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Old 02-20-2015, 05:13 AM   #1
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Edit/MH: Posts moved from old Seals With Clubs thread.

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Update on Seals site.

TL;DR: SealsWithClubs will not come back with his current team, you gotta withdraw. Micon will start swcpoker.eu with that new software though.

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... is there a guide or some step-by-step advice for someone who is a complete bitcoin noob, but wants another option to play some poker in the US?
Logical question. No one is born knowing this stuff. Standby...
  • create an account at swcpoker. no ID required. email address required
  • play freerolls
  • download a free Bitcoin wallet, Electrum or Multibit
  • look at localbitcoins.com for a dealer near you. pay cash
  • and/or sign up with ID and bank account to buy bitcoins at at circle.com or coinbase.com
  • avoid sending Bitcoins directly to/from circle or coinbase, send to your wallet first, they like to avoid "gambling" sites, don't force them

after you do it, you will feel like a genius

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Old 02-20-2015, 08:05 AM   #2
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Re: Seals With Clubs-Bitcoin poker room

I requested my cashout with 2fa and got it almost immediately; just now.

They have been really legit; sad to see them go. Really curious what the deal was..

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Loyal players,

Effective immediately, SealsWithClubs will cease providing Bitcoin poker and will be shutting down all operations except to allow player funds to be withdrawn for a limited period of time. SealsWithClubs is, and has been, completely solvent up to this point in operations.

WE URGE ALL PLAYERS TO WITHDRAW THEIR FUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. PLAYERS SHOULD CEASE ALL ACTIVITY TO THEIR ACCOUNT DEPOSIT ADDRESSSES NOW.

On approximately February 11th, 2015, several events occurred related to operational security that we consider to indicate SealsWithClubs now operates in a perpetual state of jeopardy. We will not divulge details publically, but they may come to light if any team member chooses to come forward of their own volition at a later date. All player funds and data remain intact and the issue was not software related. We do not believe any of our Bitcoin wallets used in operations to be compromised or lost. However, this event has made the majority vote of the ownership and team agree that shutting down operations is the best move for safety and security purposes.

SealsWithClubs Chairman, Bryan Micon, would like to carry forward the business with his own team (currently settling in Antigua) but the majority ownership cannot guarantee the future security, solvency, and integrity of that operation because there will be no administrative oversight carried over from SealsWithClubs. Members of the SealsWithClubs team and ownership are not ones to lightly endorse anything, not even our own longstanding trustworthy team members, which is why nobody ever makes a sole decision. This dynamic has saved the business several times throughout the years. With Micon operating on his own with his own team, the checks and balances we have kept in place against one another internally for 3+ years will have been removed.

As the majority ownership & team will not go forward with operations but Micon is still in a position to do so, it makes the most sense to hand off assets to Micon in order to enable him to provide to our players the best Bitcoin poker experience he can. Micon has been extremely enthusiastic and dedicated to SealsWithClubs for longer than any member of SealsWithClubs historically, and we truly believe he wants what's best for its players.

We've made considerable effort and expense on a SwC 2.0 software package over an extended period of time; we are transferring the rights to that package in full to Micon with the understanding he will remain faithful to the revenue share and licensing agreement SealsWithClubs had with its primary developer(s) that continue work on it. We suspect that the primary developer(s) behind that project will gladly continue working with Micon. Micon will also be provided the swcpoker.eu domain from which we were planning to continue operations from once SwC 2.0 was ready to deploy. As such, we believe Micon will have the resources at his disposal to bring the new site up, backed by the new SwC 2.0 software package, at a rapid pace.

The traditional SwC 1.0 clients and server, based upon the PokerMavens server/client software and protocol, will be retired. There are a number of operational and security considerations to the SwC 1.0 architecture that we do not feel could be properly documented and conveyed to any new team for further operations or development. At this time, those available must focus our efforts elsewhere.

While the majority ownership and team wish the best for Micon and his operation, we prioritize remaining faithful to our player's balances and security first and foremost. The ****************** domain, related social media accounts and support e-mail addresses (for the duration they are still active and being checked) will solely be used for administrating and paying out all remaining player withdrawal requests. In the event the domain is seized or the current withdrawal server is made inoperational during the period withdrawals are still being administrated, a signed GPG message from hdev or xdev will provide definitive instructions for players to continue making withdrawal requests assuming we are still available and able to draft such a message. Any unsigned or invalidly signed instructions by others should not be considered legitimate.

Please note that withdrawals will only be open for a limited period of time and be solely administrated by those uninvolved with Micon's new operation who have been charged historically with maintaining SealsWithClubs solvency. Those able to stick around to process these withdrawals are hoping to commit to at least a few months of availability. We hope that this is sufficient in allowing all players to make their appropriate claims to their funds before they are made unavailable; in addition, we hope our players will do their part by spreading the word.

In line with remaining faithful to player security, we will not be providing Micon or his team with account passwords or authentication information or balance details. We will provide to him account names and the current e-mail addresses associated with them, as well as the krill amount associated to each account. This should allow his team, if they choose, to reserve usernames and e-mail password resets to users as well as honor their Krill amounts. Micon will also be provided the current e-mail address and account names of any affiliate accounts and the accounts associated under them so that he can choose to remain true to the affiliates in the affiliate program that he pioneered through the years for SealsWithClubs.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN EMAIL ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR ACCOUNT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CLAIM YOUR KRILL AT SWCPOKER.EU IN THE FUTURE. YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO ADD OR CHANGE IT NOW USING THE FORM BELOW.

I reiterate for emphasis: Micon nor his team have not and will not be provided access to SealsWithClubs player funds or account credentials at any time. This limitation is not placed in order to hinder Micon or his operation, but rather, to remain true to the SealsWithClubs administration's commitment to player security and balance integrity to the very end.

Thank you to all of our players for your support, trust, loyalty and enthusiasm throughout the years. We know that cryptocurrency poker is here to stay and it saddens us all to be in a position that we can no longer reliably be the ones to provide it to you.

Seals Administration
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:45 AM   #3
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Latest tweets. Sounds like SwCPoker will be okay. If I understand it correctly Micon will have an interview with "RemkoMedia" (PokerNews or igaming.org) about it too.

Bryan Micon @BryanMicon
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RIP @SealsWithClubs https://******************/ (was a good run IMO)

Bitcoin Poker 2.0 --> @SwCPoker <-- (coming soon)
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@SwoopAE I think we are all sad to see @SealsWithClubs shut down. It was ethical, low rake, fairly run.

And @swcpoker will be better
https://twitter.com/BryanMicon/with_replies

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Old 02-20-2015, 05:00 PM   #4
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Re: Seals With Clubs-Bitcoin poker room

Micon posted that the new site, with a slightly new name and url will be up in a few days.

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RIP ******************

Rising from the ashes, like a brilliant degenerate phoenix, is SwCPoker.eu!




1) Please cash out all balances from ******************
2) Balances are fully available for withdraw, users have reported a consistant flow of cashouts.
3) Seriously, please go now and withdraw your full SealsWithClubs balance if you haven't already.
4) SwCPoker.eu will launch in a few days.
5) @SwCPoker on twatter
6) Please add an email to your account on ****************** if you'd like your krill and don't currently have an email attached to your account.
7) All krill will be honored at the same rakeback rates of SealsWithClubs on SwCPoker.
Cool We will launch with the non-mavens Bitcoin poker 2.0 product as soon as we feel secure enough to do so.

Thanks very much for the outpouring of love and offers to work for me. I am truly honored by the support. Many humans have been assembled to reboot. We have not slept much and are working quite hard.

No Sleep 'Till Bitcoin

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Best guess ETA is a few days.

See you then!
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Old 02-20-2015, 07:55 PM   #5
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Re: Seals With Clubs-Bitcoin poker room

For those that can't load the website, this was posted today:

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2015-02-20

Loyal players,

Effective immediately, SealsWithClubs will cease providing Bitcoin poker and will be shutting down all operations except to allow player funds to be withdrawn for a limited period of time. SealsWithClubs is, and has been, completely solvent up to this point in operations.

WE URGE ALL PLAYERS TO WITHDRAW THEIR FUNDS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. PLAYERS SHOULD CEASE ALL ACTIVITY TO THEIR ACCOUNT DEPOSIT ADDRESSSES NOW.

On approximately February 11th, 2015, several events occurred related to operational security that we consider to indicate SealsWithClubs now operates in a perpetual state of jeopardy. We will not divulge details publically, but they may come to light if any team member chooses to come forward of their own volition at a later date. All player funds and data remain intact and the issue was not software related. We do not believe any of our Bitcoin wallets used in operations to be compromised or lost. However, this event has made the majority vote of the ownership and team agree that shutting down operations is the best move for safety and security purposes.

SealsWithClubs Chairman, Bryan Micon, would like to carry forward the business with his own team (currently settling in Antigua) but the majority ownership cannot guarantee the future security, solvency, and integrity of that operation because there will be no administrative oversight carried over from SealsWithClubs. Members of the SealsWithClubs team and ownership are not ones to lightly endorse anything, not even our own longstanding trustworthy team members, which is why nobody ever makes a sole decision. This dynamic has saved the business several times throughout the years. With Micon operating on his own with his own team, the checks and balances we have kept in place against one another internally for 3+ years will have been removed.

As the majority ownership & team will not go forward with operations but Micon is still in a position to do so, it makes the most sense to hand off assets to Micon in order to enable him to provide to our players the best Bitcoin poker experience he can. Micon has been extremely enthusiastic and dedicated to SealsWithClubs for longer than any member of SealsWithClubs historically, and we truly believe he wants what's best for its players.

We've made considerable effort and expense on a SwC 2.0 software package over an extended period of time; we are transferring the rights to that package in full to Micon with the understanding he will remain faithful to the revenue share and licensing agreement SealsWithClubs had with its primary developer(s) that continue work on it. We suspect that the primary developer(s) behind that project will gladly continue working with Micon. Micon will also be provided the swcpoker.eu domain from which we were planning to continue operations from once SwC 2.0 was ready to deploy. As such, we believe Micon will have the resources at his disposal to bring the new site up, backed by the new SwC 2.0 software package, at a rapid pace.

The traditional SwC 1.0 clients and server, based upon the PokerMavens server/client software and protocol, will be retired. There are a number of operational and security considerations to the SwC 1.0 architecture that we do not feel could be properly documented and conveyed to any new team for further operations or development. At this time, those available must focus our efforts elsewhere.

While the majority ownership and team wish the best for Micon and his operation, we prioritize remaining faithful to our player's balances and security first and foremost. The SealsWithClubs.eu domain, related social media accounts and support e-mail addresses (for the duration they are still active and being checked) will solely be used for administrating and paying out all remaining player withdrawal requests. In the event the domain is seized or the current withdrawal server is made inoperational during the period withdrawals are still being administrated, a signed GPG message from hdev or xdev will provide definitive instructions for players to continue making withdrawal requests assuming we are still available and able to draft such a message. Any unsigned or invalidly signed instructions by others should not be considered legitimate.

Please note that withdrawals will only be open for a limited period of time and be solely administrated by those uninvolved with Micon's new operation who have been charged historically with maintaining SealsWithClubs solvency. Those able to stick around to process these withdrawals are hoping to commit to at least a few months of availability. We hope that this is sufficient in allowing all players to make their appropriate claims to their funds before they are made unavailable; in addition, we hope our players will do their part by spreading the word.

In line with remaining faithful to player security, we will not be providing Micon or his team with account passwords or authentication information or balance details. We will provide to him account names and the current e-mail addresses associated with them, as well as the krill amount associated to each account. This should allow his team, if they choose, to reserve usernames and e-mail password resets to users as well as honor their Krill amounts. Micon will also be provided the current e-mail address and account names of any affiliate accounts and the accounts associated under them so that he can choose to remain true to the affiliates in the affiliate program that he pioneered through the years for SealsWithClubs.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE AN EMAIL ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR ACCOUNT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CLAIM YOUR KRILL AT SWCPOKER.EU IN THE FUTURE. YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO ADD OR CHANGE IT NOW USING THE FORM BELOW.

I reiterate for emphasis: Micon nor his team have not and will not be provided access to SealsWithClubs player funds or account credentials at any time. This limitation is not placed in order to hinder Micon or his operation, but rather, to remain true to the SealsWithClubs administration's commitment to player security and balance integrity to the very end.

Thank you to all of our players for your support, trust, loyalty and enthusiasm throughout the years. We know that cryptocurrency poker is here to stay and it saddens us all to be in a position that we can no longer reliably be the ones to provide it to you.

Seals Administration
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Old 02-24-2015, 02:19 AM   #6
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This is what it says for the new SwCPoker.eu
http://swcpoker.eu/?page_id=12

No ID required. An email address is required. That works for me. I will be there.
So I now have to give an email when registering?
Yup you now have to give an email when registering. Any email. Just get an email and you can have an SwCPoker account. The old way was just too hard, too scam-attracting. This is why we cannot have nice things.

Do you require my dox?
We here at SwCPoker flatly reject the idea that an online poker room should require your personal information. We believe the online poker experience should be similar to a live cardroom, whereby players can buy chips, play, and cash out anonymously. By using bitcoin, SwCPoker can securely, anonymously and quickly process chip transactions without requiring any documentation.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:33 PM   #7
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Tomorrow Is The Day
February 26, 2015

2/26/2015 Bitcoin Poker 2.0 Drops #SwCReboot
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It is noon in Antigua, and Micon posted that they plan to open "in the late afternoon local Antigua time" so that might be in about 5 hours from now.
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:11 PM   #9
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‏@SwCPoker about 10 mins ago...

In a few hours, @SwCPoker will launch w/micro-limit games & small freerolls If anything breaks msg support@swcpoker.eu & we'll make it right
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Old 02-26-2015, 02:55 PM   #10
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‏@SwCPoker about 10 mins ago...

In a few hours, @SwCPoker will launch w/micro-limit games & small freerolls If anything breaks msg support@swcpoker.eu & we'll make it right
3, 2, 1, soon will have liftoff. Great day for SwC players and the pursuit of freedom to play where one desires.Sad day for the hatemonger troll.

Congrats to Micon and ST7 on a job well done.

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Old 02-26-2015, 03:06 PM   #11
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Do we have iphone client?
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Do we have iphone client?
From what I heard before from Micon, there will be no iPhone support since Apple hates btc
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:07 PM   #13
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‏@SwCPoker about 10 mins ago...

In a few hours, @SwCPoker will launch w/micro-limit games & small freerolls If anything breaks msg support@swcpoker.eu & we'll make it right
Small. Micro. Breaks.

Sure sounds like the confident steps of a big-time operation ready for prime time!

Anyone say 'beta'?
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:28 PM   #14
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From what I heard before from Micon, there will be no iPhone support since Apple hates btc
Let me rephrase.. will there be a browser based version that will run in safari without Silverlight? "iphone"
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:59 PM   #15
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Is the download link on same place as previous site ?
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Let me rephrase.. will there be a browser based version that will run in safari without Silverlight? "iphone"
Why not email their support: support@swcpoker.eu.

Hopefully they should be manning it by now.
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Old 02-26-2015, 05:26 PM   #17
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It will be a race to see who is playing at SWCpoker first,old LEW or zeckoriver,lol
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Let me rephrase.. will there be a browser based version that will run in safari without Silverlight? "iphone"
Why not email their support: support@swcpoker.eu.

Hopefully they should be manning it by now.
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Small. Micro. Breaks.

Sure sounds like the confident steps of a big-time operation ready for prime time!

Anyone say 'beta'?
Yes, by all means, let's just launch the site all at once. Nothing could possibly go wrong!

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Let me rephrase.. will there be a browser based version that will run in safari without Silverlight? "iphone"
My understanding is not immediately. The old Grid software was Windows download only, and they're not done with the web version yet.
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Let me rephrase.. will there be a browser based version that will run in safari without Silverlight? "iphone"
PC only for right now.

The last I saw a couple days ago someone asked and he said browser would come eventually and likely be html5.
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Old 02-26-2015, 05:59 PM   #21
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It's up. I'm scared to be the first person to install it though...
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:10 PM   #22
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Works fine. To get your old account: do "Forgot password" and stuff then look at the spam/junk folder (obv only if you had email connected.)
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Works fine. To get your old account: do "Forgot password" and stuff then look at the spam/junk folder (obv only if you had email connected.)
post the download link pleasenico you have to do forgot password to get your old account back?
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Old 02-26-2015, 06:25 PM   #24
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It's on http://swcpoker.eu/pc-client/ Yeh gotta do forgot password / reset code thing on the PC client.
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How do I find my user id number? Is it screen name or isp? Think its old screen name. im in ty

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