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02-04-2008 , 06:06 PM
Showing hole cards face up when all-in on ring tables would be a great feature. Personally I know 2 total fish from my local casino that play on Full Tilt just for that reason, strange but true. It may be only a few seconds, an im usually busy on another table if im allin but the fish like the gamble and fun of it.

NO BET POT BUTTON !!!!!!! I can't stress this enough, let the donks min-bet and overbet away imo.
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02-04-2008 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cakewalk
whenever you accidentally click fold, you are prompted with a popup to check or fold, making it impossible to bet.

fix this
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02-04-2008 , 06:37 PM
I don't like the accidental clicking on fold thing. But I think it's a good thing that it doesn't do it for you automatically.

If you really wanted to bet then you shouldn't have been 'accidentally' clicking fold in the first place. So I'm not that bothered by this aspect. but I would definitely benefit a couple times a day if I was given an option to bet after an accidental fold button hit.
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02-04-2008 , 06:46 PM
Most sites have a "Free Check - Warning" that each player can turn on/off in the Options.

Last edited by fozzy71; 02-04-2008 at 06:46 PM. Reason: Not Stars, ldo.
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02-05-2008 , 01:00 PM
Keep the feedback coming guys. We keep a 'wish list' of ideas from all sources so I'll make sure the suggestions in this thread are added. Don't forget to email ideas@pokerstars.com too.

A bit of feedback to the obvious questions:

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The main advantage at playing at Tilt is players get to sit right in middle of the table. When you are multi tabling this makes a huge difference because you know exactly where you are and everything is balanced on the screen.
Go to 'Options' > 'Preferred Seat'. There you can set your preferred seat for each kind of table. You can also right click an icon at any table and click 'Sit Here'.

If you mean that you want to sit in the absolute centre of each table... that's much more difficult.

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I think one of the bigger errors in the PS software is in the limit games.

Example: 5/10 limit. Blinds 2/5. Player A has $9.50 and open raises all-in UTG. The next players options are fold, call or raise to $10.
Could you please provide a HH or hand number where this happens so I can look at it more closely?

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Speaking of which, stop the tables from stealing the curser when it pops up
Go to 'Options' > 'Advanced Multi-Table Options' and turn off 'Pop Up Table Whenever User Action is Required', and the tables will no longer steal focus from other applications. Be careful though.

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Dont have the site auto update itself to remove none standard image mods every single time you use the update program
If you use a theme that has been properly developed to be compliant with our Themes system, this won't happen. There is a guide here:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/down...1%5D.9.3.5.zip

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When playing tourneys there is absolutely no reason why the lobby needs to pop up when the game starts.
You can turn this off under 'Advanced Multi-Table Options' too, for SNGs at least.

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Don't auto minimize the main lobby when I open a table
Sorry, this is absolutely necessary and is extremely unlikely to change.

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get rid of short stackers. its sooo ethically wrong
No it isn't.

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I would also like that if people who have their chat banned, when you highlight there name it says so
For privacy reasons I doubt this will ever happen.

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PLEASE give us the option to turn the News Pop-up off.
I brought this up recently and was told this would not be changing (although we might make it no longer pop up when trivial changes to the message are made).

Keep the suggestions coming.
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02-05-2008 , 01:15 PM
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Go to 'Options' > 'Advanced Multi-Table Options' and turn off 'Pop Up Table Whenever User Action is Required', and the tables will no longer steal focus from other applications. Be careful though.

It shouldn't be hard to show the table at which action is required without stealing the cursor.
So many times I am trying to rebuy at one table and the cursor gets stolen to the next table. I can't play with the 'pop-up table action' thing.
I've gine up on being able to take any notes at all when I'm multi-tabling. It always ends up in the chat-box of some other table.
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02-05-2008 , 01:17 PM
Can you add an option to stand up at a table and sit down at a different seat like FT? Like if a seat to the left of a fish becomes available you can move yourself there.
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02-05-2008 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
I've gine up on being able to take any notes at all when I'm multi-tabling. It always ends up in the chat-box of some other table.
That must be embarrassing if you type notes like 'complete and utter donk', like I do.

Thanks for clarifying - added to the list.
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02-05-2008 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
It shouldn't be hard to show the table at which action is required without stealing the cursor.
So many times I am trying to rebuy at one table and the cursor gets stolen to the next table. I can't play with the 'pop-up table action' thing.
I've gine up on being able to take any notes at all when I'm multi-tabling. It always ends up in the chat-box of some other table.
I use the Keyboard Redirect AHK script, and have very little problems with ALL of the Advanced Multi-Table Options turned ON

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If you use a theme that has been properly developed to be compliant with our Themes system, this won't happen. There is a guide here:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/down...1%5D.9.3.5.zip
Correct THEMES dont get overwritten each update - the Custom Card Mods that go into the "Simplified" deck are over-written every update.

It is soo much of a pain that I purposely bypass your silly "Update Every Freakin Launch . EXE" to avoid it.
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02-05-2008 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
When running out of time we get a noise and a tiny bit of text that's hard to spot quickly when multi-tabling. I'd like a big visual clue as to which table(s) need action.
I sent stars an email about this a while ago, asking to have a visual indicator of how much time we have before our time bank gets activated just like ftp has. It sucks when my time bank slowly gets eatin away by this and when I need some time to think I end up with only 7 secs or so.
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02-05-2008 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Scott
That must be embarrassing if you type notes like 'complete and utter donk', like I do.

Thanks for clarifying - added to the list.

Glad your listening Alex and I hope this situation changes.
It should be noted that this isn't exactly a new complaint. This has been mentioned dozens of times by people on here over ther years.
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02-05-2008 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nicefish
Please make it a check instead of instatfold when you get timed out if there has not been a bet when the action gets to you.

We are supposed to be playing a skilled game so this instafold does not make sense?

BTW, has anyone from Stars responded in anyway to the thread or we are all just having a party of our own here.
pokerstarsjeff has posted many times throughout this thread
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02-05-2008 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PartysOver
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whenever you accidentally click fold, you are prompted with a popup to check or fold, making it impossible to bet.

fix this
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Nothing sucks more than mis-click/checking the nuts on the river when you were doing something else over the table and your action pops the window up.
Ok, there are things that suck more, but this does suck pretty hard.
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02-05-2008 , 02:18 PM
Can you make it an option how much you buy-in for? Tilt has that and it's nice to not have to change my buy-in every time. I know it won't help people buying in for really small amounts, but it is nice.

With showing hole cards when all-in in cash games, what if you have the option, and if both people have checked the option to show, then the cards are shown?
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02-05-2008 , 03:32 PM
I just got done a session of 12 tabling FR and I was thinking how about making all the tables the same. No more fast and normal tables, just make one type where the cards are dealt real fast and keep all the time to act and time banks the same. Also either maker the checkmark box either a sit out next bb or autopost box, when Im playing 12 tables I have to sit there and figure out what kind of table Im out just to make sure I dont post the next bb when Im done or make a button for that makes all tables sit out on the next bb. I hate missing a table and having to wait 10-15 minutes for the bb to come around again.
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02-05-2008 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cakewalk
whenever you accidentally click fold, you are prompted with a popup to check or fold, making it impossible to bet.

fix this
+1
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02-05-2008 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 1p0kerboy
Hahahahaha.

Professional poker players aren't hurting anybody. In fact, I specifically know more than one situation where a professional player is now able to contribute more to society because he/she now has excess money/time. This is mostly done through his/her church but also other charitable organizations.

Judging someone's character on the job he or she works is pretty shallow imo, especially in this situation because poker is a legalized, fun form of entertainment.

I'm not quite sure where all of this nonsense is being spouted off from, other than your desire to defend ratholing. But even in that case, almost all players are against shortstackers because they ruin the fun of the game. This is true for bad players, recreational players, amateur players, professional players, winning players, losing players, etc.

I mean, do you seriously only seek out tables that have professional players on them so that you can make their lives more difficult because you don't agree with what they do for a living? No. You can't. You can't because you have absolutely no way of knowing which players are professionals and which are not. But also you can't be that much against pros becuase you ARE ONE!

So if you want to defend the ethics of ratholing, please pursue a different avenue. And stop calling the kettle black.
sorry to hi-jack, but take everything you just wrote and put in pro ratholers for professional poker players


I was trying to make my point in a clever way when I saw the ethical bashing of shortstackers

I accomplished just that






to everyone else,
yes, I do struggle to sleep at night because of my occupation as a pro gambler.... it's about the biggest waste ever
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02-05-2008 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
sorry to hi-jack, but take everything you just wrote and put in pro ratholers for professional poker players


I was trying to make my point in a clever way when I saw the ethical bashing of shortstackers

I accomplished just that






to everyone else,
yes, I do struggle to sleep at night because of my occupation as a pro gambler.... it's about the biggest waste ever
If u played in a home game with a bunch of ur friends and u continually bought in for 20bbs and then left the table when u doubled up and then did the same thing agian 30 mins later multiple times throughout the night. I bet everyone playing would be pissed at u and would want u in the next game, I wouldnt be surprised if this was the cause of some threats or starting some fights. I got nothing agianst shortstacking at all but ratholing is just a dick move.
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02-05-2008 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
sorry to hi-jack, but take everything you just wrote and put in pro ratholers for professional poker players


I was trying to make my point in a clever way when I saw the ethical bashing of shortstackers

I accomplished just that






to everyone else,
yes, I do struggle to sleep at night because of my occupation as a pro gambler.... it's about the biggest waste ever

myturn - I haven't been by lately to see if you found it...but somebody started a new thread on the topic of 'pro poker players being the scourge of society' or whatever.
That thread has since been moved to NVG. If you want to continue this discussion then perhaps some of the posts in there would be of interest.
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02-05-2008 , 07:30 PM
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get rid of short stackers. its sooo ethically wrong
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Originally Posted by Alex Scott
No it isn't.
Do you have a stance on rat-holing? (The practice of profiting, leaving for 30 minutes, and then returning without risking winnings).

I think that it's not the shortstacking that people think is unethical, it's the fact that they can double up and then return in 30 minutes only to buy in for the minimum again. This would be highly, highly frowned upon in live casinos, and I was just curious if PokerStars has a stance on this?
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02-05-2008 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
myturn - I haven't been by lately to see if you found it...but somebody started a new thread on the topic of 'pro poker players being the scourge of society' or whatever.
That thread has since been moved to NVG. If you want to continue this discussion then perhaps some of the posts in there would be of interest.
ty

I just brought it up here because I see the hate towards ratholers as being very analogous
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02-05-2008 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KLJ
Do you have a stance on rat-holing? (The practice of profiting, leaving for 30 minutes, and then returning without risking winnings).

I think that it's not the shortstacking that people think is unethical, it's the fact that they can double up and then return in 30 minutes only to buy in for the minimum again. This would be highly, highly frowned upon in live casinos, and I was just curious if PokerStars has a stance on this?
Please get your facts straight.

At the 3 largest poker rooms in the world, you can not buy in for more than the table maximum eg, The commerce runs a 2/3 NL 100 game. If you triple up to 300, but want to table change, you are required to have no more than 100 at the new table. The only way to bring over the $300 is if the table is broken and even then you have the option to go to the new table at 100 or the amount you left at. This is identicle at the Bike and Hawaiian Gardens.
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02-05-2008 , 07:55 PM
I agree with a "sit out all tables" button, for those multi-tabler's who need the occasional bathroom break, and don't want to piss in a bottle.
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02-05-2008 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Scott
No it isn't.
OK so shortstacking isn't an ethical concern, even though some here (not me) have claimed that it is. But answering that complaint is ignoring the more reasonable request: Some of us want to play on tables without shortstackers, why won't you give us the option? Yes I know 'deepstack' tables with bigger MAX buyins have failed elsewhere. But what about just raising the minimum buyin?
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02-05-2008 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ackbleh
But what about just raising the minimum buyin?
Yes, please.
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