PokerStars Roundtable 12-12-13 - Page 2 - Internet Poker

what is the problem with 40bb? many players want to play as high as possible so sit with 400 at 5/10 and not with 400 at 2/4. i think the shortstackers are weaker than 100bb players in general so it is an advantage for the good players to keep it.

read this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/96...tacks-1253293/

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Originally Posted by slipslope

Lee Jones,

What are Pokerstars plans regarding Hud use? Any possibility of a symbol next to the players screenname designating they are using a Hud?

Jess

what plans? HUD's are a problem?

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12-13-2012 , 05:19 PM

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kribu

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+1 need to know more about SS.

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12-13-2012 , 05:20 PM

#28

slipslope

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Im not saying they are a problem, just that it would be nice to know who is using them. I use Pt4 but Im sure there are plenty of rec players that have quit after they found out people are using additional software. I would at least like to know what % of my opponents are using them. If huds are accepted (which they are) then accept them.

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12-13-2012 , 06:12 PM

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Ricepaw1226

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Originally Posted by Andre_787

Lee, any thoughts about shortstacking problem at cash games?

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Originally Posted by Mr.McNitt

What about the shortstacking and ratholing?

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Originally Posted by riksanchez

+1
Full-ring at 200nl+ is swarmed with them .40bbers now take up most the seats at these tables and the situation seems to be getting worse. Really dont understand why stars doesnt even want to acknowledge the problem, let alone do something about it.

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Originally Posted by LazyAce

+1 to news about shortstacking/ratholing in NL Full ring games.

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Originally Posted by FR-Nit

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Originally Posted by Mexican_Natis

Lookin like my ticket reads i'm somewhere around +6 to this.

Mr. Jones,
This is obviously and easily the most talked about issue regarding Pokerstars and possibly the Poker World right now. I also believe it was the most talked about issue at the recent 'Player Rep' meeting as well.
Can we please get a comment from Pokerstars regarding this issue, as you can see it is pretty important to a lot of players. A lot of very loyal customers of Pokerstars have put a lot of time and effort into this issue, at the least we deserve a comment on when we can expect a comment.

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Originally Posted by wompwompwomp

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Originally Posted by Madjohnny

I know this thread is about Stars but shortstacking on full tilt is also a problem.

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Originally Posted by MeleaB

+1 to info re: short-stacking infestation; the ONLY issue of interest/relevance to many players. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

+1 to info on SS situation

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Originally Posted by kribu

+1 need to know more about SS.

this is out of 27 comments.

The people in the *** The Official Make the Stud Game Structure a Bit More Consistent in Terms of the Size of the Antes and Bring-ins Relative to the Stakes Thread *** will be ecstatic though.

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12-13-2012 , 06:54 PM

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JMKPUNTER

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Y'all silly. Poker is dead.

We all complain that there are over 50% of players using less than 50bb, therefore we are Stars problem as we generate less than half the rake. I won't be surprised if they drop it back to 20bb to please the majority of their non English speaking clients.

Stars owe Poker nothing. I'm pretty sure the owners couldn't tell you how many cards you get dealt in NLHE littleown beat $2 NL even employing the Bots and 40bb that they love so much.

They know nobody else can compete, because players are pretty much all grimming thieves.

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12-13-2012 , 07:41 PM

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Mexican_Natis

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Originally Posted by Ricepaw1226

The people in the *** The Official Make the Stud Game Structure a Bit More Consistent in Terms of the Size of the Antes and Bring-ins Relative to the Stakes Thread *** will be ecstatic though.

I didn't know people who played Stud knew how to use the internets...

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12-13-2012 , 07:45 PM

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ladybruin

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Originally Posted by Andre_787

Lee, what about shortstacking problem at cash games?

+ what ever number we are up to.

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12-13-2012 , 08:42 PM

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esmeralda

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Can we please get some info regarding shortstacking/ratholing situation?

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12-13-2012 , 08:56 PM

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Slugant

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its quite obvious stars people are reading this thread
and we as loyal regs are aware of that
not one response, not even a simple 'we are discussing it' or whatever would be nice, but this silence is utterly disrespectful

in an other thread there was a volume pool between a select group of people, a stars rep commented o so quickly that stars shouldnt be used for that kind of things.
while those volume prop bets are so insignificant compared to the shortstacker issue.
so please stars, invest your time wisely, and respond here where people are waiting for some clarity

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12-13-2012 , 09:05 PM

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x_ROSH125_x

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Lee,

Are there any plans to increase to minimum buy-in for cash ring games?

There are lots of players who play with the minimum stack size and then as soon as they double up they leave the table. It's not really in the spirit of the game.

And

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12-13-2012 , 09:27 PM

#36

omnishakira

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Congratulation OP, you have succesfully talked about everything but the all the important matters

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12-13-2012 , 09:30 PM

#37

Jafeeio

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+ 3 fiddy

I play with 40bbs and I would appreciate an answer in this regard as well since my planning for the next year obviously greatly depends on the decision (or nondecision) in this case.

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12-13-2012 , 09:38 PM

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Mexican_Natis

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I actually feel bad this thread is heading in this direction, as Lee Jones is one of the true really good guys in the game and has done more for Pokerstars than just about anyone.

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12-13-2012 , 10:33 PM

#39

shimmy

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Hi Lee, why won't Stars even acknowledge there is anything to discuss with regard to PLO rake?

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12-13-2012 , 10:39 PM

#40

Do it Right

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Originally Posted by Mexican_Natis

I actually feel bad this thread is heading in this direction, as Lee Jones is one of the true really good guys in the game and has done more for Pokerstars than just about anyone.

I don't think anybody is attacking Lee, but he has put himself in the situation of being the mouth piece for a company that many people are increasingly dissatisfied with. I'm sure he appreciates that people aren't upset with him, but with the situation. This isn't the same Stars that he helped build up and it's starting to look like his hands are just completely tied here. I actually thought he had quit since he hadn't made a single post in 1.5 months. It's gotta be tough when you've signed on to a contract with a job description that involves defending an establishment you likely also personally see as increasingly broken.

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12-13-2012 , 10:41 PM

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Ricepaw1226

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the first rule of Sser Club is.. you do NOT talk about Sser Club.

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12-13-2012 , 10:43 PM

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Ricepaw1226

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Originally Posted by Andre_787

wp btw

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12-13-2012 , 11:32 PM

#43

Mexican_Natis

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Originally Posted by Ricepaw1226

the first rule of Sser Club is.. you do NOT talk about Sser Club.

I thought that was the 2nd rule and the 1st rule of Sser Club is.. you do NOT order a Vodka & Red Bull anymore.

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12-13-2012 , 11:42 PM

#44

eaglesfaan

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Some answers on the shortstacking situation would be nice. I think you can tell where I stand on the situation based on my avatar

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12-13-2012 , 11:49 PM

#45

Mrtrebus

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Originally Posted by Slugant

You're been ridiculous. He answered the first few questions at 5pm IOM time, do you expect him to sit there all night? I'm sure he'll be back answering questions within his normal working hours.

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12-13-2012 , 11:58 PM

#46

antchev

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What about the recent discussion about the min buy in in the PLO games?

regarding possible minimum buy-in changes at Pokerstars PLO standard cash tables

Steve participated in it but it's been a while since he posted in the thread. Do you consider some of the good ideas that have come out of it?

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12-14-2012 , 01:27 AM

#47

luckproof

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+1 to commenting on PLO Rake
+1 to commenting on the soulless shortstacking rat-holing whore problem

Thanks for the 2 Q/A on open-face Chinese poker though, I can finally get back to sleep

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12-14-2012 , 02:14 AM

#48

cbt

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Originally Posted by luckproof

+1 to commenting on PLO Rake
+1 to commenting on the soulless shortstacking rat-holing whore problem

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12-14-2012 , 03:27 AM

#49

Eto Demerzel

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Originally Posted by luckproof

+1 to commenting on PLO Rake
+1 to commenting on the soulless shortstacking rat-holing whore problem

This please.

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12-14-2012 , 06:53 AM

#50

Sect7G

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Are there any chances to have the 3-6 LHE Blind structure moved from 1-3 to 1.5-3. This would make the blinds more consistant for players playing the 1-2 to 3-6 tables. While multitabling it's tough to adjust to the different blinds. + this format would make Stars a lot more money by helping recreationals last longer due to their loose style and would make you guys a few pennies extra every hand.

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