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11-07-2015 , 10:15 AM
-Stop lowering tournament guarantees. It's embarrassing, Pokerstars needs a "Guarantee Boost" promo on certain tournaments to bring them back to the same guarantees or less they used to be.

-Stop ****ing over Supernovas and Supernovas Elite. Do you know how to run a friggen business and keep customer loyalty?
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11-07-2015 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Reefypoopoo
-Stop lowering tournament guarantees. It's embarrassing, Pokerstars needs a "Guarantee Boost" promo on certain tournaments to bring them back to the same guarantees or less they used to be.
Most of the tourneys have got their old gtds back - for example sunday storm, super tuesday and as far as I know they have not reduced any guarantees recently

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Originally Posted by Reefypoopoo
-Stop ****ing over Supernovas and Supernovas Elite. Do you know how to run a friggen business and keep customer loyalty?
I think they discontinued SNE for the same reason why BoP was discontinued - they were not bringing them new players. I wonder why there was no outrage by regs for discontinuing BoP
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11-07-2015 , 11:09 AM
in this thread annoying whining regs bashing a basic stars employee.

find a new job or stop being rude with this guy. he's just here to inform us and answering questions about promos, and this is pretty nice.
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11-07-2015 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HotCosby
in this thread annoying whining regs bashing a basic stars employee.

find a new job or stop being rude with this guy. he's just here to inform us and answering questions about promos, and this is pretty nice.
LOL, you'd probably be in the same boat had you actually put some volume on stars. Take your single digit post total and get off your high horse. I can't play on P.S. as I reside in FLA so I'm not a reg. anymore.

That doesn't mean I don't care that P.S. is screwing over their customers, ruining their brand that used to put customers first, not dead last and being the biggest, honest poker site left.

Some of us know the mod isn't to blame, we're not all narrow-minded like you.
I'm sure you don't mind, you probably benefit from these changes the most.
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11-07-2015 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by playr
spins and pca puzze have nothing to do with mtts, and this promotion is about tournaments.
The PCA puzzle has to do something with MTTs because it gives tickets to the PCA Main Event, which is obviously an MTT (which is even on the 'bucket lists' of some MTT lovers), and it requires playing in a PCA satellite, which can be an MTT or an SnG.

Besides, it's rather normal that not all game variations are covered by a featured promotion at any given moment. E.g. when there are big MTT series, there's usually no big ring game promo at the same time. A poker site can't steer the player base to different game types at the same time. If it needs to ensure that big event guarantees are meant, then it needs to discourage people from ring games temporarily.

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Originally Posted by anuj22
I wonder why there was no outrage by regs for discontinuing BoP
There was some discontent (in the STT forum), but the promo was giving like 5% extra rakeback on average, so its removal wasn't that big a deal.

Last edited by coon74; 11-07-2015 at 02:49 PM.
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11-07-2015 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jussblaze420
LOL, you'd probably be in the same boat had you actually put some volume on stars. Take your single digit post total and get off your high horse. I can't play on P.S. as I reside in FLA so I'm not a reg. anymore.

That doesn't mean I don't care that P.S. is screwing over their customers, ruining their brand that used to put customers first, not dead last and being the biggest, honest poker site left.

Some of us know the mod isn't to blame, we're not all narrow-minded like you.
I'm sure you don't mind, you probably benefit from these changes the most.
There is already a thread on that matter, please keep this thread clean. TY

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Originally Posted by coon74
There was some discontent (in the STT forum), but the promo was giving like 5% extra rakeback on average, so its removal wasn't that big a deal.
That promo only runs for few days in a year :/

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve
We would replace this promotion with the below promotions which would award players with slightly more money overall. Your feedback on this plan is appreciated.

Three main goals of the change are to:
1) Give all Sit & Go players an opportunity to benefit from our Sit & Go promotions
2) Have something 'new' and 'fresh' to motivate new players to play Sit & Go tournaments, instead of the same promotion running constantly
3) Reward recreational players more and in a way that is more interesting to them


Promotion 1
Players will be able to claim a free Sit & Go entry in return for a minimum deposit amount. Multiple award levels ranging from $1.50 ticket for $10 deposit to $30 ticket for $100 deposit.
Frequency: Once
Prize Total: ~$1,000,000


Promotion 2
5 separate bankroll challenges that players can enter as many times as they like within an 11 day period. Players will then have 20 days to complete each challenge.

For each of the five challenges, all players successfully completing the requirements will earn equal shares of a $100,000 prize pool. The bankroll challenges are:
-Turn $3 into $30 at S&G, playing only S&G with entry of $2 or less
-Turn $10 into $100 at S&G, playing only S&G with entry of $5 or less
-Turn $30 into $300 at S&G, playing only S&G with entry of $15 or less
-Turn $100 into $1,000 at S&G, playing only S&G with entry of $50 or less
-Turn $300 into $3,000 at S&G, playing only S&G with entry of $150 or less

Frequency: Once
Prize Total: $500,000


Promotion 3
Sit & Go Tournaments are chosen at random to have prize boosts. Probability of a SNG being selected will be based on rake % and # of entrants, awarding a reasonably flat expected value of 'rewards %' in terms of rake across all SNG. Details of rewards may change, but one configuration could be:
Bronze S&G: prize pool doubled; most common
Silver S&G: prize pool doubled and all players get entry back
Golden S&G: prize pool multiplied by 10 and all players get 2x entry back. Quite rare

Frequency: Twice
Prize Total: ~$1,000,000 ($500k X 2)


Promotion 4
Sit & Go Happy Hours. 50% Extra VPPs and FPPs awarded at all SNG except HU, which will receive 30% extra VPP/FPP only to curb potential abuse by SNE. This might be run concurrently with ring games happy hours or alone as a separate promotion, most likely some combination of both throughout the year.

We could run an extra HUSNG specific happy hour promo to make up for the lower VPP/FPP boost %.

Frequency: Four times
Prize Total ~$1,000,000 ($250k X 4)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...26&postcount=1

Never seen Promotion 2 run even once, and the rest of the promotions hardly run for 7-10 days which is sad
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11-10-2015 , 10:19 PM
It really is a bummer that there are no MM this year. I am not a professional by any means and can't afford to play any events over $10 except the odd major. I was really looking forward to the MM as it makes me feel like I can have a cool schedule of events to compete in. I actually deposited more money last month to try and build my BR up just so I could play in some of the MM I really enjoy. Now what is a guy like me supposed to play that is really fun?
Sincerely, a sad MM fan
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11-11-2015 , 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
There is already a thread on that matter, please keep this thread clean. TY



That promo only runs for few days in a year :/



http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...26&postcount=1

Never seen Promotion 2 run even once, and the rest of the promotions hardly run for 7-10 days which is sad
I recall this detail too. Yet another way that Pstars failed to deliver on promises. This type of deception gives no one hope that anything good will come next year in the way of promos.

There are two ways to run a business and make money.

1) Profit by scale
2) Profit by monetizing current player base.

1) Occurred from 2001-2010
2) Has been happening since 2011.

The problem with the second is there's a short window and what many are concerned with is what will happen first. Amaya gets out of serious debt or players give up on the site. The biggest problem with monetizing your player base is it drives all kinds of players away from re-depositing. This makes the cash grabbing go on for even longer until it becomes what is considered the norm. Maybe it will stop next year after the latest changes but I have no faith and have jumped ship.
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11-11-2015 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by coon74
The PCA puzzle has to do something with MTTs because it gives tickets to the PCA Main Event, which is obviously an MTT (which is even on the 'bucket lists' of some MTT lovers), and it requires playing in a PCA satellite, which can be an MTT or an SnG.
live mtt. we talking about online mtts, online promotion for online mtt grinders. and i was right.

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Luke
Lastly, I wanted to make a couple (minor) announcements:
  • We have a tournament promotion planned for November 16-29. It is a new promotion targeting micro/low/mid stakes.
  • There will be a new daily tournament series (tentatively) launching November 30th.
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11-11-2015 , 02:17 PM
Where have all the regular ante up tournaments gone ? I see the gntd in the micro/small buy in being chopped every few months. Which is a little strange because every time I have played them or observed them in the lobby the Gntds were covered. I think they were chopped twice this year. I believe the $55 buy in use to be $5K gntd. Then $3.5K >>$3K>> currently $2K with the same Buy In. ( Prize Pool numbers might not be exact but are close ) Same for the smaller $2 and $5 buy in games.

Be nice if pokerstars put some nlh regular ante-up games back in the lobby.
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11-13-2015 , 12:11 PM




Nobody is going to win this jackpot and even they know, nice gimmick
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11-13-2015 , 02:22 PM
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Nobody is going to win this jackpot and even they know, nice gimmick
all you have to do is win two tournaments with 5000 ppl with the same buyin in at the same time in the same day. good promotion.
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11-13-2015 , 02:27 PM
i think the main part of the promo is that we will be getting 2 of those tournaments each day for a week rather than the usual one.

its a bit meh but whatevs imo
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11-13-2015 , 02:38 PM
Bad copu of Full Tilt doube tourneys, what about some cash for making two final tables, or some for top 10 last longer or something
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11-13-2015 , 02:43 PM
a throwback to the old ftp daily doubles. wish they would have included the other pay tiers like double final table, highest combined finished, double cash so there is a more realistic chance of hitting
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11-13-2015 , 02:59 PM
yup agreed with itsonlychips. currently the promo part of the promo is unwinnable and stars risk about 10cents in EV when each comp runs. make it fun with people hitting little gimmicks all the time.
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11-14-2015 , 03:40 AM
Yeah 100k for 2 final tables the same day same hour would have been interesting
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11-14-2015 , 02:31 PM
Something like this would be so much more fun and attractive:

- Get 1x or 2x your combined BI If both ITM

- Get 5x combined BI if you finish both in top 100

- Get 10x combined BI if you get top 18 for both

- Get 50-100x combined BI if you reach final tables for both tourney
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11-14-2015 , 03:07 PM
anything would be better, as Asjbaaaf mention this promo is simply having 2 tnys in those slots instead of 1

the odds to win 2 tnys w a field of 6k+ (which the $1.10 & $11 should clear easily) is 36m+ to 1, it truly is lottery odds
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11-14-2015 , 03:09 PM
The main problem for me is that the promo covers only six MTTs a day (at three buy-in levels)

I'd prefer it to be more regular, e.g., if the $5 and $11 90-man turbo PSKOs were replaced by one united stake - $7 90-mans - and a progressive jackpot was attached to it, awarded for three wins in a row (tourneys being sorted by their starting times) and being 6-figure almost always, and a consolation prize worth 1/1000-th of the jackpot being awarded for three final table finishes in a row (that would require taking a $0.50-0.70 jackpot fee out of the buy-in).
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11-14-2015 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jk88
Something like this would be so much more fun and attractive:

- Get 1x or 2x your combined BI If both ITM

- Get 5x combined BI if you finish both in top 100

- Get 10x combined BI if you get top 18 for both

- Get 50-100x combined BI if you reach final tables for both tourney
I like this. Obviously exact numbers don't matter but a flatter payout that's more obtainable would be better.
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11-15-2015 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jk88
Something like this would be so much more fun and attractive:

- Get 1x or 2x your combined BI If both ITM

- Get 5x combined BI if you finish both in top 100

- Get 10x combined BI if you get top 18 for both

- Get 50-100x combined BI if you reach final tables for both tourney
Huge +1 to this like I would even play two $55 at the same time(my avg buy in $8-10) if they come up with promotion like that, but no we gotta win both same time same day lol wtf? You had promotions like "PokerStars makes Millionaires" , spin n go 10+ millionaires where people actually won 1 million, but now do you really think anybody is going to win that jackpot(without colluding) in a span of 14 days? And what if nobody hits the jackpot?
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11-15-2015 , 04:56 PM
Given the element of skill, there is a roughly 2% chance that over the 2 weeks some individual will win the million.
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11-15-2015 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by xXPocketDucksXx
Given the element of skill, there is a roughly 2% chance that over the 2 weeks some individual will win the million.
I don't know how you came with that 2% which seems huge % to me, but even if that is correct, an avg recreational player wouldn't know the odds/percentage. He/she would play those double daily jackpot tourneys once, twice or even thrice but he/she would stop playing for the 4th time or more knowing that its impossible to win both tourneys. If the promotion was something like mentioned above(itm both, ft both, top 18 both) he/she would play those tourneys more often and maybe they will play everyday even if the jackpot was not 1m.

Btw how many players have won both Sunday million/Sunday Warm up or Sunday Storm/Big 11 on same day in the past?
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11-15-2015 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by anuj22
I don't know how you came with that 2% which seems huge % to me, but even if that is correct, an avg recreational player wouldn't know the odds/percentage. He/she would play those double daily jackpot tourneys once, twice or even thrice but he/she would stop playing for the 4th time or more knowing that its impossible to win both tourneys. If the promotion was something like mentioned above(itm both, ft both, top 18 both) he/she would play those tourneys more often and maybe they will play everyday even if the jackpot was not 1m.

Btw how many players have won both Sunday million/Sunday Warm up or Sunday Storm/Big 11 on same day in the past?
idk but given there's this whole daily double promo there will be a lot more people entering both tournaments on the same day, perhaps up to 10000. So if everyone had an equal chance of winning each tournament, then there would be a 1 in 10000 chance that the million would be won for that particular daily double. given there's 42 pairs of daily doubles, the odds of the million being won over the 2 weeks would be 1-(9999/10000)^42=0.4%. However we should consider that an underestimate.

Given there's an element of skill involved (when someone wins a tournament they're more likely to be a skilled player and hence more likely to win the second tournament), the odds of someone winning both tournaments will significantly improve. Plus 10000 is likely to be an overestimate of the field size so with smaller fields the odds of someone winning increases further. Taking everything into account, I think a ballpark of 1-2% is a reasonable estimate for someone winning the million over the 2 week period.
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