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Is it even legal to own a club and charge a rake? I keep hearing about club owners making huge monthly profits from rake - but I have no idea if this is even legal?

Someone in vegas told me there is a loop hole that allows it. Don't really understand though.

I doubt it's legal but the profits are real

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07-13-2018 , 10:30 AM

#102

djevans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5,045

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Originally Posted by 5 south

I doubt it's legal but the profits are real

How can you find out for sure? I've searched for a while and found nothing about it. I even know club owners paying taxes on the profits.

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07-13-2018 , 03:21 PM

#103

Matt24

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 9,199

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Originally Posted by ejksvalljen

Has anyone ever gotten any reply from support? I've sent them like 5 mails and no response at all (checked spam).

they take forever

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07-13-2018 , 06:39 PM

#104

thisisjimmybruv

centurion

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 197

Still waiting for your evidence.....not sure why you wouldnt of posted everything at once instead of days later especially if your so determined to warn people how shady this app really is

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

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07-13-2018 , 08:44 PM

#105

LETIGRA

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 646

It was a good read and the poster seems pretty knowledgeable.

I also am awaiting the run out proof. I want to see the three flop cards in exact same order as well.

Shuffle a deck of cards and deal out 7 cards in a row.

Now shuffle again and what are the odds they come out in the exact same order?

My math might be off but I think it is 1/(52*51*50*49*48*47*46) or 1.5 times out of a trillion trials.

Still not proof of a rig but show me that run out 3 or 4 times..

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07-13-2018 , 09:05 PM

#106

5 south

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6,663

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Originally Posted by djevans

How can you find out for sure? I've searched for a while and found nothing about it. I even know club owners paying taxes on the profits.

If you run a home game and collect rake is that legal?
If there is a digital loophole then good for everyone.

Curious to know what secure app owners are moving to.

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07-14-2018 , 09:07 PM

#107

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56,893

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Originally Posted by thisisjimmybruv

Still waiting for your evidence.....not sure why you wouldnt of posted everything at once instead of days later especially if your so determined to warn people how shady this app really is

Yeah, these big "I'm about to post proof guys" lead-ups are lame, and almost never result in anything. Maybe this will be the exception.

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Originally Posted by LETIGRA

Still not proof of a rig

Definitely not; cherry-picking like this always skews those odds in an extreme way. Count all the billions of hands where this doesn't happen and of course no one posts about it, and suddenly it's not such a longshot.

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Originally Posted by LETIGRA

but show me that run out 3 or 4 times..

Yeah, that would definitely be of interest. As would 2 in a row if there are other anomalies to go with them.

Just post the evidence, and don't bother coming back with more anecdotes.

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07-14-2018 , 09:19 PM

#108

KptBomba

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 477

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Originally Posted by djevans

How can you find out for sure? I've searched for a while and found nothing about it. I even know club owners paying taxes on the profits.

The reality is that no one knows for sure. The way that the app is legal is it doesn't run games in money but in chips. Thats the novel approach that caused poker boom in many countries where poker has been illegal.

So you play in chips and basically you and the host/agent of the club agree that each chip is worth X $ and thats how it runs.

So much in the same way USA guys after Black Friday were playing home games play money on pokerstars and just agreeing among themselves that each play chip is worth X $/cents. There were huge clubs and people won milions $ in Pokerstars play money home games.

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07-15-2018 , 05:59 PM

#109

+VLFBERH+T

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 657

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Originally Posted by TimStone

recently it came to my attention that even pokercoaches of very well know sites are engaged in this behaviour and im on the edge of going ahead and starting a name and shame thread ...

If you have this information, what reason could you have to not share it??

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Originally Posted by TimStone

... even though its questionable how much this would really help

Of course it would help!

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07-17-2018 , 05:12 AM

#110

TimStone

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

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Originally Posted by +VLFBERH+T

If you have this information, what reason could you have to not share it??

Of course it would help!

mainly bc i cannot be 100% sure it is the guy i think it is and i cant drag somebody through the mud if i dont have 100% confirmation...

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07-18-2018 , 09:49 AM

#111

Purasevic

adept

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 768

https://gyazo.com/7e8194be559537c3f766b3e2755409c6

After new update we can tip virtual dealer,why is no one excited like me

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07-18-2018 , 11:09 AM

#112

MCAChiTown

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Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 3,531

LOL WUT? I don't play here. Can someone please explain?

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07-18-2018 , 01:39 PM

#113

kamuz

banned

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 114

Still waiting for ‘evidences’

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07-20-2018 , 02:29 PM

#114

+VLFBERH+T

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 657

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Originally Posted by kamuz

Still waiting for ‘evidences’

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07-20-2018 , 02:43 PM

#115

kamuz

banned

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 114

Gotta vent that anger at something imo

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07-21-2018 , 10:09 PM

#116

TS2

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,505

spoke to some people they dont file ctr's follow title 31 or anything. Im assuming that means 0 regulation.

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07-22-2018 , 05:36 PM

#117

Matt24

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Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 9,199

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Originally Posted by Purasevic

https://gyazo.com/7e8194be559537c3f766b3e2755409c6

After new update we can tip virtual dealer,why is no one excited like me

this update is so brutal

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07-23-2018 , 02:10 AM

#118

Eric Stoner

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 636

The dealer is so annoying. Who thought this would be a great idea?

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07-23-2018 , 02:21 AM

#119

MCAChiTown

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Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 3,531

Please tell me if I have this correct.

Essentially you play with play money chips that your agent gives value to, right? So what is the point of giving chips to the virtual dealer as a tip and who gets to keep those chips if you do tip the virtual dealer? Why is tipping in online poker a thing?

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07-23-2018 , 02:57 AM

#120

thisisjimmybruv

centurion

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 197

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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown

For better luck ofcourse.....

So whos your favourite dealer emma or Victoria,i havnt brought Victoria yet though

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07-23-2018 , 01:07 PM

#121

The Apex

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 3,603

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Originally Posted by MCAChiTown

Don’t think anyone gets that money that you would tip. You just get less on your next cashout from agent. I doubt you’d see many players using this feature since you’re just torching the money.

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07-23-2018 , 01:41 PM

#122

Carl Trooper

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,681

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Originally Posted by The Apex

Don’t think anyone gets that money that you would tip. You just get less on your next cashout from agent. I doubt you’d see many players using this feature since you’re just torching the money.

You aren’t tipping money. You’re tipping diamonds

You have to pay real $ from the Apple store to get diamonds. Diamonds allow you to throw emojis at people, throw stuff at the dealer and get an extended time bank (the real thing worthwhile)

My recommendation is to buy a VIP card that way you get free emojis to use. It’s super tilting to be hit with a pile of crap after you lose a 1k pot. And also hilarious.

<3 pppoker.

I do all my cash games there, leave tourneys for ignition.

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07-24-2018 , 10:37 AM

#123

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56,893

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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar

i imagine different pppoker agents read this thread and may contact you now that you've posted here. make sure you do your research and (like with any other situation like this) pick a reputable agent who offers you help/info/a setup that you're comfy with!

Yes, I imagine they will, and if anyone gets such PMs, I'd love to hear about them.

In case anyone's not clear on this, PMing someone with your affiliate/agent deals is every bit as unacceptable as posting them is - and PPPoker affiliates are the current champs when it comes to spamming our forums.

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07-24-2018 , 11:15 AM

#124

Saksoskunk

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 7

How long do i have to wait to go south in this app. Having to buy in for full amount won on a table the day prior.

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07-24-2018 , 01:29 PM

#125

Matt24

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 9,199

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Originally Posted by Saksoskunk

How long do i have to wait to go south in this app. Having to buy in for full amount won on a table the day prior.

You have to wait til that table shuts down completely. You will see the countdown timer in the upper right corner. If the game is still full and the club is paying attention they will buy more time and keep the table open longer, so it's completely possible the same table could be open for a week and you'd never be able to change your buyin.

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