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07-14-2010 , 06:48 PM

#101

ItsNotLupus

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 487

I guess Chiren is already on a plane to the Isle of Man.

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07-14-2010 , 06:50 PM

#102

PokerStars Steve

PokerStars Poker Room

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,002

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Originally Posted by mrdurdenptp

Oh and if any SNE wants to do this with me I am game. $10 flips as many or little tables as you want.

This would be abuse of the VIP Program and thus is not allowed.

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07-14-2010 , 06:51 PM

#103

exec771

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 17,484

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Originally Posted by ItsNotLupus

I guess Chiren is already on a plane to the Isle of Man.

yup, stuff like this can only be explained face to face with a camera in hand.

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07-14-2010 , 06:55 PM

#104

ItsNotLupus

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 487

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

This would be abuse of the VIP Program and thus is not allowed.

But what Chiren is doing is perfectly acceptable? I really cant see much of a difference.

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07-14-2010 , 06:58 PM

#105

yesright

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,345

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

This would be abuse of the VIP Program and thus is not allowed.

This thread is starting to get more interesting.

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07-14-2010 , 06:59 PM

#106

Borys313

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,853

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

This would be abuse of the VIP Program and thus is not allowed.

But thats exactly what Chiren is doing.

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07-14-2010 , 07:01 PM

#107

GloupnaktouK

adept

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 749

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

This would be abuse of the VIP Program and thus is not allowed.

That's what one of the players who represent your site is doing. Do you see the problem?

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07-14-2010 , 07:01 PM

#108

Peter-Pan

banned

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17

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Originally Posted by ItsNotLupus

But what Chiren is doing is perfectly acceptable? I really cant see much of a difference.

What chiren is doing is WORSE

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07-14-2010 , 07:02 PM

#109

Scandinit

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 235

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Originally Posted by ItsNotLupus

But what Chiren is doing is perfectly acceptable? I really cant see much of a difference.

But he's so funny! And he could just post some pics of his gf and kill this discussion.

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07-14-2010 , 07:03 PM

#110

GloupnaktouK

adept

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 749

PS Steve, please come back and tell us how it is acceptable for one of your reps to do exactly what you just forbid a regular player to do.

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07-14-2010 , 07:04 PM

#111

mrdurdenptp

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

This would be abuse of the VIP Program and thus is not allowed.

what exactly is against the rules?

flipping? But me and a couple people could sit down and play out hands 'normally' by what raising and folding pre, then shoving the river?

I mean really what is the difference between chirens admitted 'aggro' play and my idea

I dont even get 100% RB. I would take a $.05 loss per hand. after rakeback

oh and a link to that rule would be stellar

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07-14-2010 , 07:06 PM

#112

ItsNotLupus

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 487

Steve is just trolling here. He read the entire thread and replied to an offtopic post.

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07-14-2010 , 07:08 PM

#113

GloupnaktouK

adept

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 749

It's not against the rules if you're a sonpsored pro.

Everyone was giving FTP so much **** after the whole Townsend incident(s) for not doing anything about it, but PS is the same, they just hadn't had an opportunity to show it up to this point....

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07-14-2010 , 07:08 PM

#114

yesright

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,345

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Originally Posted by mrdurdenptp

The same difference in playing hands normally and colluding.

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07-14-2010 , 07:11 PM

#115

MyTurn2Raise

Drug Free MVP

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 40,622

flipping to blow off steam or have fun is much different from
colluding to take advantage of a VIP promotion

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07-14-2010 , 07:12 PM

#116

fastcolt

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,446

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Originally Posted by Mike_The_Mad

Yeah...... and for a normal play PokerStars would lock account immediately.

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Originally Posted by Snowman808

And everybody was rooting for him when he was going for pro status.

He's a douche f him

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Originally Posted by babar86

wow, I actually supported him when he was attention whoring. Since he is pro, he does do **** for the community, is not a grinder anymore and cheats the system. Congrats Chiren, you now are in my dbag list.

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Originally Posted by GloupnaktouK

all of this lmao chiren **** you really

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07-14-2010 , 07:14 PM

#117

mrdurdenptp

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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise

flipping to blow off steam or have fun is much different from
colluding to take advantage of a VIP promotion

im not really taking advantage if it costs me $.05/hand

If i was somehow getting over 100% rakeback i could definitely see stars not wanting me to do it.

But I don't get that. I LOSE money to the rake. I would think that they would love me to do this.

And if i weren't SNE I would be losing $.11 per hand as a supernova. Why the hell would stars not want people to just hand them free money.

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07-14-2010 , 07:14 PM

#118

rugmuncher

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,732

Stars new slogan?

learn , chat and abuse the bonus system with the pros

Someone pls explain how to abuse this promo without "abusing it"

I'll be at the euro plo tables ( i dont mind taking a loss as long as i can get to my milestone quicker.

Last edited by rugmuncher; 07-14-2010 at 07:19 PM. Reason: deff some angel shooting ITT

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07-14-2010 , 07:15 PM

#119

Alobar

Born Ready

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 42,368

I dont get why anyone would hate on chiren for this. He figures this is the most profitable way to spend his time at the tables, and stars is allowing him to do it. So good for him I say.

The hate should be directed at stars if you disagree with what he is doing, since they are the ones allowing it.

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Originally Posted by PokerStars Steve

This would be abuse of the VIP Program and thus is not allowed.

stars is really going downhill

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07-14-2010 , 07:17 PM

#120

IamPro

one time Plz???

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,652

Anyone want to play some "aggro" poker?

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07-14-2010 , 07:17 PM

#121

sofocused978

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,765

lol @ PSSteves response.....wtf was that

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07-14-2010 , 07:18 PM

#122

mrdurdenptp

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Originally Posted by IamPro

Anyone want to play some "aggro" poker?

meeeee

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07-14-2010 , 07:19 PM

#123

MyTurn2Raise

Drug Free MVP

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 40,622

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Originally Posted by mrdurdenptp

I was discussing Chiren80 doing it

If it's true that Chiren80 is getting over 100% due to his deal and this strategy, He is ripping off every player at PokerStars. It's one thing to take advantage of poorly constructed promos that everyone else can do until the site cuts it off. In this, he is using the unique status that other players got for him to rip other players off. I would think it deserves to be cut off.