When opening the software and trying to login, the following message appears-


Going to spadeclub.com, the following message appears-

anyone know what happened?

No idea what happened,but i do know that Zen is the software used on the Las Vegas Review Journal website,(lvrj.com...scroll to bottom you will see it). LVRJ poker is free,and provides prizes and small cash tournys,not plugging them just giving what i know about Zen.

Interesting thing about this site - it is becoming Card Player site under ZEN entertainment. The software looks like it's much better than original SC so I'd give it a 2 week free trial later on .

what will happen to chillshot?

Looks like the Shulmans are consolidating and happy to get an override. SC was a shot to fill a void that filled up rapidly, WPTE began at the same time. Both were undoubtedly non-profitable.

Now WSOP has a free site to "learn".

The big picture is that the influx of new online players, i.e. 18 year olds and below, is slowing. The 21 -35 age group is saturated. AND..... who wants to buy a subscription to win WWE Championship belts??

Zen is positioning, like Harrahs/888 to fill a gap when and if the GOV authorizes online poker.

Does this mean the end of Pokerstars, Full Tilt, et al in the United States?




HGWT

Excellent observation Palladin...I'll miss seeing you at SC.

Shulmans bailing can't be a good sign. He built SC solely to position himself with a huge database of players for when online poker became legalized. Here is an interesting story from the archives of the Las Vegas Sunhttp://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008...te-average-jo/

The way he shut the doors, without warning, and forcing players to play on that horrid, NLOP software was despicable. Making matter worse, for as long players (albeit I doubt very few) pay to play at that miserable site, he's going to be making money as an affiliate. Amazing!

I know one ex SC'er that won't stay at NLOP!

Thanks for posting that link. Dies this mean he is shocked at not getting 100,000 players
in that first year, let aone millions. He spoke of hitting a home run, not just getting a reasonable rate of turn. Barry appears to have struck out instead.
I doubt the possbility of legalize on-line poker in USA ha anything to do with his decision. I believe when the legislation is finally passed and signed, having a land based casino in USA will be a requirement.

In 2009, around 32,000 players earned SPOY points, which required making a final table or close to it in the larger pay-out tourneys. I'm sure the total sign-ups were closer to 200,000 for a free membership. The problem was, that their conversion rate was horrible. Probably 10% purchased a membership, and of those, maybe 30% continued. To make matters worse, any player with a poker IQ of 5 could turn a profit, so very few of us every paid to play there.

Bottom line was he couldn't find 5000 fresh fish per month that were willing to shelve out $20 a month that had no chance of winning.

He's in the media. Surely, he's under the belief that that U.S. is not going to legalize online poker in 2010 or even 2011 or he would have continued to absorb the losses for a few more months, IMO.

I been a Spadeclub member since their beta testing in December 2007 and made a couple thousand bucks. I'm sad to see it end, but I saw it coming as they kept slashing their mega monthly tourney from the original once a month 40k tourney to 30k and I don't even remember what has been lately maybe 15k. Then slashing their weekly 5k to 2k on satur and 2k on sun turned all their tourneys into donkaments. I play a ton of online poker and I even forgot to get my red token in time to play the mega monthly last week. In 2008 that was a priority of my grind. The rake sites like tilt and stars are where the money is at and Spadeclub got lost in the shuffle (pun intended).

I played on Spadeclub, FleetStreetGames, Zosoz, and PowerPokerClub. Every time they ceased operations I had trouble getting money I won. FSG finally closed out their accounts and deposited it on pokerstars, which I loved because I never deposited on stars and that got me a comfortable bankroll of a couple hundred bucks that I have turned into a few k. Zosoz was a frickin disaster as my 2k check bounced and then weeks later I finally got a good enough check that the bank accepted. PowerPokerClub closed January 31, 2010 and promised to pay out the cashouts within 90days. Some players got their moneys while I'm in the boat of still waiting lol. 500 bucks worth lost from PPC and I know one player who won 20k! Who knows what order they processed the payouts in, but that blows to not get 500 let alone 20k.

I hope Spadeclub cashes me out. Shulman's had a record poker year in the 2009 WSOP's winning millions and they probably won't even pay their members their piddly couple hundred bux each.

I been a member at Spade club for almost three years, won on the average a bit over $200 a year, for the first two years. This past year finally hit big and finished 3rd in their monthy for $1,000, and I am thankful that I got last $60 or so out a week before. Never had any problem with cashing from them, so I was always happy to play there.

I had problems logging in to the new site, would not transfer my premium membership over, won't try it unless they do, and if they do I will lease try it out.

I love to find out the details on the Shulman's side and if they made much money off this. I know I always got back more than I put in. Thanks-Mark

I notice Card Player has no mention of the closure on their website.

Lol , all I can say is LOL

LOL

I have played at SC for 2 years and liked it there.... it is to bad they forced the members to transfer membership to the nlop it's a low rate garbage site IMO... just glad someone started spadeclubbers.com for all of use former SC members that have no home anymore to keep in contact with each other...

I played on SC during the beta test period and the first couple of months. I figured that they wouldn't survive in the long run due to the large guarantees they offered and the relatively small influx of new members. I'm actually surprised that they lasted this long.

I find it odd how they call you valued..

How did your cashout go?
I just had an email advising $42 on it's way when there was just short of $300 iirc.
Apparently T&C's state unclaimed prizes are voided!!
More fool me for continuing to subscribe even tho I hardly ever played there for the last year or so. Awaiting a reply to my wtf?? response, if I can get the email through without it bouncing back.