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04-22-2016 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sr. Fold
Just tried the deposit code and worked fine for me!
yep it's working now
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04-24-2016 , 05:56 AM
Well I know I said I found the CardHunt promo increasingly dull, but this new knockout promotion...just wow! I'm really enjoying it so far. I love how not only do we get 5 free tickets, but also extra daily AND weekly freerolls we can win an entry to. Whereas in the cardhunt, it was just a single daily prize and nothing else.

I also find the structure and new layout of the knockout sngs/mtts much more thrilling and interesting than the dull grind at the cash game tables (although I understand and acknowledge the rake increase in these KO games). I think the bright orange explosions every time a player is knocked out truly does add extra energy and excitement to these games. Just goes to show what Pokerstars can come up with if they really put their minds to it!

Thumbs up for this one

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04-24-2016 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by xXPocketDucksXx
Well I know I said I found the CardHunt promo increasingly dull, but this new knockout promotion...just wow! I'm really enjoying it so far. I love how not only do we get 5 free tickets, but also extra daily AND weekly freerolls we can win an entry to. Whereas in the cardhunt, it was just a single daily prize and nothing else.

I also find the structure and new layout of the knockout sngs/mtts much more thrilling and interesting than the dull grind at the cash game tables (although I understand and acknowledge the rake increase in these KO games). I think the bright orange explosions every time a player is knocked out truly does add extra energy and excitement to these games. Just goes to show what Pokerstars can come up with if they really put their minds to it!

Thumbs up for this one
Really clutching at straws now.

Not really worth taking part, allin-shootouts worth less than $1. With the rake increase it's a bit of a stretch to call this a promotion. I mean, they're "promoting" their new rake trap but it's a negative for the players. By taking part you're building liquidity to force through their rake increase and giving them the thumbs up to do the same in the future.
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04-24-2016 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
They did the same with Spins - promote the hell out of them, funnel new players into them, get called out on rake, shrug with some variation of "these games have proven popular" as if it was organic growth.

It's a shame they never had the same motivation towards promoting/saving some classic games like fixed limit, Stud, O8 etc. They used to give a canned response of not promoting one game above another when asked why they don't help niche games more.
When PSO had the PSO-SOP (a mini-WSOP with buy-ins less than $1), really enjoyed 2-7 ... there was something fun about trying to make the worst possible hands, when usually the goal is to try and make the best

Would be lovely if they made this year's PSOSOP a promo with a bonus daily challenge reward - it's nice to be able to try different games when the entry fee's on the smaller side ... would be lovely to have more people join in on the fun!
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04-24-2016 , 06:24 PM
(unless they raise the rake first, and then it won't be fun anymore )
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04-24-2016 , 08:41 PM
Funny thing Pokerstars want more $$$ so decide to alienate half the field with one bad move

I don't want to be totally negative as the format of the new schedule is better but why is everything 6-max? When did PLO become 6-max only or MTTs all become 6-max?

You want everybody to shove and rebuy all the time? The fish will play less games because they are more expensive and soon the games dry up. Make half of the new MTTs back to 9-player tables
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04-24-2016 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Imp
Really clutching at straws now.

Not really worth taking part, allin-shootouts worth less than $1. With the rake increase it's a bit of a stretch to call this a promotion. I mean, they're "promoting" their new rake trap but it's a negative for the players. By taking part you're building liquidity to force through their rake increase and giving them the thumbs up to do the same in the future.
Tbh being now a rec player, I really don't care about the rake anymore. All I care about is having innovative game formats and innovative promotions - and that's what Pokerstars has delivered here. When people buy lottery tickets and scratchcards, nobody complains "Hey the rake is ridiculous - 40%. It makes this lotto unbeatable, I'm never buying again". But no, even with up to 50% rake, the lotto remains one of the most popular gambling games around - because people enjoy it!

The reality is "regs"/"grinders" only make up the minority of the overall player base. The majority favour games that are enjoyable over games that have low rake. I find this promo enjoyable, and I also find the KO games enjoyable and tbh I'd never even started playing them until now. The new KO layout is fun, innovative and thrilling and will inspire many new players to become motivated into poker. If by playing I'm reinforcing the rake increase by "building liquidity", then that's good for their business (so well done to them), but it's also good for me because I'm having a good time. That's what it's all about - it's about making poker fun and relevant for players in society today.
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04-24-2016 , 09:24 PM
A few mere weeks ago all those superlatives would have been highly irritating. But you overplayed your hand, now all you're getting is a mild eye-roll. Need to step up your game!
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04-24-2016 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Svoloch'Stars
Funny thing Pokerstars want more $$$ so decide to alienate half the field with one bad move

I don't want to be totally negative as the format of the new schedule is better but why is everything 6-max? When did PLO become 6-max only or MTTs all become 6-max?

You want everybody to shove and rebuy all the time? The fish will play less games because they are more expensive and soon the games dry up. Make half of the new MTTs back to 9-player tables
Am just getting a look at the evening new schedule for my time zone - really shocked that they didn't at least leave in one regular speed full-ring NL game in the $1-$2 range - because before that was all they had, and there wasn't anything else. Now it's all 'everything else', but and there's not one 'regular' game ...

Wonder if maybe some people might start playing more on Party instead?

The Big and the Bounty Builder in my time zone were both 9-12hr tourneys, so I never played them. Am looking forward to giving the tourneys with the 8min blinds a try, but maybe they might play a bit too fast? Will have to see ...
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04-24-2016 , 10:08 PM
If pokerstars said they were going to triple the current rake tomorrow.....

No doubt that the regs/grinders would leave, but would the company still be just as profitable with the recreational players still playing? I used to think that when some casinos changed blackjack payouts from 3/2 to 6/5 that no one would play them, I was wrong.
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04-25-2016 , 10:10 AM
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When PSO had the PSO-SOP (a mini-WSOP with buy-ins less than $1), really enjoyed 2-7 ... there was something fun about trying to make the worst possible hands, when usually the goal is to try and make the best

Would be lovely if they made this year's PSOSOP a promo with a bonus daily challenge reward - it's nice to be able to try different games when the entry fee's on the smaller side ... would be lovely to have more people join in on the fun!
Glad you liked 2-7 games. You should play more often
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04-25-2016 , 11:16 AM
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If pokerstars said they were going to triple the current rake tomorrow.....

No doubt that the regs/grinders would leave, but would the company still be just as profitable with the recreational players still playing? I used to think that when some casinos changed blackjack payouts from 3/2 to 6/5 that no one would play them, I was wrong.
In case all REGs would leave (i know, very hypothetical ), there would be a massive lack of liquidity. As a result of that RECs will sooner or later leave the site too. Despite the general trend implicating that REGs are worthless, to some extent they are needed to keep games going. Currently some sites are only "adjusting" as they underestimated the tolerance of REGs in regards to getting ass-raped.
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04-25-2016 , 02:20 PM
Who is the knuckleheads in charge of tournaments? You removed ALL the heads up tournaments now. Jesus, whats happened to this site, it's being run by monkeys
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04-25-2016 , 02:59 PM
the new schedule disgusts me as a micro grinder
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04-25-2016 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kanadai Magyar
Who is the knuckleheads in charge of tournaments? You removed ALL the heads up tournaments now. Jesus, whats happened to this site, it's being run by monkeys
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the new schedule disgusts me as a micro grinder
Please post any suggestion related to tournament schedule in MTT discussion thread.

Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Tournament Poker > MTT Community > 2016 PokerStars MTT Discussion Thread

Thread link: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...-25-a-1580244/

I had also suggested them to add few heads up tourneys in the new schedule. There were 18 daily hu tourneys in the old schdule but none now other than couple of tourneys on Saturdays which is sad.

Talking about the new schedule we have a new challenge:

New Tournament Schedule Quest

Do check it out
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04-25-2016 , 04:54 PM
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Glad you liked 2-7 games. You should play more often
hehe ... was using quite a few filters to keep things nice and simple - like wasn't doing so great playing just regular NL tournaments, so didn't want to complicate things and make things even worse?

Just turned off my filters to check out the new schedule, and there seem to be a ton of different games in my time zone now - not sure if there were so many $1 tourneys for all the different variants before? And they have nice small fields ... maybe it might be nice to give some of these games a try every once in a while?


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Talking about the new schedule we have a new challenge:

New Tournament Schedule Quest

Do check it out

Pretty exciting that there's 3 challenges going on at the same time - thought with the KO challenge for SNGs happening, that might mean the end of the cash promos at the end of the month ... but that'd be lovely if there's a new one at the start of May. Nice to have lots of options
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04-26-2016 , 08:29 PM
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Talking about the new schedule we have a new challenge:

New Tournament Schedule Quest

Anybody giving the Tournament Schedule Quest a try?

Was kind of on the fence, thinking something like, 'oh what's the point, am not going to win anything sigh!' But there don't seem to be very many people signed up for the freeroll just yet?
Wonder how many people might wind up playing the freeroll - maybe 25k? Maybe less? ... Maybe more?


Guess this promo's a chance to give some new tourneys and structures a try, that might wind up trying out anyways - so maybe this is a chance to maybe win a bonus?

Was looking at the 10 things - guess as a 1-tabler, it might be easier to stick to the ones where we just have to play (#1-5)? Lots of $0.55 and $1 tourneys in the European time zones now, which are nice for playing on the weekend for everybody in the Americas ...

Although the Omamania tourneys look expensive - do they only start at the $4.40 level? Maybe #10 might not be so bad with a mixed game tourney ... if they only have about 100 participants to begin with? lol ... eg

Will maybe wait to see what things look like on the weekend - guess if the freeroll numbers really start to puff up, may just wait for another promo or something? Will see ...

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04-26-2016 , 10:59 PM
Pokerstars please put HU MTT tourneys back into daily schedule
all HU MTT have been removed with the recent tournament schedule change except 2 on saturdays...

and people if you liked playing HU MTT write to stars you want them back please...
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04-27-2016 , 04:19 AM
Serious question to any Pokerstars' reps reading this thread. You don't care what poker players think or say, why keep these threads open and pretend?
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04-27-2016 , 04:44 PM
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Just turned off my filters to check out the new schedule, and there seem to be a ton of different games in my time zone now - not sure if there were so many $1 tourneys for all the different variants before? And they have nice small fields ... maybe it might be nice to give some of these games a try every once in a while?
Yup they got added recently, there were no $1 tourneys for all these variants before. Infact many of them are overlaying. They screwed up the non-nlhe schedule. I don't mind these $1, $2 buy ins but its not fair to have them replaced with the ones that were doing well and were growing. They could have kept those. All the Daily 27s and Weekly 82s got removed. Only Badugi, Single Draw and Stud were doing below average because they weren't given proper time slot, they started too early.

Only good thing about the new mixed/draw games schedule is the $11 PSKOs tourneys

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Anybody giving the Tournament Schedule Quest a try?

Wonder how many people might wind up playing the freeroll - maybe 25k? Maybe less? ... Maybe more?
I'm also expecting 25k-30k entries. I'm glad they are not giving us all-in shootout freeroll this time
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04-27-2016 , 07:58 PM
Guess a 25k freeroll with a $50k prize pool's a pretty nice bonus - there aren't too many freerolls worth $2 ... and it's nice that the challenge can be completed by playing tourneys like these ...
  • The Big/Hot/Bounty $0.55
  • The Jumbo Shrimp $1
  • Another variant with less than 100 entries and overlay $1


Always helpful to have some overlay - maybe now's an especially nice time to give those other variants a try

Have been lurking in the MTT Discussion thread, and it sounds like quite a few people are unhappy with the changes to the limit/draw games - hopefully they'll reconsider the changes if so many people are unhappy?

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04-27-2016 , 09:41 PM
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...MTT thread [...] people unhappy with the changes to the limit/draw games [...] [PokerStars will ] reconsider the changes if so many people are unhappy?
I doubt it! I think they'll revert some of the major ill-considered changes to the structures, but I suspect the more exotic games will be trimmed even more.

I suppose PokerStars' strategy is to remove any game variants that exhibit above average to high cash withdrawals compared with the total rake. By reducing as much reg advantage as possible PokerStars reduces the cash withdrawals from the system. I think this is unfortunately a sensible strategy which works because PS is effectively a monopoly who don't fear their core recreational net depositors moving their weekly/monthly redeposits to a competitor site.

I have no doubt that a competitor will pop up - perhaps so quickly that PokerStars are wrong-footed. This might happen starting somewhere like India where poker is taking off, there's a huge population [4x the USA & more like 8x-10x if you're looking at the youth demographic] & signs of economic growth. Or how about China where the figures are maybe slightly better than India? PokerStars are investing in South America [Brazil 5th largest world population] with the football-heavy malarkey, but maybe they need to look over their shoulder at the monster 21st century economies that will come out of the East?

When that happens PS will have to be more responsive to 'consumers' - perhaps offering some products [exotic poker, bigger guarantees etc] as loss leaders as always happens in a truly competitive marketplace.
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04-27-2016 , 09:51 PM
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I also want to add this: The 21st century eGaming/poker/sports betting wars will be about winning 'consumers' on the smartphone platform. Outside of Europe & the North American continent the internet is all about Smartphones - that's how most of India & Africa conducts their personal banking etc. When you look at refugees trying to enter Europe you can see their prized possession is the Smartphone which is the only internet that exists for most of the world. PokerStars knows very well that a smartphone app could crash their business model very quickly...
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04-27-2016 , 10:55 PM
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I play on pokerstars.es. I am Latvian but because most of the year I live in Spain, I can only play on pokerstars.es.

They run a promotion during their SCOOP where there is a leaderboard for the low and for the high events. Like a week before this the events ended, I noticed this leaderboard and started to grind every event. Its really hard to play everyday and stuff, especially if you loose money everyday playing those MTT's.

Well but thats fine, thats poker, you win some and you lose some. But in the end i could at least get half of the money back which I lost chasing this stupid leaderboard in which I finished top 10. The events ended on 11th of april. But on their web-page they state - all prizes will be paid out on 15th of April. Im like ok cool. The 15th of april comes and nothing. No emails or no money. On 16th I send an email asking whats up, for which I get Diego from pokerstars to tell me that they will answer in 24-48 hours time. The next day I send an other email asking whats up with that promotion. This time they say the same thing and I dont get my answer. Then on 18th I sent another email. No answer. Today is 19th and those people just dont answer to me.

I dont know if to play there anymore. I dont play too much, but in Spain I cant play any other sites, because there isnt anything to play on. I dont know what else to do now.

Now I only recieve spam emails about their new promotions and how I should play some spin and goes and what not. **** that. If a multi billion dollar company cant answer to emails for 5 days. I guess im off to the casino to play 20% raked games. At least they answer if asked any questions.
Switch to a different site. Let's show these clowns
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04-27-2016 , 11:03 PM
Just a year ago there was quite a bit of action in the high stakes limit games. Now there is none, zero. Even midstakes I have often seen 0 games running. Action is way down at high stakes PLO too. Is this what Pokerstars was aiming for. So sad to see them destroy everything.
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