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01-14-2017 , 04:24 PM
Hello guys , i have been playing poker seriously for around 1 year now , i played poker at microgaming in a few other rooms : pokerloco , betvictor , betsafe , and i never had any problem with then , recently i was playing at stanjames and they banned my account for no reason , i have been trying to contact to anyone in the chat or via email but no one answer anything , they just said that i was using "bot" , i played 7k hands this month and i played like 30~40k hands last month , playing mostly 6 ~ 12 tables normally , i have all my hands saved here in my pt4 in case anyone wants to anallyze and see if its possible that i use d any kind of bot and played like this , i was even playing 36/30/15 , vpip pfr 3bet , wich kind of bot bot would play such a loose play style , adapting to the players accordingly , sometimes forgetting to raise my standard or strategy , someties changing the strategy , this kind of things that a bot would never do , i can even show anyone there that i can play 6 ~ 12 tables without using any bot and playing the same way i played , and i can play 7k hands in 10 days like i did this month without using anything , they have no proof of anything and refuse to even talking to me , i want to see if anyone from Stanjames or microgaming can come here and talk to me about this my login at Stanjames is : fernandocosta , and while they dont come here i suggest to anyone to withdraw your money ASAP from this **** room stealling people money .
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01-14-2017 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FernandoCosta
they banned my account for no reason
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Originally Posted by FernandoCosta
they just said that i was using "bot"

Technically, they gave you a reason.

Understand that new accounts with 1 post tend to not be taken that seriously, because the vast majority of them conveniently leave out information when they tell their side of the story.

With that in mind, you may want to consider offering to pay someone who can help prove your case a retainer fee to do the statistical and communication work for you. I doubt anyone will do much with your post here in and by itself, because all the things you said a bot cannot do they can in fact do.
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01-14-2017 , 04:48 PM
i oppened the account here to see if i can have any kind of help since their chat is simply ignoring me , at least i'm doing my part as alert people to dont play on this room since their are stealling people money for no reason , i think a bot plays the way he is configurated , why a bot would change his playstyle all the time , miss click , change sizes randomly etc... its possible but super unlikelly , and why i would need a bot to play less than 4 hours per day in average , its just wrong they ban someone like this ... i think it was because i was cashing out my money because of the recent changes from microgaming so they didnt want to loose money and just ban for no reason , also i had around 20bb/100 winrate or something around that in the last 35k hands or so , how a bot could do such a huge winrate , lots of evidences that there is no need to use bot and it is very unlikelly dont you agree?.
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01-14-2017 , 05:24 PM
Are you dum? Oc bots change the playing style. Perhaps not the most basic ones but every other bot out there can adjust and make different sizings and timings. Probably even 'misclicks'. And no I don't agree they are stealing your money for no reason. Btw and one pretty common factor among bots is high 3bet.

i think it was because i was cashing out my money because of the recent changes from microgaming so they didnt want to loose money and just ban for no reason


And you do realize that the money you won didn't come from the site?
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01-14-2017 , 05:37 PM
OP, what software are you using?
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01-14-2017 , 05:59 PM
Seriously OP - offer someone $500 or so to properly represent you (look at your database and speak on your behalf). No idea if you are tagged with an affiliate, but if so then speak to them as in theory they should want you to continue playing, so they will fight for you at no cost. You did something other than win fast to get the account closed. I do not have accounts there, but I have heard of the place, and if it was a widespread issue then it would be pretty known.

Thus, while they may have made an error, its hard to tell because you are behaving like a typical new poster screaming stuff and expecting everyone to believe everything you say at face value, when the history of posters like you shows that is not the right belief.

Get all your facts in order and present them in a calm, logical manner and find someone to speak on your behalf. Your warnings of the room as played are from a new account screaming that a site stole his money. If you really want to see a bunch of similar threads I can link them, but I have told you some steps that might help your situation.
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01-14-2017 , 07:07 PM
i'm using only pt4 .

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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Seriously OP - offer someone $500 or so to properly represent you (look at your database and speak on your behalf). No idea if you are tagged with an affiliate, but if so then speak to them as in theory they should want you to continue playing, so they will fight for you at no cost. You did something other than win fast to get the account closed. I do not have accounts there, but I have heard of the place, and if it was a widespread issue then it would be pretty known.

Thus, while they may have made an error, its hard to tell because you are behaving like a typical new poster screaming stuff and expecting everyone to believe everything you say at face value, when the history of posters like you shows that is not the right belief.

Get all your facts in order and present them in a calm, logical manner and find someone to speak on your behalf. Your warnings of the room as played are from a new account screaming that a site stole his money. If you really want to see a bunch of similar threads I can link them, but I have told you some steps that might help your situation.
i will post some pics of the hands that i played , i didnt have that much money that , its not worth to pay anyone , i was playing micros but i'm just pissed off about this , i'm a legit player and i'm feeling bad about this , its just not right to do this kind of stuff .

october playing std : http://4.1m.yt/jq2xaIs.png

december changed the playstyle for a more loose style : http://4.1m.yt/UM5acFb.png

take a look at how many hands per hour i play in average , how much time i play per day etc.. why i would need a bot to play this much? , i never used any kind of program other than pt4 . i'm happy that i cashed out most of my money before this happening but still really wrong , if i'm beeing banned playing 500 hands per hour a few hours per day , imagina nanonoko who played like 2k per hour and won millions in nl200 , their method of doing this is just super wrong .

Last edited by Mike Haven; 01-18-2017 at 07:42 PM. Reason: 3 posts merged
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01-14-2017 , 11:01 PM
They might be more sensitive. I had two prima accounts (originating from other networks) and they didn't accept me as a player.
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01-14-2017 , 11:16 PM
stanjames is a legit b&m boomaker, i think its the same as unibet actually. they cant just steal your money without proof. for them to accuse you of botting there had to be something on your system that set off their flags, seeing as how microgaming lets you change sn's basically nobody ever player reports bots on that network so it was something internal that tipped them off. one thing to add, your specific stats dont make you innocent of botting, there are bots that have been found playing 30/30/15 and crushing on multiple networks. there could be a very small chance when you changed your play you got lumped in with other bots that use that same vpip/pfr/3bet and your innocent or your not, none of us can know.
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01-15-2017 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by FernandoCosta
october playing std : http://4.1m.yt/jq2xaIs.png

december changed the playstyle for a more loose style : http://4.1m.yt/UM5acFb.png

take a look at how many hands per hour i play in average , how much time i play per day etc.. why i would need a bot to play this much? , i never used any kind of program other than pt4 . i'm happy that i cashed out most of my money before this happening but still really wrong , if i'm beeing banned playing 500 hands per hour a few hours per day , imagina nanonoko who played like 2k per hour and won millions in nl200 , their method of doing this is just super wrong .
you do realise that the first screenshot appears to show you playing 39000 hands in 6 days not in the month that you originally claimed? Also why do you have multiple 1 table 1 hand 1 hour+ sessions in that screenshot.
second screenshot shows you playing 1 hand on 1 table in almost a two hour session implies you were sat out for two hours.really?or was it a bot sat out

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01-15-2017 , 07:57 AM
Are you suggesting an OP in a thread like this might not be telling the whole and accurate picture? Inconceivable!
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01-15-2017 , 08:07 AM
it think its funny that he's trying to show that playing lots of tables and lots of hands means that he can't be using a bot , when the bit that really needs explaining are all those 1 hand hour long sessions from someone who puts in high volume.
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01-15-2017 , 08:55 AM
Maybe the bot sry i mean op was sitting at a table and instantly sitting out when a reg joined the table?
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01-15-2017 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithMM
you do realise that the first screenshot appears to show you playing 39000 hands in 6 days not in the month that you originally claimed? Also why do you have multiple 1 table 1 hand 1 hour+ sessions in that screenshot.
second screenshot shows you playing 1 hand on 1 table in almost a two hour session implies you were sat out for two hours.really?or was it a bot sat out
i think this is a pt4 bug , i didnt have 39k hands in 6 days there are more session up there see the scroll on the right .

i will explain again , i'm not saying that a bot cant play less tables , i'm not saying a bot cant play 100/100/100 or anything , i'm not saying anything like this , i'm saying its totally possible for any human without any problem to play the ammount i played , for how many hours i played , i think this 1 hour session came from sometimes i go away without closing the table (because the table closes automatically if you leave for afk) and everyone leaves the tables so i dont get kicked , and when i come back i comeback i still on that table , i think thats why this happens but i'm not sure .

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Maybe the bot sry i mean op was sitting at a table and instantly sitting out when a reg joined the table?
ok but you understand that a session is every table that i played? if i sit out from the table and play in another it will not show 1 hand for 1 hour , so if what you are you saying is true i would enter in only 1 table and instantly sit out on the sb right after paying the big blind when i see there are only regs there and then i would stop playing ?

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01-15-2017 , 10:40 AM
Tbg have no idea what you are trying to say. When you are sitting a table you can choose to uncheck autopost so you don't have to play when you notice a reg joining the game. I do that usually to avoid playing shortstackers.
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01-15-2017 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FernandoCosta
i will explain again , i'm not saying that a bot cant play less tables , i'm not saying a bot cant play 100/100/100 or anything , i'm not saying anything like this , i'm saying its totally possible for any human without any problem to play the ammount i played , for how many hours i played , i think this 1 hour session came from sometimes i go away without closing the table (because the table closes automatically if you leave for afk) and everyone leaves the tables so i dont get kicked , and when i come back i comeback i still on that table , i think thats why this happens but i'm not sure .
thats rubbish as you are sat at the tables and its a continuation of the previous session.What you are trying to claim is that you sit down to start and play a session ,open 1 table instead of your normal 6+ and everyone insta sits out and leaves so instead f opening another table , you get up leave that table open and walk away and do something else. That takes a bit of believing
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01-15-2017 , 04:58 PM
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thats rubbish as you are sat at the tables and its a continuation of the previous session.What you are trying to claim is that you sit down to start and play a session ,open 1 table instead of your normal 6+ and everyone insta sits out and leaves so instead f opening another table , you get up leave that table open and walk away and do something else. That takes a bit of believing
it could be true if the software didnt kick you from the table after a few minutes/hands . not 1 hour .
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01-18-2017 , 08:45 AM
What country are you from OP? Maybe there is a representative you can contact about this?
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08-30-2017 , 10:34 AM
Hi any update about this? Were you be able to play in other Microgaming room?
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