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12-20-2008 , 07:24 PM
stop popping up tables when u intentionally sit out on them. if u timeout-sitout on tables they shouldnt popup either, but should keep flashing.
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12-20-2008 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by skillgambler
stop popping up tables when u intentionally sit out on them. if u timeout-sitout on tables they shouldnt popup either, but should keep flashing.
THIS!!!
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12-21-2008 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by VP$IP
You are partially correct. The players who care will spend the 500 FPPs to change their name as often as they want to. The players who do not care will not spend the 500 FPPs to change their name. (They will use their FPPs to get a cool baseball cap instead).

What is the horrible part? Is poker supposed to be a form of communism?
Maybe not communism, but democracy. You are supposed to sit down at a table and regardless of your wealth and connections and power, be able to compete at equal level - without a rigged deck, bribed dealers, bought hide identities or other creative ideas.
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12-21-2008 , 04:18 AM
i think a combination of a free name change every 6 months + additional name changes for 500 FPP each would be good.
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12-21-2008 , 04:52 AM
Allowing constant name changes for a nominal fee is ******ed. It only serves to benefit regulars and virtually eliminates the ability for users to help identify collusion.

Allowing name changes every few months would be fine, but allowing regs to essentially change names after every session is absolutely ridiculous.
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12-21-2008 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by blackize
Allowing constant name changes for a nominal fee is ******ed. It only serves to benefit regulars and virtually eliminates the ability for users to help identify collusion.

Allowing name changes every few months would be fine, but allowing regs to essentially change names after every session is absolutely ridiculous.
Never allowing name changes is also ridiculous.
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12-21-2008 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DerekJCEX
so what happens to the grinder when you change your screen name? you are now an unknown player with the huge advantage of having your reads on him from playing many hands together without him having any clue.
It will balance out when he changes his name. He is a grinder so he will know about name changing.

You could restrict name changes to the month of Jan and July if that makes you feel better. Then everyone is changing at the same time (more or less)

I'm not saying name changing is ideal but datamining (i.e. 3rd party datamining or logging in and observing while you sleep) is hard to stop...
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12-21-2008 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sodom
Maybe not communism, but democracy. You are supposed to sit down at a table and regardless of your wealth and connections and power, be able to compete at equal level - without a rigged deck, bribed dealers, bought hide identities or other creative ideas.
How about "not having purchased a datamined DB" as part of that level playing field? The request for allowing name changes is not for its own sake -- it is in response to not wanting to be datamined. NOTE: I use the term "datamine" to refer to observed hands or 3rd party collected data. I think players are entitled to hand history data for hands they actually play.
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12-21-2008 , 06:33 AM
Changes I want that probably won't implemented forever:
Name changes
NL cash games with antes
200bb+ deep tables
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12-21-2008 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by funkyj
How about "not having purchased a datamined DB" as part of that level playing field? The request for allowing name changes is not for its own sake -- it is in response to not wanting to be datamined. NOTE: I use the term "datamine" to refer to observed hands or 3rd party collected data. I think players are entitled to hand history data for hands they actually play.
For obvious reason I think internetpoker will die if the sophisticated computer system allows to continue to track down players and map every tendencies they have. That is the reason I advocate frequent screen name changes - like every week - and I think it shall be obligatory.

Of course this is not any ideal change so if there are better ways to decrease the edge for these PT/HEM/HUD/Datamines players, I would be glad.

Another angel, which I also are open for is to make all possible computer power free available for every player within the client. So every time a player login to PS he have all players mapped by statistics - every hand, every game. Just sit down and play. But that is of course an effective way to kill the human factor of poker, but that is in fact the advantage the players who use all available computer power today have. Imo this edge have to be obstructed.
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12-21-2008 , 08:34 AM
People make some good points for why name changing would be good, but I've not seen anyone address the best reason not to allow it:

If players could change their names frequently, other players wouldn't be able to detect collusion, cheating, etc.
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12-21-2008 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by skillgambler
stop popping up tables when u intentionally sit out on them. if u timeout-sitout on tables they shouldnt popup either, but should keep flashing.
Definitely agree on the first point, but when you timeout on one table you usually timeout on 3,4,5 at once pop pop pop and it is nice to be able to sit back in just as fast pop pop pop pop without having to fish out each table seperately on top of your busy actions.
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12-21-2008 , 10:34 AM
I would like to suggest that the PS client lobby should have an option where you could minimise it to the tray.

I personally would dock the lobby there when multitabling and when I am not playing at PS.

Cheers

Harry
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12-21-2008 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by random hater
Definitely agree on the first point, but when you timeout on one table you usually timeout on 3,4,5 at once pop pop pop and it is nice to be able to sit back in just as fast pop pop pop pop without having to fish out each table seperately on top of your busy actions.
finish your busy actions first. you're already sitting out on the other tables, doesnt matter if u insta-sit-back-in or if you sit in after 10seconds.

when stacking the sitout tables pop over the tables that await action, so it just slows down the other tables too
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12-21-2008 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sodom
Of course this is not any ideal change so if there are better ways to decrease the edge for these PT/HEM/HUD/Datamines players, I would be glad.
There are a wide spectrum of views regarding HUDs and DBs. I hold to what appears to be the PokerStars official stance: I think HUDs and DBs are fine as long as all your DB data comes from your own play.

I am against mining observed hands or getting 3rd party DB data.

As for people with DBs/HUDs having an advantage over players without these tools, too bad. B&M players who don't own Caro's book of Poker Tells are also at a great disadvantage when playing folks who have read this book. If you don't want HUDs and DBs, play B&M rather than internet poker.

Regarding name changes and detecting cheaters-- that is a good point. While name changes would not make it harder for PokerStars to detect cheating, community policing is an important aspect of keeping online poker honest. I suspect that allowing name changes as distant intervals (e.g. once every new year) would be a good compromise.

On the other hand, I'm uncertain whether the treatment (allowing name changes) is worse than the disease (3rd party and observed hand data mining) or not.
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12-21-2008 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by funkyj
I think HUDs and DBs are fine as long as all your DB data comes from your own play.
I am against mining observed hands or getting 3rd party DB data.

As for people with DBs/HUDs having an advantage over players without these tools, too bad. B&M players who don't own Caro's book of Poker Tells are also at a great disadvantage when playing folks who have read this book. If you don't want HUDs and DBs, play B&M rather than internet poker.
excellent post
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12-22-2008 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ackbleh
People make some good points for why name changing would be good, but I've not seen anyone address the best reason not to allow it:

If players could change their names frequently, other players wouldn't be able to detect collusion, cheating, etc.
Not necessarily. The site could include the permanent user name in hand histories that they send for previous sessions, say up until yesterday.

This would allow for community policing and at the same time you could play without worrying that your opponent -- who you've never played before -- has a HUD showing your precise 13x13 hand distribution after you open-raise from the cutoff.

-pyg
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12-22-2008 , 05:37 AM
If your game is heads-up, and then the game breaks up, the "Current Hand" and "Previous Hand" links to the instant hand history window... disappear!

Please don't make the links disappear. When the villain puts a bad beat on me the last hand of the session, I want to wallow in it by reliving the hand over and over.

-pyg
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12-22-2008 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pygmyhipo
If your game is heads-up, and then the game breaks up, the "Current Hand" and "Previous Hand" links to the instant hand history window... disappear!

Please don't make the links disappear. When the villain puts a bad beat on me the last hand of the session, I want to wallow in it by reliving the hand over and over.

-pyg
Requests > Display Instant Hand History
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12-22-2008 , 09:25 AM
$ in BBs please
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12-22-2008 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Al1
$ in BBs please
Trust me, it doesnt do any good to keep requesting the same thing yourself.*

Last edited by fozzy71; 12-22-2008 at 09:39 AM. Reason: Otherwise we would have Pot Limit Badugi and a Custom Cards Menu.
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12-22-2008 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ackbleh
People make some good points for why name changing would be good, but I've not seen anyone address the best reason not to allow it:

If players could change their names frequently, other players wouldn't be able to detect collusion, cheating, etc.
yep

I'm against name changes

remember the high stakes collusion at FTP?
It would get much easier if one could change names every week or month.

If we can only change every 6 months, what good does that do. It takes like 3 days for the regs to spot who you likely are.

Name changes are not the path when I used to think they were.
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12-22-2008 , 02:36 PM
Add $200 Double or Nothing Tournaments.

The $104 Double or Nothing Turbos coexist perfectly fine with the $114 Turbos and the $119 Turbo 6-Max. Adding $200 Double or Nothings will add more higher limit action not cannibalize it.
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12-22-2008 , 02:48 PM
I'm playing on some cash tables that instead of a name, has T# 24325235253....
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12-22-2008 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Scott
Requests > Display Instant Hand History
Yes, and Ctrl-I lets me do it without opening the lobby. But it does not pop open to the last hand in question, and probably shows a hand from some other table. So you have to hunt through the table list and then scroll the list of hands all the way down to find the one you want.

Much easier to just click the link. That's why they added it to the table in the first place

Obviously a very minor request compared to things like bet chips not being swept into the pot!

-pyg
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