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Spin&Go Datamining Bots on PokerStars? Spin&Go Datamining Bots on PokerStars?

07-03-2015 , 01:03 AM
There are Spin&Go Datamining Bots on PokerStars. These bots are abusing the find a tournament by tournament # feature on PokerStars in order to find Spin&Go tournaments observe and then data-mine them. PokerStars needs to disable this feature asap because data-mining like this are being used to cheat players.

Players are now purchasing hundreds of thousands-millions of data-mined hands giving them unfair access to player tendencies and giving them an unfair advantage against players who are following the rules. Some players are also in the process of using this information to build GTO bots for Spin&Go's.

Spin&Go's already have incredibly high rake and they will be unbeatable for anyone other then cheaters very soon if PokerStars continues to do nothing about this.
07-03-2015 , 01:09 AM
So you can datamine observed hands again?
07-03-2015 , 01:10 AM
Going to post links/proof?

You need to calm down I think.

Edit : how much have you lost?
07-03-2015 , 01:18 AM
07-03-2015 , 01:20 AM
Ask anyone in the know, the owner of this site has been selling his millions of datamined hands directly to regulars for weeks now and has just launched this invite only data-mine site today which shows every players preflop and postflop frequencies.
07-03-2015 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinBots
Ask anyone in the know, the owner of this site has been selling his millions of datamined hands directly to regulars for weeks now and has just launched an invite only data-mine site today.
Dude that proves nothing..

I could probably get the same info off sharkscope
07-03-2015 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinBots
Ask anyone in the know, the owner of this site has been selling his millions of datamined hands directly to regulars for weeks now and has just launched this invite only data-mine site today which shows every players preflop and postflop frequencies.
Names of people 'in the know' or the name of the site?
07-03-2015 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaike
Dude that proves nothing..

I could probably get the same info off sharkscope
You do not know what you are talking about since when does sharkscope have the ability to track players EV in spins? Or directly show players preflop and postflop tendencies? Or sell you millions of data-mined hands directly for you to load into your database and cheat?
07-03-2015 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bjsmith22
Names of people 'in the know' or the name of the site?
I am not going to post the name of the site because i do not want it to become popular. Also when i say people in the know i mean almost every spin regular knows of this guy. He spams every spin&go twitch stream chat trying to sell his hand histories as well as gets regulars names from skype groups and messages them directly.
07-03-2015 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by matteroftime
I have just entered 5 1$ spins and recorded it, within 15 seconds two tables had one and within 30 seconds all 5. All 1x spins. I guess they are being watched for fun right Pokerstars?
Exactly every 1x multiplier has at least 1-4 observers watching always, these are the datamine bots. Wake up people they are being data-mined stop trying to flame me and email pokerstars and ask pokerstars to disable to search for tournament by id # feature. That is the only way to stop the cheating before it's too late.
07-03-2015 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinBots
You do not know what you are talking about since when does sharkscope have the ability to track players EV in spins? Or directly show players preflop and postflop tendencies? Or sell you millions of data-mined hands directly for you to load into your database and cheat?
Just noticed that. But you still have no real proof.

The site is probably just a scam.
07-03-2015 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaike
Just noticed that. But you still have no real proof.

The site is probably just a scam.
I don't know what more proof that u want, I am not posting the site name or skype for the seller. Just start up a spin&go game and see if u get an observer watching I guarantee u will get at least 1-4 watching and it isn't because u are famous.

Now try and observe a few 1x multipliers on your own and see if it is possible to do without having a special software bot.
07-03-2015 , 01:45 AM
There are Spin&Go Datamining Bots on PokerStars. These bots are abusing the find a tournament by tournament # feature on PokerStars in order to find Spin&Go tournaments observe and then data-mine them. PokerStars needs to disable this feature asap because data-mining like this are being used to cheat players.

Players are now purchasing hundreds of thousands-millions of data-mined hands giving them unfair access to player tendencies and giving them an unfair advantage against players who are following the rules. Some players are also in the process of using this information to build GTO bots for Spin&Go's.

Spin&Go's already have incredibly high rake and they will be unbeatable for anyone other then cheaters very soon if PokerStars continues to do nothing about this.
07-03-2015 , 02:18 AM
Did anybody informed stars about this ? Are they aware? What is their position ?
:-(:-(:-(
07-03-2015 , 02:25 AM
Post the 30s leaderboard. heard some guy won two max jackpots already lol.

Thats more impressive than the inevitable fact a rouge site would tracks spins. It's been happening at heads up for months now.
07-03-2015 , 02:50 AM
but it's okay for it to happen in hypers, where everyone has a huge edge
07-03-2015 , 02:51 AM
not surprised but lol at the op's "zomg, bots", any half competent stt player knows how to play 3 handed anyway and that's with ICM considerations that are absent in spins
07-03-2015 , 03:11 AM
I've noticed these single observers too. Always struck me as odd when nobody had been knocked out.
07-03-2015 , 03:14 AM
SpinBots is right, but that guy is selling those hands on a very high price. I buy them from someone else, who has a little less hands/day but he sells them for half price compering to other..

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but I joined 5 1$ games just to illustrate what is happening
They only datamine $15+

Last edited by thunderMe; 07-03-2015 at 03:19 AM.
07-03-2015 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by thunderMe
SpinBots is right, but that guy is selling those hands on a very high price. I buy them from someone else, who has a little less hands/day but he sells them for half price compering to others.. And they only datamine $15+

They only datamine $15+
So your cheating scum then?
07-03-2015 , 03:29 AM
not sure online poker is really worth it anymore with all these bots etc.
07-03-2015 , 03:35 AM
does PokerStars even offer any legitimate games on there site anymore? there game integrity & security department seems non-existent its really becoming a joke, how do they ever expect to get back into the USA market?
07-03-2015 , 03:38 AM
Are you telling me you resent being blackmailed into paying $1200 a year if you want your stats blocked?
07-03-2015 , 03:47 AM
I agree with OP, these spectators are too suspicious. To compare, I've played alot on other pokerstar sites and I'm not experiencing the same weird observing count as on stars.com.
07-03-2015 , 03:58 AM
Sigh... Poker never has nice things anymore. **** after **** coming to light.
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