Wow, i never knew you could play unlimited tournaments i thought all of it was capped at 24 tables like cash. How many do you reckon is possible for a "normal" player like you or me to play simultaneously? (For reference I can play 4 zoom cash tables at once, and up to 20 ring game tables) And how many would that translate to you playing per hour, at an estimate based on how long they run for?

Normally, the hourly profit of an MTSnG player is not big, $25-30 at most maybe, playing 40-50 games an hour. That's partly because sessions take too long to start (reach a big table count) and especially to finish (often, they have to play only a few tables at the end where they're running deep).

I don't know myself how many tables I can play stacked. I can barely handle 12 tiled, but that's because I think deep on decisions, which is not necessary in this promo.

I'll be aiming for playing at 20 hyper $1 tables with a low timeout frequency.

Search for 'Collin Moshman's guide to mass multi-tabling'

Here are his '4 commandments':

ok cool, so to clarify if i played 25 turbos simultaneously i could expect to get roughly 40 in per hour? how will this be different in hypers? and do you reckon i'd be better off going for the hypers or turbos to maximise my overall EV? (i understand the hypers are faster, but also might be harder to mass grind?)

This can be calculated by the analysis of the games running in the lobby (for how long each of them has been running and how many players are left).

It indeed looks like it takes 40 minutes on average for a decent player to finish a their participation in a 180-man turbo (hence 25-tabling will yield 40 games an hour), while it's merely 15 minutes in a hyper because stacks are thrice shorter.

Edit: actually, upon observing a couple of tables, it has occurred to me that, in hyper 180s, the time to act is absolutely the same - 12 seconds with a 15-second time bank

I'll probably try both, but it seems that hypers are more playable because I can't make as big mistakes there as I would with a 75 bb stack.

I'm not what the traffic will be... assuming that it will at least double up at the $0.50-1 levels as opposed to a normal day, it will be possible to get enough tables from ~9 AM to ~5 PM ET... but if I start at an offpeak hours, I'll probably have to mix turbos and hypers to get enough games in. Mixing at the start makes sense because the turbos alone won't be filling up that fast anyway, and by the time I get enough games running, I'll be bust from a few hypers already.

Yea that makes sense, i'll definitely be mixing them up then. Hopefully i don't go bust from the variance

EV = $492.5

The traffic in the 0.50s/1s is huge already, and it's not even 6 AM ET yet

I'd definitely like to see at least 100 concurrent $1 hypers running in 3 hours, though.

GL!

Anybody won 2 180s yet? I saw a guy finish 1st and 2nd in $1 hyper

i've had a 2nd and a 3rd but still no win

At the end of the day, the main question will be 'who has won $5K from the scratch card'? And there will surely be such a 2+2'er.

Looks like bigbadbluff4 won 2 180s. Wonder how much he won

When I "opened" that day's "gift" I immediately thought: Most unreasonable one-day promotion *ever*.


You mighta convinced a bunch of MTSNG regs to increase their volume (probably at the lowest stakes!) but you're definitely NOT gonna get the occasional dabbler suddenly firing up a ton of them and taking a shot. For starters, even a complete idiot would expect the field to be mostly solid winning regs -- plus the amount to time required to get to enough FTs with a decent stack that you even have a chance at taking it down? TWICE? In one 24 hour period?



...so how many people actually won this promo? Is Stars gonna release that info somewhere?

beat: didn't get more than one 2nd after 300 games
brag: then binked 2 in a row
variance: 50$ prize

fun promo tho Amaya, wp

Just took down 2 Hypers in 115 played games. All I can say is lol donkaments...
If it wasn't for the promo the rake would probably be unbeatable.
Also just $50 award but I know of two people who each got $100.
Wonder if a 5k prize hits before the promo is over...

Yes very much possible. At least they are not asking you to win with same buy in same time and with 5-6k+ players like during their double daily jackpot promotion couple of weeks ago. Many liked today's promotion.

I hope they release the info.

Congrats!

Holy cow, I've never had so much junk food at once on my laptop table. I've probably spent more time for the prep that I shall for the actual play, but it might last anywhere between 1 and 10 hours, so I'd better be forearmed. I'll have to put in strong effort not to eat it all within the first two breaks GL to us!

GL players! and ofc hf playing more tables then ur usual.
So the promo time is to 7am ET, right and the time to finish ur tournys is that hour, and that time is 9:45 from now?

Its very good to see sooo much tables at 180bots MTTSNG

I am prity sure that this promo ends at 7am ET. I am just a little confused of that notice where is written "Expires Dec 18 12:59 "(in some hours that is bigger in lenght then 7am ET, simply what time remain to 24h from when u clicked start button).

I give up this is too hard. Still not won a game over 200+ attempts

I won once after 1.5 h / ~80 games, now 1.5 h more have passed and still no 2nd win

I'm still able to get 15-20 hyper tbls going tho

Just $100

I played in two HUs of $1 180s at once & shipped both (so 3 in total); micro 180-man regs are not better HU than me with my decent Spin experience

The whole thing took 4 hours of 10-25-tabling hypers plus an hour of software tuning beforehand. (The table count was falling just before breaks when I would stop registering, and when I was hitting final tables and dragging them out of the stack).

The main problem with stacking so many tables was that I didn't have a big HUD for the stack size in bb's (had only added it into PT4's default HUD in small font) and was missing short stack (3-5 bb) shoving/calling spots grossly. Also, $8+ regs were making 'non-all-in all-ins' relentlessly (like raising to 2.2 bb with 3 bb left in the stack, so that opponents didn't notice how short the raiser was).

I met a few familiar people along the way, like nkeyno, playersvk, Commmon13 (a Russian SnG coach), I can't remember all of them.

I'm down to 2 tables now, 11/11 and 2/12 going into the break. Not surprisingly, due to the hot run, I'm up in terms of pure winnings too, besides the $100 bonus.

Nice, good job man! I thought I'd have the patience to complete this challenge but after 200+ games and not winning a single one I realise I'm pretty clueless at how to play these games, also I find it difficult to mass multi-table them given how inexperienced I am at the format.

The funny thing is that, after finishing 11/11 in one of the left tourneys (I had a bit more than 1 bb there in the break), I went on to win the very last one, for a total of 4 first places

And I ended up $83 (+ the $100 bonus) as a result of playing 207 $1 hypers and 9 $0.50 turbos, within 4 hours 35 minutes (excluding the 26 minutes spent on the first, software test hyper).

Lol nice, wish you could have transferred 2 of your wins to me

Yeah, i liked the promo of today. At least the minimum prize for today's challenge was decent and sure, the challenge wasn't that easy but certainly not impossible. Best challenge so far imo, wish I had seen it earlier.

damnn... finally a good promo but i cant play today. i played about 38 games 0,50$ stake at midnight and lost 12$ in the process. 180 players sucks, it seems unbeatable. i ran bad but -12$ in 38 games.... **** man.

tell the promo guy at stars to keep giving real good promos like this one.

happy to see you guys only won 50-100$. i'm less tilted to miss the promo.

On a Russian poker forum, a few players have reported getting $500-1000.

-24 BIs in 38 games is a common swing in 180-mans - it's only 1 standard deviation away from the expectation. Upswings of course tend to be for a big number of buy-ins too.

There's no sense in tilting, luck will be on your side sometime. I'm dreaming about this kind of a promo (as well as milestone hands, Beat the Clock, SM ticket giveaways) becoming weekly, though of course they'll need to be less generous and possibly tougher in order to be sustainable.