You could be right but "less rewarding" can been interpreted in different ways. I was only 5/10 steps for achieving goldstar a few days ago, but I made an effort and was able to achieve the other 5 steps in the last 3 days of the month. And sure, it's going to be much harder for me to play through the VIP steps challenges in the first half of this month so it's "less rewarding" in that sense, but it's also "more rewarding" in the sense that it challenges me to significantly increase my volume and give me a goal to work towards, and so when I do eventually complete the challenges, the prizes for goldstar will be almost double the value of the silverstar ones in terms of EV.

Here's a thought, stop responding to people who are expressing their frustrations, no one wants to hear your inane babbling about how great Amaya is.

Addressing someone's legit concerns with some kind of weird motivational message is bizarre, even by your posting standards.

did the 3 steps today and got 10k stars coins ship it. nice little 100 dollar value. Im platinum btw

But the volume needed is 5 times bigger, ergo the overall rakeback % even incl. normal step rewards is not much (if any) bigger, and you could have spent that time filled with tired grinding in a more useful way (not on hanging out on forums like the pathetic me, haha).

Ya, guess bigger prizes, but more volume ... not sure if the different VIP levels are getting the same % back? Maybe bigger $ amount, but smaller % at higher levels? Or is it the opposite?


Was trying to figure out how much the bonus might be for 3 steps of silver - 300vpps for me last month was $45 of rake ..

62% chance - $1 + 3x$2.75 = $9.25? (is that right? 20% rakeback)
35% chance - $10 + 3x$2.75 = $18.25? (40% rakeback)
(3% ~ 0% chance of making >$18.25)

Tried to do the same for 3 steps of Chromestar - guess 3 steps would be 20vpps, but guess the rakeback (lower) and bonus would be:

47% chance - $0.50 + 3x$0.45 = $1.85?
40% chance - $1 + 3x$0.45 = $2.35?
12% chance - $10 + 3x$0.45 = $11.35?

(1% ~ 0% chance of making >$11.35)

The 2nd prize for Silver is really nice, and it looks like the 3rd prize for Chrome is the nice one - the little ones aren't so great, but guess something is better than nothing ... hope the promos in the middle of the month aren't shootouts ...

Are you replenishing my 150-ish roll after the inevitable downswong hits at NL10?



...thank you quarantine, for actually "getting it".


Ducks -- imagine you grind 400NL based on proper BRM, and since the new VIP club u clear a step every 4-6 hours or so.

For a promo you take a risk by bumping up to 1000NL, you don't get doom switched nor boomswitched and clear a step every hour or so. You go up a VIP level as you run bad big time.


New month begins, you drop back to 400NL instead of risking busting.

Guess how long it now takes to clear even just ONE step? (and before that, ZERO Starcoins are awarded! Talk about DE-motivation...


Many of us only play an hour or two every few days btw. This is not my FT job.

If I complete 3 VIP-Steps during this promo I may win 5 Starscoin?

True it may not have been completely "life +EV", but I felt like a challenge so I went for it. When I see a fruit dangling off a branch on a tree, I rarely leave it hanging.

Your point doesn't really make sense cos the challenges for the supernova status can be completed comfortably at 100nl (or even 50nl if you play full time), you don't need to be at 400nl or 1000nl to get that.

All I was trying to do was help motivate you and inspire you to stretch your potential, as I think that's an important goal for anyone who takes poker seriously and wants to make the most out of it. There are a lot of people out there who keep coming up with reasons or excuses to justify their can't-be-bothered attitude with phrases like "It's too hard" or "I don't have enough time" or "My bankroll's too small" etc etc. Well guess what happens to these people? Some of them completely fail, never get anywhere and quit. Others of them eventually get to a point where they can earn the minimum wage and they're happy to grind that out but nothing substantial. But what's true for the majority of them is that they never are able to realise their full potential because lack of motivation is holding them back.

It all comes down to this. Poker, from a business perspective, is not about simply "chancing your arm". Those who climb to the top and achieve the biggest success are the ones who really put their neck on their line, take some risks and go for glory!

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just for proof

^ Congrats!

Guess this switch to the new coin system's kind of confusing, so with my last post, was still trying to sort things out and stuff So totally get where you're coming from with the thing about making Silver, and then now seeing how staying Chrome might have been cool too ...

All these little bonuses can really add up over the course of a year - was surprised to find at the end of 2015 that I'd wound up making over $40 from freerolls. There was one big score, but the rest were just little cashes, here and there - which was really nice to have, to offset all my Sunday Storm entries Looking at things at the end of the year, do wish I'd played lower buy-ins instead of the higher ones ... have kept to the smaller ones this year ...

Guess being able to get a cash bonus would be the nicest - but if you like tourneys, guess the Silverstar one at the end of the month last month wound up being worth about ... $2? While the Chromestar one was maybe only be worth about $0.67 - so guess achieving a higher VPP level does count for a little something extra GL with the tourney if you have time to play it!!

A couple of hours ago me and my friend did a deal with the vip steps challenges (as we'd both agreed we'd complete 10 vip steps during the challenge period to get both of the challenge rewards). But he's a silverstar and i'm a goldstar so my challenges have better EV of reward than his. So we did a swap, I'm taking 50% of his prizes and he's taking 29% of mine. It's a neutral EV swap, but it's good in that it reduces the variance and it means if one of us gets unlucky and doesn't win much then they have the other to fall back on. It basically means we each get 4 chances to bink a share of a jackpot instead of 2.

These steps is bullbadword. raked 150 USD to get wait for it drum rolls..................100 star coins. So it was rake 150 USD to get 1USD. Great promotion! Yeah I know someone won 10k starcoins which is nice, but come on give minimum at least 1000 star coins as minimum.

Pokerstars is turning into casino.

I don't need your help. Based on others' responses ITT sounds like not many appreciate what you are trying to offer in general, are you the Tony Robbins of 2+2??

But imo you need help -- in reading comprehension.

I am at Silverstar now and got there by playing a level or two higher than my "normal". Due to proper BRM I dropped back down but my Steps earning rate is gonna be sloooooow now because of being Silver not Chrome and thus I regret "reaching my goal" because the new 3-steps promo is virtually unreachable for me now.

I am a couple hours per week semi-rec not a FT grinder. I am not Supernova. But I was giving an example/analogy that made a clear point to anyone actually reading my words instead of reading into it their own filters and bias -- I admit it may have been flawed in its specific numbers (because I AM NOT SUPERNOVA and never have been) so how about you either take more time reading before responding or else go cheerlead in other threads mkay apparent-troll?

It sucks to be a Goldstar this year (and even more so to be a Platinumstar or a Supernova).

Anyone know the best way to suggest tournament ideas (about structures) to pokerstars?

There are satellites to the APPT tour in Melbourne, and they are all 5 minute levels.

Would love to ask whoever sets out the structures if they could do some nightly satetllites/steps with decent structures/lower buy ins.

Well, near 15.000 hands on NL5 to achieve the first coins challenge. Result?

100 miserable coins!

Luckily I won at the tables, I'm not sure if I should grind the next 7 levels, my math tells me that I will need around 35.000 more hands...

Well my suggestion would definitely be to go for it. People grow up and look back on all the things they could have done with their life; the missed opportunities. This is one of those opportunities, and all you need is some motivation and drive. You managed to complete 15k hands in 4 days, so if you simply carry on putting in this volume consistently each day for the next 10 days you should complete the challenge. That can't be too hard right? 3.5k hands a day? Piece of cake.

I presume you're doing the silverstar challenges right? In which case, you have a 1 in 400 chance of being $1k richer, a 1 in 20 chance of being $100 (value of starscoin) richer, and a 1 in 10 chance of being $50 richer. These odds are not that unlikely; well within the realms of possibility. And all these prizes (not even including the jackpot $20000 value of starscoin) will be a significant boost to your bankroll if you're playing 5nl. Not to mention all the profit you're likely to make (assuming you're a winning 5nl player) just simply by playing at the tables.

Don't be disheartened by the fact that you only got $1 value this time. Sure, that is the lowest prize and the most likely one, but the fact that there are good odds of winning a big prize of $50+ (1 in 6 times in your case), more than makes up for this imo. Next time you might just get lucky

Seriously STFU already. If you gave a chit about the player who posted a legitimate grievance you'd tell him to play on Unibet where the rake for his stake is 1%.

Furthermore for his volume he'd be clearing a wecome bonus of 200euro in the first month as well as receiving over 100euro in extras for completing monthly challenges and rakeback.

How to promote PokerStars? My idea/suggestion/opinion is for David Baazov to YES PLEASE PROCEED WITH BUYING OUT THE COMPANY AND MAKING IT PRIVATE AGAIN!

via http://www.pokerlistings.com/daily-3...ittomama-41547

"GPI CEO Alex Dreyfus posted on Linkedin he thinks it’s good for poker players as PokerStars would be less beholden to shareholders and increasing profits."
^ Understatement of the decade! That is the problem, in a nutshell, since the Amaya purchase, the reason for so many pretty irrational decisions, business-running-wise.

Okay thank you Ducks!

You have finally confirmed that you are not just a strange troll, but that you are some kind of cult member of Amayastars if not an actual paid affiliate cheerleader or something.


Isn't good poker about making +EV decisions, taking actions / giving action when you have an edge? But what you are saying, and what Amaya has been pushing, is an attitude of "sure it's extremely unlikely that you will be the super-rarely-lucky recipient of a virtual jackpot... but eventually somebody is gonna win it, why not take a shot at it being you?"

SIGH.


If not for the occasional entertainment value of your posts I would actually take the time right now to figure out how to use the apparent Ignore List feature of the forum.

I suggest decreasing rake in $30+ spin and gos, and/or increasing the rakeback, to make games run more often being more profitable for all parties (players and PS).

Dear Amaya Gambling,

I do understand that, after Your takeover of Pokerstars, promotions aro no longer for players but for a few lucky ones. I get it. Supposed to attract rec players (as i heard about million times).

Well, after i won my mighty 50 Starscoins or,as everybody knows, 5 cents in real money, i get that lovely window:



Im sure Pokerstars promotion team had a blast with that line. Not so funny for me. What will i do, spend all these 5 cents on booze and hookers? Or will i buy some green energy shares?

It sure feels like a new owners don't give a crap about old customer base.

What is Unibet's software like, and how is the volume at the $5 and $10 NL games? I've been considering trying it out for a while, just haven't really been able to convince myself to switch.

After 10 years on Stars I too had difficulty making the switch... but I'm glad I did. Volume wise for these stakes isn't an issue as these stakes run 24 hours a day for up to the max of 8 tables that you're able to play. 10NL might have a 3 hour window where you'd have to cut back.

Rake at 4nl is 1%
Rake at 10nl is 3%

Unibet is unique that the tables are anonymous so you can pick 5 different screen names a day (basically no one will know it's you) and the site is HUD/Script free. The graphics for the avatars are really awesome.

As I mentioned in my earlier post Unibet gives a lot of value in the monthly promos and their support on 2+2 is unmatched as Andrew answers all questions... the good and bad. Best of luck if you take the plunge.