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03-22-2019 , 07:32 AM
Any plans about the Greek market?
I know already existed players can play but
at the moment you don't accept new acounts.
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03-22-2019 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nikos ath23
Any plans about the Greek market?
I know already existed players can play but
at the moment you don't accept new acounts.
As far as I'm aware, there are no changes in regard planned unfortunately
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03-22-2019 , 12:00 PM
I have noticed 2 issues with the mobile client

1. i get logged out with message "your session has been moved to another device", i need to close the client in order to be able to login again.

2. sometimes when i login i cannot access the tournament list.
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03-22-2019 , 04:32 PM


I just lost HU SNG €25 and HU SNG €50 because of this... Where should I write for a compensation?
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03-23-2019 , 03:17 PM
Sefero runs like god so you were going to lose anyway!
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03-23-2019 , 08:21 PM
Do you charge 1% rake rounded up??

A lot of pots you win are small (often 0.22 €) and having to pay 0.01€ of that in rake adds up.
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03-23-2019 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by carl_sebastian
Do you charge 1% rake rounded up??

A lot of pots you win are small (often 0.22 €) and having to pay 0.01€ of that in rake adds up.
Is this a level?

The rake on Unibet at 4NL is probably the lowest you'll find anywhere.
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03-24-2019 , 04:29 PM
Seems like unless you're playing with at least one complete whale at the table that 25NL rake is unbeatable on Unibet. 3 euro rake cap just seems crazy, sorry guys.
Someone let Davitsche know, think he's been struggling at this stake for a long time.

Last edited by mrno1324; 03-24-2019 at 04:30 PM. Reason: words
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03-24-2019 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
Someone let Davitsche know, think he's been struggling at this stake for a long time.
Don't know if youre just being sarcastic but it's more likely he just sucks.
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03-24-2019 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Don't know if youre just being sarcastic but it's more likely he just sucks.
100% serious, haven't watched him in a long time but he'd always seem in a lot of pain from playing that game and it's not his fault. He's not exactly Linus but he should def be able to win at 25NL.
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03-24-2019 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KrustyTheClown
The rake on Unibet at 4NL is probably the lowest you'll find anywhere.
Well a swedish site i have been playing on charges 2.7% rake rounded to 0.01 sek.

It seams like unibet still ****s nl4 players by rounding up the rake so on average you pay maybe 2.5% instead of the advertised 1%.
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03-24-2019 , 07:24 PM
+1 to the rake at 25NL and 50NL being bad for bankroll growth or "upward mobility". (It's why so many regs get "stuck" at 10NL.)
I don't think 25NL is "unbeatable", but that rake is brutal. Unibet's revenues might actually go up if they gave an incentive for players to move from 10NL to 25NL (where it's barely worth playing). Andrew West talked about it years ago. There were lots of promos and free tickets for 4NL, so traffic there was always decent, but little incentive to actually move up, apart from the occasional (and brilliant) "Moving Up" promo. That said, I haven't looked to see what the traffic is like at 25 and 50 recently. Is it still dead at certain times of day?
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03-24-2019 , 07:27 PM
25NL is completely dead during euro nights, don't know if it's always been like that
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03-24-2019 , 07:33 PM
Also maybe Unibet will eventually listen and crack down on ratholing. Few things worse for the game as a reg than a 50bb guy doubling up through you, leaving, and then sitting back down with 50bb.
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03-25-2019 , 04:08 PM
Hi, any chance I could get a 50 euro ticket extended? User is Equilibrium42
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03-26-2019 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by carl_sebastian
I have noticed 2 issues with the mobile client

1. i get logged out with message "your session has been moved to another device", i need to close the client in order to be able to login again.

2. sometimes when i login i cannot access the tournament list.
Hi,
sorry to hear you have issues with our mobile app.

1. This error usually appears when you switch from Desktop to mobile for example or the other way around, or possibly being logged to the web version.

Did this error just show up for you for no reason? Could you specify a bit please.

2. We have some issues with the tournament monitor, might have to do with it, it's being worked on and should hopefully improve soon, a restart should usually fix it temporarily.

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I just lost HU SNG €25 and HU SNG €50 because of this... Where should I write for a compensation?
That is a very odd one, could you please send me a PM with the details (timeframe or ideally tournament IDs). It looks like you played from the browser version, in case you played from desktop, I would also need your poker_log file please.

I will then investigate further and also forward it to our devs to look at.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused

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Originally Posted by carl_sebastian
Do you charge 1% rake rounded up??

A lot of pots you win are small (often 0.22 €) and having to pay 0.01€ of that in rake adds up.
That depends on the numbers after the decimals, if 1% equals 0.136€, it would be rounded up.

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Hi, any chance I could get a 50 euro ticket extended? User is Equilibrium42
I have extended your ticket, should be more than enough now to use it.

Thanks
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03-26-2019 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetPatric
Hi,
sorry to hear you have issues with our mobile app.

1. This error usually appears when you switch from Desktop to mobile for example or the other way around, or possibly being logged to the web version.

Did this error just show up for you for no reason? Could you specify a bit please.
I get that when i haven't been using the app for a while even though i never logged in to the desktop app. Playing on LG G4.

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Hi,
That depends on the numbers after the decimals, if 1% equals 0.136€, it would be rounded up.
I checked hand history and it seams like when 1% is 0.0022 it's rounded up to 0.01
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03-26-2019 , 02:45 PM
@carl_sebastian @unibetpatric tested it out and can confirm that for anything under 1cent it is NOT based on the decimals, an 8 cent pot will be raked a 1 cent, which obviously is huge, but, well, you should never be in this situation in a cashgame if you're any sort of decent. So the impact of this rounding should be less than it appears from this extreme example, still, any pot under 50 cents gets raked more than the advertised 1%.

That being said I compared the numbers of someone with a lot of volume, at nl4 1% rake and nl10 3% rake, and it seems the adjusted for the stake (nl10 divided by 2.5) rake per hand paid by that person is a bit over double at 10NL so that means that the real 4nl rake is somewhere under 1.5% still extremely good compared to competitors. Also the bottom tier rakeback not including missions and stuff that target the same population are better in % than the mid tier ones that would be at 10Nl for example.

This is just based on one person's stats, idk how accurate they are, also rake depends on playstyle. I'm sure unibet has ways to see how much actually gets raked at the tables with better accuracy.

Last edited by NMPfan; 03-26-2019 at 02:59 PM.
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03-26-2019 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetPatric
I have extended your ticket, should be more than enough now to use it.

Thanks

Thanks, as usual great service. Can the ticket be redeemed for cash or not anymore? Or PLO tickets?
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03-26-2019 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NMPfan
@carl_sebastian @unibetpatric tested it out and can confirm that for anything under 1cent it is NOT based on the decimals, an 8 cent pot will be raked a 1 cent, which obviously is huge, but, well, you should never be in this situation in a cashgame if you're any sort of decent. So the impact of this rounding should be less than it appears from this extreme example, still, any pot under 50 cents gets raked more than the advertised 1%.

That being said I compared the numbers of someone with a lot of volume, at nl4 1% rake and nl10 3% rake, and it seems the adjusted for the stake (nl10 divided by 2.5) rake per hand paid by that person is a bit over double at 10NL so that means that the real 4nl rake is somewhere under 1.5% still extremely good compared to competitors. Also the bottom tier rakeback not including missions and stuff that target the same population are better in % than the mid tier ones that would be at 10Nl for example.

This is just based on one person's stats, idk how accurate they are, also rake depends on playstyle. I'm sure unibet has ways to see how much actually gets raked at the tables with better accuracy.
Unibet makes everyone else look bad when it comes to microstakes, unfortunately they are not good for low volume high stake players.

I guess the actual rake you pay at NL4 is about 1.7% with rakeback, i should be able to beat that now even against a tougher feild, most players at NL4 are pretty good but i have noticed common flaws in how most regs play.

There are still reasons not to choose unibet for NL4
-you use a HUD to gain unfair advantage against fishes and bumhunt.
-you want to play heads up.
-softer playerpool elsewhere.

But i have never used a hud myself (no low rake site i know of allow it). I am not into bumhunting either, i want to be able to win against regs.
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03-26-2019 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NMPfan
@carl_sebastian @unibetpatric tested it out and can confirm that for anything under 1cent it is NOT based on the decimals, an 8 cent pot will be raked a 1 cent, which obviously is huge, but, well, you should never be in this situation in a cashgame if you're any sort of decent.
FWIW, a couple of years ago I was using a limping strat in the SB at 10NL on Unibet. I played a lot of small pots, and it was rather annoying seeng how much rake was taken from them. (e.g. limp pre for 5 more cents, check it down and chop the pot, but still lose 20% of what I voluntarily put in the pot). Thus, I abandoned the limping strat. For all I know, the same thing happens on Stars, but auto-top up conceals it. (On Unibet, you can't help but notice when your stacksize drops to 9.99 even when you chop a tiny pot).
I think the rake at 4NL and 10NL is still reasonable though. I paid less rake per 100 hands than I did on Stars, despite seeing more flops. 4NL on Unibet remains very beatable (it's much softer than Stars 2NLz, for example).
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03-26-2019 , 07:10 PM
"I guess the actual rake you pay at NL4 is about 1.7% with rakeback" rakeback decreases the effective rake paid, it doesn't increase it. Rakeback will depend on the volume tho, super low volume 4nl players actually get rewards much higher than the rake they pay over the various promos . I agree about low volume high stakes players not getting too much back, they do have the Double Trouble's to get some money back when they have a losing week tho.

@ArtyMcFly isn't a SB limping strat impossible to implement umm, more profitably than a raising strategy (as a general strategy, not just exceptions) on any site on stakes under 100NL, maybe even higher? Am I wrong about this? I think rake is one of the big factors that make cash game and tournament strategy so different even with similar effective stacks.

Last edited by NMPfan; 03-26-2019 at 07:24 PM.
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03-27-2019 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by carl_sebastian
I get that when i haven't been using the app for a while even though i never logged in to the desktop app. Playing on LG G4.


I checked hand history and it seams like when 1% is 0.0022 it's rounded up to 0.01
Regarding your mobile issue, I will ask to get it investigated and if it's possible to duplicate.

Whenever a flop is reached, rake will be taken, so yes as NMPfan said, any pot under a certain amount will have more than 1% rake, I'm not sure what the average pot looks like in NL4 but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't happen too often, together with our promotions and loyalty system we should still be the lowest rakers for NL4 industry wide.

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Thanks, as usual great service. Can the ticket be redeemed for cash or not anymore? Or PLO tickets?
No, we stopped exchanging tickets whatsoever, extending as goodwill is still doable to a certain extend.
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03-27-2019 , 09:44 PM
id just like to congratulate you on a great promo with the high hand (+50bb) thought it was a really great idea and was an added touch when you make a high hand.

I think the high stakes leader board needs tweaking, its super hard to get into the top 10 leader board as a PLO player as NL games run much more frequently. IMO you should widen the leader board to 20 places and not make it so front heavy.
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03-27-2019 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NMPfan
@ArtyMcFly isn't a SB limping strat impossible to implement umm, more profitably than a raising strategy (as a general strategy, not just exceptions) on any site on stakes under 100NL, maybe even higher? Am I wrong about this? I think rake is one of the big factors that make cash game and tournament strategy so different even with similar effective stacks.
Yes, I came to that conclusion some time ago (it was an interesting experiment that must have cost me upwards of $3.50 in EV), although I think Snowie still likes limping the SB at 50NL/100NL. (It limps less often in the micros, presumably because the rake is so high).
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