reading posts i had a quick view and some are uninspiring/dubious(did not know which word to use). poker in the uk is a game of equal chance. By attempting some of the challenges by definition it becomes a different game. I have been out of the gaming industry for a while so rules may have changed or maybe different for online gaming. This has the hallmark of one day some guy losing all his money and mind and sues claiming he was goaded into a particular way of playing giving him an unequal chance. People have gone to court with much less of an argument.
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07-15-2014 , 10:10 AM
Could you give me an example?

I've tried to make them so they don't make you play worse. I've definitely included a couple that make you play better.

I don't think it works to say "the site made me play this way" because then it would apply to all loyalty schemes. "I just wanted to make SuperNova Elite, so I re-mortgaged my house".
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07-15-2014 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pirahn
Thinking out aloud so please dont everybody bite my head off. I dont really take too much notice of the challenges but after reading posts i had a quick view and some are uninspiring/dubious(did not know which word to use). poker in the uk is a game of equal chance. By attempting some of the challenges by definition it becomes a different game. I have been out of the gaming industry for a while so rules may have changed or maybe different for online gaming. This has the hallmark of one day some guy losing all his money and mind and sues claiming he was goaded into a particular way of playing giving him an unequal chance. People have gone to court with much less of an argument.
In my understanding this challenges are supposed to be achieved in the same amout of hands in the long run. It is your option to decide if you want to adapt to some kind of specific challange, it's not mandatory or implying you to do.
Such as it's your option to play more a range of hands then another.
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07-15-2014 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UnibetAndrew
The projection was 16,273. You were 22% through so that's 3,580.06. But the missing part is the difficulty increase. The frequency with which we expect these to hit has risen by 37.21%. So we multiplied 3,580.06 by 0.3721 to get 1,332 which is what we see here.

Good idea re tickets, I'll suggest it. We're also going to make expired tickets disappear sooner so that it's easier to see what's happening. We weren't really expecting to have players on 30+ tickets, but my Challenges design ended up giving us those situations. We need a better solution to tickets, this suggestion sounds like a good step in the right direction.
Thanks Andrew, it all makes sense now. Adrian
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07-15-2014 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chojin
In my understanding this challenges are supposed to be achieved in the same amout of hands in the long run. It is your option to decide if you want to adapt to some kind of specific challange, it's not mandatory or implying you to do.

Such as it's your option to play more a range of hands then another.
I wanted to avoid people trying to game them too much. One of the ways we do that is to split between minor and major Challenges. It's bad to change your entire way of playing because it can only help for 50% of your points.
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07-15-2014 , 10:47 AM
I see what you mean. Honestly I can't spot any that could make you play really different.
On the other hand I do think that there are some that can be exploitable in a positive way by the client.
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07-15-2014 , 11:27 AM
Hi Andrew,

I really like the new poker client, the challenges and missions give you something to aim for and they seem balanced well, so even new players can get a prize of some kind and bigger goals for pokerholics to aim for.

A couple of minor issues.

1.
In tournaments people can appear sat out, but when you call/raise they suddenly are not sat out any more, I think if someone is sat out once the cards are dealt, they should stay sat out. Sometimes you will bet to steal and then they appear.

2.
The tourneys not updating unless you refresh it, its a bit annoying sometimes.(A mini fix for this is to open a second tourney lobby and click between the 2 to refresh, better than returning to the main screen)

3.
The tourney list flickers about sometimes(think its loading). Once the client crashed on me when it was near the prize money, So I restarted clicked what I thought was the freeroll and clicked on open table without looking properly, I in fact had just registered myself for the 50 UO. (always double check what i am clicking now, as there is no confirm button)

Suggestions

1.
I would like to see a UO type ladder for cash, Same structure as the UO but with the final being the same odds as winning the satellites (Approx 6-1) So 2-10-50-250-1250 and the same kind of set up of the other satellite types.

2.
To replace the registration bonus(because I really liked filling that green bar) A similar thing that unlocks say an avatar when it fills, but for grinders you have the option of continuing instead of collecting the avatar to a bigger prize. This way rec players can get some fun stuff that doesn't cost you much and pokerholics can aim for the tickets at there playing level. Once you collect a prize you start from the beginning again.

3.
Somebody mentioned physical prizes i.e. T-shirts, hats etc., you mentioned the warehousing cost and distribution as a problem, I used to be a warehouse manager and think the costs would a lot less than you think, pm me if you would like to know rough prices for the UK, because I think physical prizes are good for advertising and good for rewarding people.

Keep up the good work on here and Unibet poker, I find your poker the most fun to play of all the ones I have tried.
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07-15-2014 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jonny2192
I really like the new poker client, the challenges and missions give you something to aim for and they seem balanced well, so even new players can get a prize of some kind and bigger goals for pokerholics to aim for.
Cool, I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it.

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Originally Posted by jonny2192
1. In tournaments people can appear sat out, but when you call/raise they suddenly are not sat out any more, I think if someone is sat out once the cards are dealt, they should stay sat out. Sometimes you will bet to steal and then they appear.
I haven't heard of this one. I wonder if this is an artefact of an earlier bug fix - we used to have it so that if you were sat out at the start of the tourney hand you stayed sat out, but a LOT of people objected. Perhaps when we fixed it, it was only fixed for the player who sat back in. I'll investigate.

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2. The tourneys not updating unless you refresh it, its a bit annoying sometimes.(A mini fix for this is to open a second tourney lobby and click between the 2 to refresh, better than returning to the main screen)
This is definitely a bug, and one I want to fix. Hopefully it will be soon.

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3.The tourney list flickers about sometimes(think its loading). Once the client crashed on me when it was near the prize money, So I restarted clicked what I thought was the freeroll and clicked on open table without looking properly, I in fact had just registered myself for the 50 UO. (always double check what i am clicking now, as there is no confirm button)
Agree - we've had a couple of these. I'll suggest it.

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Originally Posted by jonny2192
1. I would like to see a UO type ladder for cash, Same structure as the UO but with the final being the same odds as winning the satellites (Approx 6-1) So 2-10-50-250-1250 and the same kind of set up of the other satellite types.
I like this. People have done similar before with steps, normally with SNG. Of course, we also have similar with satellites to things like the Saturday Stack. But making a structured format like this where you just win cash at each stage - could be quite fun. I think the downside is that you'll get the serious sharks coming in when you have €1,250 buyin tourneys. I don't think we're ready for that kind of level at the moment. There's no reason we can't go smaller though.

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2. To replace the registration bonus(because I really liked filling that green bar) A similar thing that unlocks say an avatar when it fills, but for grinders you have the option of continuing instead of collecting the avatar to a bigger prize. This way rec players can get some fun stuff that doesn't cost you much and pokerholics can aim for the tickets at there playing level. Once you collect a prize you start from the beginning again.
I like this too. The progress meter has turned up a couple of times in this thread - it wasn't something that we thought people would like in and of itself.

One of our original ideas involved earning levels via achievements, and unlocking things via that. I don't think we're doing achievements very well at the moment (it's kind of generic), and part of the reason is that we just went with something a bit more cut down to make it all easier to understand.

We've already loaded up the development queue with the major features we want for the next 3 months or so. But after that, I'd definitely like to add some form of progress meter like this. It'll need some figuring out I think.

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3. Somebody mentioned physical prizes i.e. T-shirts, hats etc., you mentioned the warehousing cost and distribution as a problem, I used to be a warehouse manager and think the costs would a lot less than you think, pm me if you would like to know rough prices for the UK, because I think physical prizes are good for advertising and good for rewarding people.
We've had physical goods before - a lot of the expense comes from shipping costs as we've got players from quite a lot of places. I like the idea of just having t-shirts/caps/decks of cards maybe. Perhaps we could somehow combine the last two ideas. There's no reason we can't have different progress bars for different countries.

So for example, we could have a UK progress bar each quarter as a kind of low-stakes loyalty scheme. It'd take the place of some of the bottom end of Challenges, and it'd award avatars, backgrounds, a t-shirt, that kind of thing. Then the one in, say, Germany where we wouldn't have a warehouse - that'd just do the avatars & backgrounds.

That isn't to say we'll actually DO any of this. But it's something for me to think about for the future. I definitely see merit in these kinds of ideas.
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07-15-2014 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetAndrew
Sure, done. I assume you wanted SNG based on prior play, let me know if not.
50e unibet qualifier please, can u make it 30 days expiration date tyty
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07-15-2014 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CirtogC
50e unibet qualifier please, can u make it 30 days expiration date tyty
Ok, done. Good luck!
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07-15-2014 , 12:13 PM
Hi Andrew,

Bad news, our hungarian government started to block Unibet. We can't reach site and can't login to the poker client. Are you planning to do something to we can keep playing on Unibet?
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07-15-2014 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jonny2192 View Post
1. I would like to see a UO type ladder for cash, Same structure as the UO but with the final being the same odds as winning the satellites (Approx 6-1) So 2-10-50-250-1250 and the same kind of set up of the other satellite types.

I like this. People have done similar before with steps, normally with SNG. Of course, we also have similar with satellites to things like the Saturday Stack. But making a structured format like this where you just win cash at each stage - could be quite fun. I think the downside is that you'll get the serious sharks coming in when you have €1,250 buyin tourneys. I don't think we're ready for that kind of level at the moment. There's no reason we can't go smaller though.
I was thinking more
2 euro buy in wins 10 euro ticket or 1 to 5
10 euro ticket wins 50 euro ticket or 5 to 25
50 euro ticket wins 250 euro ticket or 25 to 125
250 euro ticket is the final game with 1250 cash prize. or 125 to 625

I know its very similar to the SNG steps, but i much prefer it as a MTT, I never really liked the SNG steps, but with all the free 2 euro tickets you gave away for playing 10 flops the other month, I had a lot of goes at the UO and found them fun to play.

I am not a very good player but I found it a lot easier to ladder up on the UO MTT than I ever had on a SNG step.(Won at least 8 x10 euro tickets, 4 x50 euro, and finally last night I won my first 250 euro ticket) Plus the 50 euro tickets really boost the challenge points.

In my opinion a rec player has a better chance of winning a ticket from 6 tickets in a pool of 36 players, than playing for 1 ticket in a pool of six players, but i could be wrong.

Last edited by jonny2192; 07-15-2014 at 12:41 PM. Reason: mistype
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