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Old 07-14-2010, 02:23 PM   #1
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PokerStars Pro Chiren80 Cheating (dumping back/forth for VPPs?)

He sits at 24(sitting out on most) €NL10 FR tables and shoving every hand preflop vs 3J55. When he has won a couple of stacks he leaves, then dumps it back to 3J55.

Is this allowed, I mean since he is a representant of PokerStars and maybe benefits from raking a lot?

Also they seem to sit out if other players sit in.

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Old 07-14-2010, 02:39 PM   #2
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

Yeah that sounds like the perfect plan to rack up the VPPs lollll wtf is wrong with you?
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:41 PM   #3
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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Yeah that sounds like the perfect plan to rack up the VPPs lollll wtf is wrong with you?
Chiren80 is a 'Team Online Pro' member and receives >100% rakeback.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:42 PM   #4
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

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Yeah that sounds like the perfect plan to rack up the VPPs lollll wtf is wrong with you?
well, since micro mania gives 12,5 VPP/€1 rake and they go allin on 4+ tables, it's a very fast way to get vpps.
and ofc 100%+ rb...
what is wrong with you?
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:58 PM   #5
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

Wow, he can't be this stupid could he?

According to PTR hes been doing this for days
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:04 PM   #6
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:15 PM   #7
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

what a tard....he better hope they don't pull the plug on him for these 'nanigans.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:15 PM   #8
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

hmmm
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:18 PM   #9
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

Since they go allin every hand or bet half stack and fold they should get 500+ hands/hour.
Each hand rakes 25c from each player.
25c = 3,125 VPP.
500*3,125 = 1562,5 VPP/h at least
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:18 PM   #10
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

Hope someone has pointed one of the PS reps to this thread
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:21 PM   #11
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

Well, if anyone had any doubt as to whether he was a total moron, at least that's cleared up.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:26 PM   #12
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

is it possible he is getting the axe and knows it?

otherwise this makes no sense
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:29 PM   #13
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is it possible he is getting the axe and knows it?

otherwise this makes no sense
doubt it, cause isnt chip dumping grounds for accoutn banning and seizing of funds?
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:33 PM   #14
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

is it chip dumping if they both agree to shove pre but have no relation to each other?
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:39 PM   #15
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

are they both just going AIPF? are they just flipping?
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:41 PM   #16
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are they both just going AIPF? are they just flipping?
No, as I tried to show in some of my pics half of the hands one of them raises pre for like 50bbs and other guy calls, just to c/f flop. I even saw Chiren fold in a 400bb pot with like 20bbs left. They are just chipping it back and forth to generate rake.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:41 PM   #17
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

Lol. Altho net, PS still makes money, since the other guy has to pay rake.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:42 PM   #18
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please ban this guy never liked him
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:43 PM   #19
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Lol. Altho net, PS still makes money, since the other guy has to pay rake.
Chiren probably dumps a bit so that his friend get even at least, don't you think?
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:44 PM   #20
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

can it really be called dumping if they're just flipping for ****s n giggles?
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:44 PM   #21
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can it really be called dumping if they're just flipping for ****s n giggles?
They are not flipping.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:45 PM   #22
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

This looks more like collusion than chip dumping.

So, don't expect ps to act for at least 6 months.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:48 PM   #23
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

I have now PMd Chiren about this thread so he at least has a chance of defending himself.
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:49 PM   #24
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

what the hell, how could he be this stupid?
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Old 07-14-2010, 03:49 PM   #25
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Re: PokerStars Pro Chiren80 dumping back/forth for VPPs?

can't be anything wrong. neither appears to be from wenzhou.
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