What would be peak hours for PKR club? Are most players from the US?

usa evenings (though there is some traffic during the day too), and yes

Been on the site for awhile and have never had any experiences where I felt superused. I did go through a stretch where I would never hit in 27TD when starting with a D1 to the point I was thinking of tracking it lol

I’m almost positive they shuffle the cards in stud variants and thus in that hand it was played completely standard as he was favorite

Meant to answer this a few weeks ago; yes, the down cards are scrambled in the stud HHs. In the words of the head software dev and stud aficionado (lol), “The down cards are revealed in a way that doesn’t expose what the player started with. The upcards are left in place.”

My “wtf why can’t I win?” moments most often flared up in the A-5 triple draw portion of the mix games; as my rough 7s would be constantly getting x/r by villains drawing 2. I continually called down w my bluffcatchers, hoping that maybe this time they were snowing. They weren’t.

On the flip side, I’ve run pretty well in a game I hadn’t yet played in live mix, 2-7 razz. Fun game, there seems to be more late street action/bluffing than in the traditional version ime.

Also, while it hasn’t yet been a legit minor issue, I thought it would be a good idea to post a copy of the RNG certification. The RNG meets UK Gaming Commission standards, some of the strictest in the world afaik. After discussing this w a couple guys, we agreed that the transparency would be healthy and did not present any security/privacy issues. So I’ll post it tonight or tomorrow when I get on my laptop. The bar of trustworthiness should be set higher for those operating an agent-based site, even if we “know” the games are square.

Hey man. PM me your SN if you want some feedback—I’ve been playing the 8/16 and 15/30 with some 30/60 debacles for last year or so. I know you have solid LHE fundamentas from the handful of live sessions we played together. But you are literally facing some of the best mixed game players in the world on this site. You know that feeling you get playing LHE against weak players, where you start to feel like a cat playing with its prey before snacking down? That’s how they feel playing draw against you and me. The only way I’ve found to not get chewed up in this meat grinder of wizards is to bum hunt the fish relentlessly.

Some of my friends have made 100k+ on this site and claim that action is great and no superser activity

Was the RNG cert ever posted?

No. Despite having it in my possession and getting solid guidance on the optimal way to post an image (something I’ve never done on 2p2), I really don’t have an excuse. “Being really busy” doesn’t really cut it. Thank you for calling me out on this/reminding me to do it.

If I can’t get this up by the time Monday Night Football is over, I’ve basically failed at life and will donate $10 for every point scored in the game (the line is currently 46.5) to an efficient charity in a way that can be identified publicly. My apologies for this goof

https://imgur.com/dFjIiu7

Hey guys, I am not an RNG expert. From the people I’ve talked to that do know more than I, UKGC standards (in this respect) are legit. Same for the testing lab.

With access to more data, it becomes easier to see that although the weaker players have their winning sessions/days/weeks, the players that were winning before they joined the site, are still winning, in most cases. Rake is very reasonable and rakeback is available.

There are still some things that give me pause occasionally. But among the club sites, this is one of the only ones that I trust enough to tell players - some of whom are my friends - that the site always pays and the games are square.

For brand new players, I would still recommend either starting with small deposits, or not playing on club sites, if you can’t get enough info to make yourself feel comfortable. There are some reputable posters who have posted in the thread who I think can also answer most questions that prospective players may have. Gl

Software is fast I do not have any clue how they make so many games. Dramaha, Archie newest game I like is the 6 card PLO - but not the Double Board version. I'm confident in the ability i have to beat these games and if you've played me then you already know jk guys. I didn't see the heater coming and it came at just the right time in my life.

I **** you not going from pawning car title down to about to buy apartment in like 5 mos. Made some mistakes early in life but my guy gave me a shot to play there. Where else could I play as a mixed game player that had my soul crushed by Black Friday when I'm nowhere near a casino? I do wish they had fewer of these crazy games. I'd rather have the 3 game dramaha mix gone and more players in the 20 game mix called the crazy mix that covers all the major games but doesnt have the stuff that was invented at 3am at bellagio last night.

Got good rakeback daily technical assistance from my agent if i need it, appreciate that Macau, and get paid however i want whenever i want.Anything can happen until I get the keys to my place but it has been a long time coming.

Been a lot more 5 card plo action recently and thats my ****. Thanks for letting me share here on 2p2. MT1

How do I get login information for kingsclub?

just reading this thread....why didn't you disclose in original (reply) post you were in possession of an RNG certificate? Wouldnt that end all speculation on the spot? Or am I missing something? No offense intended just curious....

I think that's a normal question and it couldn't offend anyone. For every online site that I've considered playing - the first two things I look for are game integrity and payout status/solvency. Your latter guess might be on point.

If I had access to results of a number of players and they seemed reasonable, based on my/others' perception of their skill. If I may have known the admins and their respective reputations, it would have put me at ease. I guess since I already "knew" the games were square, it wasn't the first thing that came to mind when I responded. I support them bc they do things the right way.

People still getting paid quickly for 2yrs+ and they offer more variants than any other site in the world, it's not even close. Much different than a lot of the scandals, payout issues, botting, or lack of integrity occurring on many other unregulated sites. The agents are vetted pretty thoroughly, I believe.

Seems to be working out well so far. Action has increased gradually from 150 online and 30 tables to 600-800 online and 80-90 tables. They work hard, have integrity (the most important thing in online poker imo), and are creative and open minded.

Are you a rep for the site? It seems like you are, but then you say "they"? You clearly arent doing shameless promotion or advertising the site which is what the mods come down on, you're simply providing info. So I dont think there would be repercussions for saying you own or work for the site

You would need to find an agent affiliated w the site and request an account that would allow you to see the lobby. About 90 mins ago there were over 1k players online and 80+ tables occupied, with 70 of them running w 2 or more players. You wont see 50-60 tables occupied w 1 player sitting. The lobby cleans up nice. People come to play.

The mods here are pretty cool and fair. I think one's reputation might be taken into account re your last sentence and it takes time to build a reputation. But I wouldn't want to speculate much, so the best place to ask them about their policies is probably in their forum. I don't own the site.

As NLHE has become solved, to a certain degree - players without access to, or knowledge of, the "arms race" that dominates the spirit of the game on almost every site: the botting groups, use of solvers and real time advisors, seating scripts, custom made advanced HUDs, etc - they don't have a great experience.

Mixed games are often softer bc the rake is reasonable (even before rakeback) and for the same reason live mixed games play bigger than the specialist games - nobody is a genius at all the games in a mix, so everybody gets their "turn" at playing the game they think they might have the biggest edge in.

I used to have experience w the agent model of gaming a decade before the first poker club site popped up and I enjoy mixed games, so I gravitated towards Kingsclubpkr. An agent is sort of like an affiliate. I guess they could be used interchangeably, though an agent is responsible for a few more things than an affiliate. Most notably, they're your cashier. DO NOT give your money to the Lock Poker or Full Flush equivalent, regardless of the club site you're interested in. If something doesn't feel right, or you notice some red flags, walk away. There's always a fair game somewhere

Ok. Fwiw I didnt mean my comment in a negative way, more of my ongoing information search as I always am trying to research and learn as much as I can about sites/poker industry as a whole. I also was inquiring bc maybe we're in a support chat together . And youre right, for mixed games its hands down the nut spot to go

Hey I definitely agree w any method that involves doing as much as research as is reasonable before depositing money w an individual or company. I’m happy to hear you enjoy playing mixed games at Kings, too. I think they’re sustainable for sure, compared to the first extinct variant, lhe, and then nlhe and plo might be next to fall. But the cool thing I’m seeing now is a lot of profitable lhe games seem to be running on this site and others. Almost like part of the lhe pool have gone full circle, from when lhe was the game people assumed was being played, if one said “I’ll be down for dinner later, mom/dad/gf/bf/husband/wife. I’m playing poker online” hehe

As a wiser person than myself said, “We are happy to be providing a distraction to the poker community during this otherwise temporary tragedy of Covid-19” paraphrasing

I'm hearing favorable things about KCP so far, from some of those big name players mentioned in shadow here. Time will tell, but i'm guessing that some of these games may be a lot tougher than advertised.

Certain games/stakes are incredibly tough and reggy here. Mainly the higher stakes plo/nl. If you think about it the barrier to entry is much higher for kings than other sites. For starters a rec would have to know a poker agent who works with kings, which isnt something a casual player comes by too often.

They also dont advertise or market the site as they operate in a grey area and arent trying to draw attention. As a result it takes someone fairly into poker to get on the site, making games much harder. How they seem to combat this is having a lot of table mixes that are a few random games that you play rounds of, and introducing completely new games to reduce the edge pros have

For the agents or folks who playe here, how does the rakeback work? How do they calculate it? How is it paid out?

Rake is calculated using the contributed amount each player has put into the pot - the winner doesn’t pay it all. So for example, if a heads 30/60 badugi hand is played and reaches the rake cap of 1, each player pays 50 cents in rake.

Most agents pay rakeback after the week ends at 8AM EST, into the player’ account. Sometimes agents might pay earlier in the week, if a players’ balance has gotten low.

% is on a case by case basis. Sone agents give everybody an equal %; some may allow credit players and give slightly less in that spot; some may take into account the player’s volume and profit.

Most agents are actually sub affiliates, who have been given an agreed upon %, to distribute to their players at their discretion. Primary agents have a bigger slice of the pie and have sub affiliates, who get a bigger % than a single player, in most cases.

Heard about the site and looking to understand more before jumping in (how to actually get an account, fishy-ness, trustworthiness, etc).

Thank you!

Hey youre only able to get on the site if you know an agent/gamerunner that already is working with the site. Unfortunately I cant recommend one on the forum, however based on the fact youre inquiring about the site I assume you already know one or know a player on there and can go that route. Like all agent sites definitely properly vet the person who will be loading/withdrawing funds for you and ask around to see if anyone has any bad experiences with the guy.

Fishiness that depends.. Theyve recently begun adding a lot of private lobbies on the site which the few I'm in are all very soft and mostly people I know locally. The main kings lobby imo is pretty tough for PLO/NL, at least at 5/10+, but the mixed games seem to be beatable. But considering the difficulty of hearing about and getting an account on the site generally those that do are into poker and not some rando donk whose playing poker on a site bc they just won in the sites casino.

Trustworthiness in the context of payments comes down to the agent you work with. Always do your due dilligence and get the name of the agents agent, that way if anything goes wrong(I havent heard of this happening on kignsclub but definitely not uncommon with agent sites) you have someone to contact to try getting your funds. In fact you cant go wrong getting your agents agent to vouch for all funds in the case the agent decides to scum. For game integrity I know they dont allow vpns, have banned multi accounters, and seem like they care about it being a fair game, but like all sites who really knows if any1 is colluding

I have played the last 2 months on Kings Club Poker and I have never in my life seen hands consistently play out in the manner that they do on KCP. I am far from a pro but I have a lot of experience playing online on several different sites and ive never seen anything close to what ive seen the past few months. Losing is not the problem. Ive had bad months before and for sure the fact that ive had almost entirely losing sessions on this site adds to my frustration. However, there is zero debate to be had with me that the site is compromised. I wish I downloaded my hand history to show before it disappeared as I will never play here again and there is just no logical explanation for the way certain hands played out in both NLHE and LHE. Hitting 2 outers appear to be the norm and it always happens after the money goes in. THis was an expensive experiment for me and I just want to do what I can to get the word out. I am 90% sure that RNGs are at play as opposed to the site intentionally rigging the games for weaker players but getting my money in good for me was absolutely a losing strategy.

Summary: Be careful in general online and I cannot state my "suspicions" strongly enough that these types of hands do not play out the way they have for me in other venues. Bad beats happen. Not to the extent that I have seen on KCP but that's not what I am posting about. Its the way these hands played out which really gives me the surety in which I am talking about this site. I don't make these accusations lightly.

you can play there fixed limit? how to get to know an agent?