Lol lost $25 playing 5nl trying to hit a straight flush

That's why you do it at 2nl instead! Also 2nl is even softer than 5nl, I played 4.5k hands and was up 6BI in EV playing a 24/9 style lol

Cant enter 2nl, tried many times.

try try try and ull succeed its annoying but u can join nl2 zoom tables. gg to me boys 4788 hands in , 1k !!!!! 56789 89 officially new favorite hand !xD:

Congrats and welcome to 2+2!

It's well-known that a pat straightflush or a pat royal hits in 5-card draw once in ~65K hands.

I thought that both hole cards had to be used (like at 888's jackpot tables), so I thought there were 10 eligible 5-card hands that can be made from a 7-card Hold'em hand (two hole + the board), so the probability of getting a hand qualifying for the promo would be ~6.5K, in fact, a little bit less because there are rare cases when there are 6-7 consecutive cards of the same suit in a 7-card hand that count as one SF instead of 2-3.

But apparently, straight flushes made with one hole and four community cards also qualify, so there are 20 eligible 5-card hands in a 7-card one and the probability is twice higher - 1 in 3.3K

Edit: OK, you've persuaded me to grind the challenge out because I'm on such big tilt now that I can't play anything else profitably

Sick, I'm so jelly!

Well i know from memory there's a 1 in 3600 you can make a straight flush by the river in texas holdem, but for it to take an average of 3600 hands would assume you'd play every single hand you're dealt AND opt to see all 5 community cards each time. Neither of these are realistic from a practical point of view, and for reference i'd played 180k hands of cash and only made 3 straight flushes before the challenge (4 now). But if you follow the strategy of limping in with suited connected cards and passively continuing with any backdoor s.f. draw you can probably manage the challenge in around 7k hands as you had originally estimated (unless you want to play every single hand in which case it's 1 in 3.6k)

I'll surely follow an optimally passive strategy. Even if I lose at -15 bb/100, it will only be -$10 on average.

I've just looked up the official rules of poker at Stars' site and it turns out that a royal flush is regarded as a straight flush, which is quite unconventional.

That's why you said the chance is 1 in 3600 - that figure excludes royal flushes.

got it done for the min prize of $20 but had lots of fun with this promotion. Keep promotions like this one coming!

Also really like how you guys clearly show the odds of winning certain prizes in the challenge window.

Yea that could be right, I always just assumed straight flush included royal flush but now I stand corrected. Better hurry up if you want this promo, might have to up your table count to 8 zoom tables if you haven't already! Just keep believing in yourself and don't give up!

Yea they're great, hopefully more like this will come in the future! I'm anticipating an extra special calendar challenge/treat on Christmas Day so don't let me down stars!

Played 4 tables of 5NL ZOOM. Took 2.5 hours and 2500 hands, only won the minimum of $20, but after having just $38 cash in my account two days ago, I'm happy with it.

The play seemed way crazier than usual. Not just the extra VPIP by most people, but the massive bets and all-ins with incredibly weak hands seemed far more common. It was a good night to run good, winning 320BB (I only sat with 50, couldn't afford much more) on top of the bonus.

Why wouldn't a royal flush count as a straight flush? By definition of a straight flush, a royal is just a straight flush with a fancy name.

The thing is that, in video poker and casino Hold'em, a royal flush pays bigger than (any other) straight flush, so it's usually deemed a separate hand in casinos, and it was also listed as a separate hand at the (now closed) site where I played the first real money poker hand.

I wasn't able to maintain 8 tables of Zoom, kept 6 open, but I started running into buy-in obligations quite soon, though they were usually $1.02-1.08 and only one $1.75.

Sometimes my stack was down to a comfortable depth of 20 bb where I could make Sklansky-Chubukov openshoves with the strongest offsuit hands.

Anyway, I wasn't going to grind for more than 3 hours anyway; it was barely worth my time, I was playing rather in the recreational mood, to try out silly things and see what happens.

Apparently, NL2 isn't aggressive enough for having a balanced limping range (with AQ+, TT+ mixed in) to be profitable. If it were non-Zoom NL100 (like the mentioned jackpot tables), I'd have to defend my straightflush chasing range by adding strong offsuit (limp/reraise) hands to it, but the NL2 Zoom population likely weren't writing notes on me.

I ended up playing over 3K hands in less than 3 hours, losing at 12 EV bb/100 (-$11 overall / -$7 EV), of course not getting the prize, though I had quite a few one-outers on the flop/turn and once a two-outer on the turn, but I kept getting 'simple' straights and flushes and tilting over that like I'd never would in a normal ring game

Surprisingly, all my EV loss was in the ~1500 full ring Zoom hands; in 6-max, I was even slightly +EV.

I think I would have had to play 5K-6K hands on average to get the prize because I had to fold non-premium offsuit hands and so would have folded a lot of would-be one-hole-plus-four-board-card straight flushes.

Lol you actually thought of balancing your limping range? Seems like you're taking 2nl a bit too seriously

I thought that NL50-100 regs would be a substantial part of the field on the promo day

I did see a few familiar Supernovas grinding NL2.

i am so happy , you hoooo ! NOT!!!!!

this are the odds to build a straight flush : 36 in 2,598,960 = 1/72,193.33 , and this is what i get it?

Well even if there are good supernova players, they're only playing for the same reason as you to try and make a straight flush. It seems unlikely they'll be scrutinising your limping strategy in too much detail, even if they managed to get a big enough sample on you to make adjustments (unlikely given how packed the zoom pool was)


Are you saying those are your personal results? Cos the actual theoretical odds of making a straight flush (or better) are 1 in 3.3k. 1 in 72k is more realistic odds for someone who folds most of the deck preflop. Can't blame stars if you're too nitty

I don't think it's a bad promo at all, and yea i only got $20 too but i'm not complaining. There was like roughly a 1 in 30 chance of winning $500 or more, and I expect the number of people winning a prize to be in the low thousands. It also really encouraged recreational players and so these sorts of promos are great for the games and inducing more action.

http://www.cwu.edu/~glasbys/POKER.HTM

i dont know if its the same odds as winning two 180 players but i didnt love the prizes odds for this one... when i saw 80% to win 20$ i was like meh... so i quit the challenge after 3500 hands.

for encouraging the draws play... well, tables were ok i guess but still the same amount of regs per table (at nl2: 4 regs per table) so overall i dont think it make a so big change.

thing is, the only way to profit from these promos is playing nl2 or under because the value of promos worth 5$ or less. nothing encouraging me to play higher. theres no kind of promo that you need to play 100$+ to get an easy bonus worth at least 25$.

nothing encouraging people to be more than a chromestar. i dont understand that. chromestar are bad customers. you pay ads and promos, support team for them. they only rake 4,30$ per month but cashout 700$ a years in promos. like myself and probably a ton of other micro regs. i made 5000 vpps this year so 900$ rake but someway i won a bit more or less in promos and rakeback. so they didnt even make a profit on me and i wasted them a ton of cash/time in email questions. chromestar like my self are not EV+. help me to be more than that Stars.

these are not texas holdem odds, these are odds for 5 card draw

i won't say it was easy, but definitely achievable within 3-4 hours if you apply the right strategy and play enough tables

i personnally complain about the prize odds. winning the 5K is maybe the same odds as winning that 50K freeroll shootout.

1:30 for 500$+ is not that of a great deal.

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Celeste Oroná(Team Online Pro) her reaction after winning $5k in yesterday's challenge

biggest bull**** : a pro online on twict receives a straight flush and ***** surprise : 5k won .

this is the biigest **** i ever seen in my life

Are you implying that she won $5K reward because she is Team Online Pro and because she was twitching?

of course

Did anybody check out their new promotion "PokerStars Giveaway Daily Challenge"? It has already started Seems like its a permanent thing, $60,000 in giveaways every month

https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/pro...tars-giveaway/

So are they replacing $100K(monthly) Privilege Freerolls with $60K PokerStars Monthly Giveaways?