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05-23-2019 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AllJackedUp
FYP

I think we only played HU on my Ruckuss account. And I hate to derail your whole thing rn, but OBVIOUSLY I wasn't a big multiaccounter as I was constantly on that account. However, that is one of the MAIN attractions of the site. And FYI moron, Accounts were frequently sold, bought, traded and loaned in the past. People used to pay good money for Krill accounts. But you're another ****ing imbecile whom I'm forced to educate on wtf they're talking about so you probably don't know that.
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05-23-2019 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AllJackedUp
[x] Self-excludes and then gets angry when site won't let him play
[x] Admitted multi-accounter
[x] Admits to selling one of his multi-accounts
[x] Verbally abuses others in chat
[x] says he's done nothing wrong

FWIW, I've had nothing but positive experiences with staff at SWC.
Your only legit point also happens to be the most important. Multi-accounting is allowed. Selling accounts was allowed when he sold it. Chat box is about 25% random “chat regs” verbally abusing others or each other.

But the one legit point is that once you ask for a lifetime ban from the site, it would be unethical for swc not to IP-block him. I’m not sure what the self-exclusion policy is.

I can’t imagine the person he asked to contact 2p2 on his behalf, w the request to have the “tilt-post” deleted, would be thrilled at all the flip-flopping. But he’s prob relieved to find the post had already been deleted before he tried to help SSpro and presumably, the site (if this was some deal to get chat back, in return for getting the post deleted).
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05-23-2019 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Hal N.
Thanks for posting SSP.

Can anyone comment on NitrogenSports management in comparison to SwC?

SwC is coming across as weak and unprofessional to be frank (based on web research and railing the chat).

I certainly want a site like SwC to succeed though!
Nitrogen is primarily a sports and casino site. The games are soft, just like swc. The rake is higher and there isn’t a wide selection of variants, bc of their focus on sports. They have a much larger promo budget, though much of their promos are spent on the casino players. The casino/sports makes them enough that they offer free rolls of $5k. The management obv consists of many more employees than a poker site w much fewer players and liquidity. It’s apples to oranges in a lot of ways, w BTC gambling as their shared genre, like you said.

There will prob always be more players logged into nitrogen and there will prob always be more poker games running on swc. I don’t think anybody really knows who operates swc, since Micon left.
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05-23-2019 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
Your only legit point also happens to be the most important. Multi-accounting is allowed. Selling accounts was allowed when he sold it. Chat box is about 25% random “chat regs” verbally abusing others or each other.
allowed =/= nothing wrong

25% random chat regs abusing others =/= nothing wrong
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05-23-2019 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hal N.
Can anyone comment on NitrogenSports management in comparison to SwC?
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
Nitrogen is primarily a sports and casino site. ...The management obv consists of many more employees than a poker site w much fewer players and liquidity.

I don’t think anybody really knows who operates swc, since Micon left.
Can anyone else comment on bitcoin poker site management? I don’t see a problem in using this thread to discuss (I won’t cry if told otherwise)...

To me, this is a major problem. I think in order for bitcoin poker to really take off we’ll need transparency and strong management teams (admirable people). My hat goes off to those who have put in work already, people like Micon, and I’m not taking any shots...I just want to start thinking about the next best move with you all.
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05-24-2019 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hal N.
Can anyone else comment on bitcoin poker site management? I don’t see a problem in using this thread to discuss (I won’t cry if told otherwise)...

To me, this is a major problem. I think in order for bitcoin poker to really take off we’ll need transparency and strong management teams (admirable people). My hat goes off to those who have put in work already, people like Micon, and I’m not taking any shots...I just want to start thinking about the next best move with you all.
Nitro management is basically incompetent. I tried over the course of like 10 emails/support tickets to explain to them how players were getting screwed by the rake... back when BTC was at 19k (effective rake was like $10 max at 25/50 cent plo tables)

They just didn't get it, or didn't care to.

Also their affiliate team doesn't even respond to people. I tried asking questions about people I had referred and they said contact affiliates@nitro or whatever, literally they never even responded after that.

On the other hand, SwC, though they make take some time, up to 1-2 weeks to get back to inquiries, have ALWAYS responded eventually, and done so in a professional manner.
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05-24-2019 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zplusz
Nitro management is basically incompetent. I tried over the course of like 10 emails/support tickets to explain to them how players were getting screwed by the rake... back when BTC was at 19k (effective rake was like $10 max at 25/50 cent plo tables)

They just didn't get it, or didn't care to.

Also their affiliate team doesn't even respond to people. I tried asking questions about people I had referred and they said contact affiliates@nitro or whatever, literally they never even responded after that.

On the other hand, SwC, though they make take some time, up to 1-2 weeks to get back to inquiries, have ALWAYS responded eventually, and done so in a professional manner.
Nitrogens management is not incompetent. They are a sportsbook that added poker as a side gig, they just don't care about poker. Why should they. They are a sportsbook.
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05-24-2019 , 04:49 PM
So why even add the poker room then if they don't care about it? I understand it's not their primary focus but they don't even make an EFFORT, is my point.
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05-24-2019 , 06:28 PM
thanks for your responses guys.
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05-25-2019 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by zplusz
So why even add the poker room then if they don't care about it? I understand it's not their primary focus but they don't even make an EFFORT, is my point.
You really can't figure this out, or are you levelling? They have poker for the same reasons B+M casinos often have poker rooms, many of which are run avg at best. They also run freerolls w few players and HUGE payouts. Also, fyi rake cap at swcpoker $30/$60 effective stakes fixed limit games I was playing in 2017 were up to $17/hand for months, until I emailed them and they replied that they would lower it the next day.

Nitrogen/Bovada/Ignition/ACR/Chico etc are hoping that when poker players (gamblers) deposit, they will also give casino/sports action. When poker games run, the house takes a small % of the pot (rake). When players play casino/sports and inevitably lose, the house takes ALL the revenue.

This isn't the NitrogenSPORTS.eu thread. I'm not even bothering to reply to Hal, w his questions "specifically about management" (who I suspect is the same guy that has posted in this thread under multiple accounts and is the notorious swcpoker multi-accounter we all love to hate). Some of us know who owns/operates swcpoker.eu and the vast majority of us don't.

Regardless, after a well-known Seal was charged and plead guilty for his role in marketing/operating swcpoker from Nevada, I have little doubt that if "Hal" plays online poker, uses BTC, and found this thread on 2+2, and still asks those questions - he is either a member of law enforcement or he wishes he were. I'd guess it's the latter
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05-25-2019 , 03:39 AM
This site is not a good place to play. It is a one sided party preying on ppl and taking their $ to fund their weed smoke and w/e cause they stand for. They will talk crap to you but chat ban you for talking back unless you stand for their cause. It doesn't end. I stand by my last deleted post here.
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05-25-2019 , 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
This isn't the NitrogenSPORTS.eu thread. I'm not even bothering to reply to Hal, w his questions "specifically about management" (who I suspect is the same guy that has posted in this thread under multiple accounts and is the notorious swcpoker multi-accounter we all love to hate). Some of us know who owns/operates swcpoker.eu and the vast majority of us don't.

Regardless, after a well-known Seal was charged and plead guilty for his role in marketing/operating swcpoker from Nevada, I have little doubt that if "Hal" plays online poker, uses BTC, and found this thread on 2+2, and still asks those questions - he is either a member of law enforcement or he wishes he were. I'd guess it's the latter
This is the type of unprofessional vibe I was picking up on from swc’s web presence.

In general, if you can’t even act professional...you certainly aren’t.

Like I said, the idea is to make the next best move regarding bitcoin poker.


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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
This site is not a good place to play. It is a one sided party preying on ppl and taking their $ to fund their weed smoke and w/e cause they stand for. They will talk crap to you but chat ban you for talking back unless you stand for their cause. It doesn't end. I stand by my last deleted post here.
Ok. The more info, the better. Thanks.

Still just a guy looking for a place to play run by professionals. That’s all.
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05-25-2019 , 10:12 AM
Sadly you aren't gonna find it on swc.
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05-25-2019 , 12:14 PM
all i know is site is very soft... i started small... 15k UBTC and am now playing 50/100 big bet and 200/400 FL and competition is still soft. I am enjoying it. Also they have big O which my other site doesnt :-)

Software is a little slow i think, hands per hour is low, unless its that many players that are slow.
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05-25-2019 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TS2
all i know is site is very soft... i started small... 15k UBTC and am now playing 50/100 big bet and 200/400 FL and competition is still soft. I am enjoying it. Also they have big O which my other site doesnt :-)

Software is a little slow i think, hands per hour is low, unless its that many players that are slow.
Think bigger picture though...

Imagine the games if a site appealed to the masses. Listen to what I am saying, it’s not just if you build it, they will come. It’s if you have something great, people will stay.

Look, I’m not here taking shots...just somebody, anybody pay attention to what I am saying. And do it.
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05-25-2019 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hal N.
This is the type of unprofessional vibe I was picking up on from swc’s web presence.

In general, if you can’t even act professional...you certainly aren’t.

Like I said, the idea is to make the next best move regarding bitcoin poker.




Ok. The more info, the better. Thanks.

Still just a guy looking for a place to play run by professionals. That’s all.
I sure as **** have nothing to do w managing swc . . . so I guess I’m off the hook w having to act “professional” lol
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05-26-2019 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunth0807
This site is not a good place to play. It is a one sided party preying on ppl and taking their $ to fund their weed smoke and w/e cause they stand for. They will talk crap to you but chat ban you for talking back unless you stand for their cause. It doesn't end. I stand by my last deleted post here.
+1!!

This site is CORRUPT and will rob you by any means necessary. DO NOT find out the hard way. SAY NO to SWC.
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05-26-2019 , 12:06 PM
The neverending stream of low post count, lack of evidence posters accusing of "something, vaguely wrong" is really putting the nail in the coffin that this is the best poker site around these days.

Longest existing BTC poker site.

You don't get ****ED when BTC rises and your bankroll is in dollars, cuz everything is BTC.

And the games, like it or not haters, are fair.
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05-26-2019 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zplusz
The neverending stream of low post count, lack of evidence posters accusing of "something, vaguely wrong" is really putting the nail in the coffin that this is the best poker site around these days.

Longest existing BTC poker site.

You don't get ****ED when BTC rises and your bankroll is in dollars, cuz everything is BTC.

And the games, like it or not haters, are fair.
I'm new here(~1mo) and only play small volume but I really like the site so far. Only complaint is not enough mid-hi stakes action. But I'm trying to do my part. If your reading this and thinking about joining please do. I dk what all the crazies are going off of in this thread.
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05-26-2019 , 06:51 PM
Collusion is rampant here and they do nothing to about it, but aside from that, the current games may be fair for the most part.

Although recently, one of their shills, "Gr00ves" got caught chopping action in a 4 person SNG and they did nothing about it.

The point is that the people that own, operate, and moderate this site have cheated, robbed and restricted players here in the past. What will stop them from doing it in the future.

LOL @ people saying this site is the best online poker site. Maybe if you're looking to be ROBBED.
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05-26-2019 , 08:28 PM
You've made your point now, multiple times. Move on.
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05-27-2019 , 12:58 PM
i can vouch 100% grooves is not a shill.
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05-28-2019 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SmallStakesPro
The point is that the people that own, operate, and moderate this site have cheated, robbed and restricted players here in the past. What will stop them from doing it in the future.

Hey guys, I'm thinking of depositing on this site but reading stuff like this makes me think twice, can someone explain the above comments and when have the people that run this site done the above cheated, robbed etc?


A side question, don't sites like this only attract regs and no rec players given most rec players deposit by cards and don't use bitcoin let alone look to play on sites which aren't popular?
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05-28-2019 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sokekax
Hey guys, I'm thinking of depositing on this site but reading stuff like this makes me think twice, can someone explain the above comments and when have the people that run this site done the above cheated, robbed etc?





A side question, don't sites like this only attract regs and no rec players given most rec players deposit by cards and don't use bitcoin let alone look to play on sites which aren't popular?
Pay no attention to nonsense like that. Some people have earned their ban. The same regurgitated garbage is spewed every month or so by that clown.

Bitcoin had a fork, weeks later SWC shipped the bch. Thieves, right? Ask support a question or have an issue with something provide facts and even a scdeenshot....resolved quickly.

Almost all regs, long term regs at that. Every derivative of the poker available, easy in/out with money, lots of reasons to play here, including some pretty soft cash games.

The negatives....low traffic, can get pretty laggy so turn off animations for much smoother game flow. Nothing else comes to mind really. Best advice, small deposit, play for a mo th, win some money, make withdrawal, and if all goes smoothly... increase volume/deposits accordingly
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05-28-2019 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by sokekax
Thanks for explaining, also do you know much about Nitrogen poker? there seems to be much the same but lot more bad posts about nitrogen and no Nitrogen thread on twoplustwo?
Don't really play there, have the US version, GlobalPoker, same software, etc....

I am 99.9999% sure that Aussies play on SWC, there are some in our group.
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