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08-16-2019 , 03:48 AM
Has anybody tried out the PPP clone UPoker on an Ipad? I've been trying to 2-table on my phone while playing at a casino and it's definitely sub-optimal (I usually 4-table on Nox at home on my desktop.) Just wondering if an emulator such as Nox works ok on an Ipad?
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08-16-2019 , 12:04 PM
this app and the ppl who run the clubs are garbage.
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08-16-2019 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MuckleberryFinn
this app and the ppl who run the clubs are garbage.
care to elaborate ?
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08-16-2019 , 02:50 PM
Pppoker is dddead. Took a peek in at One of the top 5 clubs and certainly one of the top 3 us facing unions today to see what the ackshun was like and it’s just bot-bot-city on your titties. Like .40PLO you’ve got one guy who’s 84/15 and then 5 bots playing <25/18. In OMAHA!
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08-16-2019 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DrBadBeat
Anyone from the US who had a balance on Stax when the club disbanded can direct message me and I'll put you in touch with some people who can help recover your lost balance. Union is working together to cover the losses of the US players who were burnt by the club.
Thanks for posting. I dm’d you here.
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08-16-2019 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JobRunsBetter
Pppoker is dddead. Took a peek in at One of the top 5 clubs and certainly one of the top 3 us facing unions today to see what the ackshun was like and it’s just bot-bot-city on your titties. Like .40PLO you’ve got one guy who’s 84/15 and then 5 bots playing <25/18. In OMAHA!
Yep. Was the glory days over a year ago.
Now bots / collusion in every club.
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08-16-2019 , 06:39 PM
NL games still good as ever in my union at 100nl/200nl
Only one player i suspect to be a (weak) short stacker bot.
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08-16-2019 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott7x
NL games still good as ever in my union at 100nl/200nl
Only one player i suspect to be a (weak) short stacker bot.


Thx for posting. We needed another agent in here telling us that everything is fine
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08-17-2019 , 09:06 AM
re GPS restriction of upoker

when one guy who you can't sit with sits at all the tables you are just helpless.

the other most annoying thing is you, not him getting kicked out of the table because the new guys' gps location is close.

I suspect this happens only to people who are playing with emulators?

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-17-2019 at 09:54 AM.
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08-17-2019 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by top_top

If these guys scam in a union with over 9000 players . where am i supposed to play ? Ive heard of ship it / 8 bit scamming people as well. guys what is the legit union to play on ????
Just to make people aware it seems that the people behind the Sunshine Union took care of it and covered the balances of USA players on top of being stiffed by the Stax guys for a huge amount of money.
So they did the right thing IMO. Wanted to share as I think it deserve a phrase and people might get wrong perception reading here about how the situation with the Scammers from Stax unfolded.
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08-17-2019 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KptBomba
Just to make people aware it seems that the people behind the Sunshine Union took care of it and covered the balances of USA players on top of being stiffed by the Stax guys for a huge amount of money.
So they did the right thing IMO. Wanted to share as I think it deserve a phrase and people might get wrong perception reading here about how the situation with the Scammers from Stax unfolded.
Can anyone put me in contact with the Sunshine Union about this?
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08-17-2019 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aiverson0323
Can anyone put me in contact with the Sunshine Union about this?
I can confirm as one of the unions part of the sunshine club that people were paid even after stax stiffed everyone. Matter of fact no one was even told players were just paid and losses were eaten
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08-17-2019 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGMileyCyrus
I can confirm as one of the unions part of the sunshine club that people were paid even after stax stiffed everyone. Matter of fact no one was even told players were just paid and losses were eaten
Yeah I’m hearing the member of Stax that were just booted from the club/union are most likely needing to join this Sunshine/Moonriver club & have their funds recovered there to play/cashout. But I’ve yet to speak to any of those Union members or agents directly. If anyone knows any more info please DM me. Thx.
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08-17-2019 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aiverson0323
Yeah I’m hearing the member of Stax that were just booted from the club/union are most likely needing to join this Sunshine/Moonriver club & have their funds recovered there to play/cashout. But I’ve yet to speak to any of those Union members or agents directly. If anyone knows any more info please DM me. Thx.
I know the union I am part of was stiffed by the stax owner and our players were paid out of pocket. As for stax player balances I don't know if they can be recovered since their owner ran off with it and didn't pay his debts. But I have no idea that will be upto the people in charge.
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08-17-2019 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGMileyCyrus
I know the union I am part of was stiffed by the stax owner and our players were paid out of pocket. As for stax player balances I don't know if they can be recovered since their owner ran off with it and didn't pay his debts. But I have no idea that will be upto the people in charge.
Yeah I get that. But the original message from DrBadBeat said that the Union was working to cover the Stax players specifically. That’s more of what I’m asking about.
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08-17-2019 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Alucard5077
re GPS restriction of upoker

when one guy who you can't sit with sits at all the tables you are just helpless.

the other most annoying thing is you, not him getting kicked out of the table because the new guys' gps location is close.

I suspect this happens only to people who are playing with emulators?
Click on the 'Virtual Location' button (if using Nox) to change your location.
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08-18-2019 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by aiverson0323
Yeah I’m hearing the member of Stax that were just booted from the club/union are most likely needing to join this Sunshine/Moonriver club & have their funds recovered there to play/cashout. But I’ve yet to speak to any of those Union members or agents directly. If anyone knows any more info please DM me. Thx.
I'm not involved but have replied to your message with their contact info. I believe that is correct though. It is for US players only I believe however.
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08-18-2019 , 11:18 AM
What are some reputable, high traffic clubs that people would recommend joining? Not looking to join “your” club. I’m looking for legit options here. Thanks.
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08-22-2019 , 06:13 AM
Hello from Ukraine, respected poker community.

I have a vital question about PPPoker:
- WHO takes the rake in the club games: Club owner or Application?

Reference. I have calculated value of 1 PPChip:

1 Diamond = $1/60 = $0.017
1 PPChip = 100 PPChips / 40 Diamonds = 2.5 Diamonds = $0.0425
You pay 5% fee when you transfer PPChips to a member, so 1 PPChip is actually roughly $0.045.

So, for every 1 PPChip rake taken by Application you basically pay $0.045 to Application.
If PPChip in the club equals $0.05, your income is robbed by the Application by 90%.
And only if PPChip value is $0.09 or more you are starting to make equal or more than the Application.

In general it means that clubs where 1 PPChip equals let's say less than $0.10 just dont make any sense for running them for a profit!
And clubs with PPCHip value less than $0.05 will run down eventually.

Example explanation:
Let's assume 1 chip is $0.02 in the club.
6 players buy-in for the club for $100 and receive 5000 chips each totally equals 30000 chips.
To buy 30000 chips, club owner should spend 75000 diamonds (40 chips for 100 diamonds) equals $1275 ($1 = 60 diamonds).
So he spends $1275 to accomodate chips for $600 play - it doesn't make any sense to me!
I saw TONS of clubs offering as low chip values as $0.02 - how do they exist?

Of course PPPoker credits you 3000 PPChips (roughly $1200 of rake) at the creation of the club, effectively but in the longterm it's irrelevant - it's fraction in total rake milled will decline to a zero.

Any purchase of PPChips has no reverse effect and what club owner is basically doing - he is paying rake in advance having received $1200 of rake free from Application.

Of course this is all true IF Application takes the rake and not club owner. I cannot confirm it goes to a club balance. I see Fee reports for my test club but dont see that PPChips return to a club balance.

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Can someone follow my thoughts and answer my questions?

Am I missing something?
Maybe PPChips cost less in asian countries and they can afford buying them for times less prices?
Maybe rake goes to club owners and I didnt find this mechanics/confirmation yet?

One addition to my post above. 3000 PPChips is actually $135 of nominal rake credited by PPPoker, but as I said, in longterm it's irrelevant.

What are my conclusions:
- Clubs with higher PPChip value are more viable (1 PPChip = $1 or higher is better).
- Club owners pay nominal rake of $0.045 for every PPChip bought to Application AHEAD of any rake generated (this is unique shady model by the Application).
- Running a club is very expensive: Diamonds for club rating per month, automatic tables for Diamonds per hour, 5% Diamonds comission on Manager transactions, fees on reports etc etc
- Clubs with 1 PPChip < $0.05 is a scum mathematically or will go down soon.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-22-2019 at 08:16 PM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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08-22-2019 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jdp
Click on the 'Virtual Location' button (if using Nox) to change your location.
it doesn't work
I've gone as far as to install fake gps locator & go ino developer mode & activate mock locations( on LDplayer). Doesn't work
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08-22-2019 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ownya
Is stixx’s discord actually deleted or is he not receiving any messages?( I attempted to contact him again this morning and got an automated message from bot saying” Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient.”
Does anyone have a way to contact Zach(admin)- don’t have his contact info saved on my discord

Also since the club has closed since last week, has anyone been able to contact stixx at all? I have sent him 3 messages and have yet to receive a reply
For anyone interested, Stixx ghosted me for a few thousand as well. Sent me about 25% of what he owed me. I have his personal name and contact info. He was also at the WSOP this year so he is still on the scene.
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08-22-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SensaUno
One addition to my post above. 3000 PPChips is actually $135 of nominal rake credited by PPPoker, but as I said, in longterm it's irrelevant.

What are my conclusions:
- Clubs with higher PPChip value are more viable (1 PPChip = $1 or higher is better).
- Club owners pay nominal rake of $0.045 for every PPChip bought to Application AHEAD of any rake generated (this is unique shady model by the Application).
- Running a club is very expensive: Diamonds for club rating per month, automatic tables for Diamonds per hour, 5% Diamonds comission on Manager transactions, fees on reports etc etc
- Clubs with 1 PPChip < $0.05 is a scum mathematically or will go down soon.
Thought u get 10k chips at the beginning of a club not 3k...

Anyway, i have also wondered the same thing when looking at some of these foreign currency clubs...my account balances in each account is over 100k chips...my rake paid each weeek doesnt go over $100 usd though, and then get rakeback from that also...

ya i just check, for each of those accounts it would have cost the club $300USD in diamonds just to fund my chips lol....

Last edited by BigBananas; 08-22-2019 at 07:46 PM.
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08-23-2019 , 01:19 AM
When they display the all in equities, does this % account for dead cards also?
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08-27-2019 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HUMBLE.
When they display the all in equities, does this % account for dead cards also?
no
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08-27-2019 , 06:17 PM
Is it against terms of service to chip dump? I read TOS and didnt see anything about it.
Want to switch agents. Found another one who is in the same union as me that is more reputable.
Club owner has been acting sketchy recently, don't trust him as much as i used to.
Easiest way to transfer chips from old account to new account would be to chip dump. (Have new agent sit me HU on my new account, I play from my old account, go all in pre (except for $1), and fold to jam to not pay rake)
Any way i could get in trouble for this?
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