Personally, I don't think that someone who admits to exclusively playing on a site where the owners openly admit to stealing player funds has any moral authority to call anyone else "dumb". But I acknowledge your point: you've made a profit on one pppoker club, so you feel that all pppoker clubs are safe and profitable. I'm sure all prospective players appreciate your perspective and experience.

It's amusing that you thought he was referring to Party Poker.

It's amusing that you thought he wasn't being sarcastic.

I'm not sure why one would need moral authority to call someone dumb, but
I didn't call you dumb. I said a statement you made is dumb.
And I don't agree that playing on PP takes away ones moral authority.
I live in America, where is the morally correct play to play online poker? Or should i just not be playing at all?
Its like you didn't even read what I said.
I acknowledged there is risk and most of the post was about things you can do to minimize risk.

I'm sure that it helps your chances of not being scammed in the first place.
I'm not comfortable trusting some one with my roll if they can press one button on their phone make it impossible for me to get a hold of them.

how's collusion/cheating in pppoker compared to pokermaster

From what i hear alot better. Yet obv not kn a pokerstars level

Hey this isn't specifically regarding pppoker but other similar apps which is required to be run by an emulator on pc.

How do you guys multitable 4,5 or 6 accounts on an emulator? It uses so much cpu & ram.
I have 3 accounts open right now & it uses 90% CPU & around 90% memory.
If I open up another emulator then all starts lagging.

I have an i5-4690k & 8GB RAM. Using the LDplayer as the emulator

only noobs have 8gb ram in 2019

You need a MUCH stronger computer if you wanna play 6 "chinese" tables. No matter what settings you might change ur system is just too weak.
Also always better to have a desktop vs laptop bc even better laptops will overheat and compensate by lowering performance giving you lags...

moved to nox from ldplayer & the CPU usage went drastically down.Aournd 50% now. But ram is still a problem.
Gonna upgrade soon tho so won't be an issue.
I can run 3apps+ 3pppoker tables without lag so it's enough for now

Seems Google oriented. Maybe some other is also lighter? I have not verified anything as still looking around.

The ordinary laptops (if not using a box PC that's better also considering a big monitor) have an integrated graphics card and they don't necessarily limit the heat down compared to the gaming laptops that do so and have a non-integrated graphics card. An ordinary laptop can get slowly burnt at high temperatures (the keyboard burns and e.g. starts to throw files and folders in garbage pretty regularly when one clicks them).

The dollar rooms might have as low as NLH/PLO20. Other than that (other currencies) it might be 60, depending on affiliate, I suppose. But I have just part of the infos.

Some affiliate (Pokeroff) thinks the dollar rooms are the fishiest (and the highest). I find that hard to believe and wouldn't direct at those rooms as a default.

The minimum deposit per account or not vary from 300 to (1.5k) to try to avoid the micro/low stakes players, but 20 is the lowest offered here. To save efforts for lower profits.

I have seen stuff like (italypokerdeals): weekly fee: between 0% - 15% of winnings and rakeback, charged by the clubs, and rebate: between 0% - 15% as a percentage of the action "bought" by the club (one wins, they take, one loses, they give). How much all that might add up to? Weekly isn't a long run, like paying tax weekly from gambling winnings. The other affiliates I looked, I didn't see a mention of club fees and club rebates.

At least they have a western cap on rake, but this site isn't anything special for below 200 or 100 level as 3% rake and a rakeback (like 30% at this room) is better than what this 2+2 room (seems the most popular) offers. Many of these rooms are open to the whole world.

Now the levels at 200+ are somewhat doubtful here also because of fees and rebates and so on. Seems mostly for low limits all these Asian/Chinese sites, though Pokemaster (hard to play?) has a low rake (5% of winnings -- I don't know what other hidden costs there are as they are not usually told, it seems). PM isn't 2.5% as always put as it is of profits after 3 hours or so, that's way less than a 2.5% rake. But who knows what information is correct or missing. Currency conversions, rake from uncalled bets (one room at least) and before the flop (gg?).

Some affiliates guarantee the money at the Asian/Chinese sites but at least on this room all records get deleted weekly and someone reported that his money just disappeared after 5 months of inactivity. At least, cashout regularly if winning. This includes the deposit records also, not to mention the current balance and so on. What kind of records can possibly prove what you had there before your money disappeared one way or the other?

i need some info for safe rooms where people have been getting paid...

never had issues running ppp software but emulators with PM seem to eat away at PC resources

All rooms are fairly safe until they are not...

Its a numbers game. You get softer games w higher winrates but therefore your money isnt 100% safe but only 80-90 (numbers pulled out of my arsehole).

If in the end that tradeoff is worth taking is a decision each player has to take for himself.

Overall lately most chinese apps are pure deposit sites where your entire roll is at risk by

A) site itself
B) goverments intervening
C) agent scams

PPP is kind of a hybrid in the sense that its not a pure deposit site and alot of agents guarantee money and still pay out even if the agent himself doesnt get paid.

So imo PPP is "safer" for players than most of the current competition

Does anyone else have the feeling that NL100+ action has been drying up on PPP?

Has been for a while

A lot of the fish are cleaned out. Plus wsop is happening.

Fish play 5 card PLO.

The recommended number of tables in these cases is generally up to 4 (depending on your computer) that's also for not to get frozen and so on as likely during the hand. However, they don't allow emulators anymore.

There are alternate sites to PPPoker -- that I am not going to add any time soon because of several problems and unclear stuffs there as far as I read.

I am adding IDNs ShenPoker. This is the number one option when considering the Asian sites, just running to the no-rake-cap problem at 200+ and has some account setting and the wrong affiliate tagged problems but their 24/7 live chat gets all done if nothing else. A direct deposit/withdrawal with wallets possible. I found no problems in their games when looking at Youtube videos of NLH and PLO.

Possibly Pokemaster as the rake figures to be low and probably at least the latter with some guarantees, especially as one will not be playing 10c/20c there, as the 50+ seems to be the lowest running. I didn't get a clear picture of how the games are when I tried to look at Youtube, just that getting used to it (the tiny cards if the player is still in the hand and the somewhat messy numbers) it might be clear enough especially with a big monitor.

PPPoker looks clear enough to me, just didn't track enough of how the games are, as not going to be playing there any time soon. The rake cap is good for 200+ level, that's problematic w/o the at no-cap sites if the games are some tougher than at lower than that limits.

I think one figures best to focus on only one or two of these sites at the time for security reasons; to keep the money moving.

And mass colluders

Every table of 5 card has or has someone on the waiting list to collude. Every club. It’s easy as pie to spot.

Now people join multiple clubs to make it “less” obvious.

Sucks what has become of the clubs

My club is now filled with bots and colluders. And yes they signed up to different clubs to make it look less suspicious.

Pppoker is no longer safe.

I want to upload screenshots. How?

Hey guys. I really wish I could use a hud while playing PPPoker. I've been playing 3 tables on PC so far.
Is there any way to use a tracker/hud?
I heard of pokermasterhud but I'm not sure if it is optimal.

Please pm me a list of all the people who were caught cheating at 20 a point? I lost a ton in those games and rly felt like I was getting cheated afterwards

Please pm me list of the names of the exposed cheaters, I lost a lot playing 20 dollars a point Chinese and felt I was getting cheated.

hey I want to play on pppoker but my old club website turned into some sports betting crap so I guess it's defunct. i forget the name but it was in union with I think clubs like rounders and sunshine club or something, among others

can you still get over 30% rakebacck on these clubs ? I play 90% plo so rakeback is very important

what to do what to do....

Some clubs/agents definitely offer 30% and up. Shouldn't be playing on the app without rakeback, just giving the club extra money.