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09-18-2020 , 04:48 PM
FYI. I'll consider this rakeback but the sportsbook offers some ridiculous double your money bet boosts, not sure how often they go up but easy enough to pick up a free $10. Tuesday was "will Jokic score" even money and this week is "will the Eagles score" even money up to $10.
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09-18-2020 , 05:48 PM
They have those fairly regularly.
Roethlisberger to throw ONE touchdown pass. Things like that.
Couple weeks ago they had "Flyers to score a goal in Game 7"...and they were shut out. Probably had a 95% chance to hit and paid even money. Oh well. Sometimes the longshot comes through.
Otherwise it is fairly close to sure money most of the time and a nice perk from them in their efforts to encourage betting on other games.
I similarly look at it as similar to rakeback.
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09-18-2020 , 06:38 PM
Been trying to grab all the freebies also..free money is great
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09-19-2020 , 10:00 AM
Anyone here using PS on 4k/hud screen with scaling that is not 100%? Is your PS application blurry?
For me, everything but 100% scaling or turning on override scaling in compatibility tab makes app blurry.
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09-19-2020 , 08:24 PM
How do you find the double your $ easy bets?
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09-20-2020 , 02:41 PM
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I have been wondering if there are other people who would be interested enough in starting a poker grind shop/house. Either if people within the state or outside would be willing to move to play and live with other players if they were offered accommodations like meals covered, coaching, laundry, etc.

If you were presented with a ~2500/mo package that included living accommodations, provisions, coaching, etc would you be interested?

Feel free to PM if you have interest or thoughts.
are you paying me $2500 or am i paying you $2500?

in for the former
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09-21-2020 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Baked Potato
How do you find the double your $ easy bets?
It's usually towards the top on the fox bet side.

It also has a max bet of $10. It's not much, but some of the bets they offer are almost a guarantee.
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09-21-2020 , 09:33 PM
Site is slow as hell tonight.


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09-22-2020 , 08:45 PM
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Site is slow as hell tonight.


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I played last night and had no problems at all. Weird.
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09-23-2020 , 01:40 AM
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Site is slow as hell tonight.
It was correlated with Monday Night Football so I'm thinking maybe some site traffic issues now that NFL is back??
Also had a new software update today, so maybe some bug???
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09-23-2020 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WheatThins_5k
They have those fairly regularly.
Roethlisberger to throw ONE touchdown pass. Things like that.
Couple weeks ago they had "Flyers to score a goal in Game 7"...and they were shut out. Probably had a 95% chance to hit and paid even money. Oh well. Sometimes the longshot comes through.
Otherwise it is fairly close to sure money most of the time and a nice perk from them in their efforts to encourage betting on other games.
I similarly look at it as similar to rakeback.
All the $10 ones are gimmes like WheatThins said.
There are some other props you have to do some homework on.
For example, there is a promo right now: +200 for MIA & JAX each to score 1 TD per half...max $50.
It might seem like a slam dunk with these two particular teams (good offenses, bad defenses).
However, the NFL league average for this condition thru 2 weeks is 36.67%.
The 2019 regular season average for this condition is 35.94%.

So given the odds +200 (betting $50 to win net $100) the EV of this bet is somewhere around $4-$5 dollars.
Best case it amounts to EV~$10-$12 for these two teams.
It probably took me 20-30 minutes to get all that data so not a great hourly.

So, tl;dr be skeptical of the prop unless it is painfully obvious like original examples.
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09-23-2020 , 11:57 AM
How did you find the 2019 average for this? You didn't really look through every single box score from 2019, did you?

I skipped the research and had decided to bet on that one already anyway...knowing that this one isn't a gimmie but assuming it was most likely to still be +EV or even at worse. Can't say the same for other boosted props elsewhere on the site and some homework is certainly necessary to determine if they are okay. But the one they list in that specific space as a Super Boost or whatever they call it is typically decent.

Some are really good value even if they aren't total gimmies. TB -7.5 at +300 was an example. So a $20 bet paid $60 profit that would normally pay $18 profit at -110. Obviously not a guarantee that TB would win by 8 or more. But you are getting essentially a coin-flip or toss-up bet that pays back triple if you win. Super-easy value on some of these.
Probably best to throw in an occasional bet on some other games as well so you aren't JUST bonus/booster-hunting on the sports side.
Sports betting sites can and will boot players who only bet the promos or boosts. In this situation though, they might overlook it if you are paying $1000/mth (or more) in poker rake. No idea.
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09-23-2020 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WheatThins_5k
How did you find the 2019 average for this? You didn't really look through every single box score from 2019, did you?
I did. I was able to get all box scores by week and do a quick visual count, only looking into recaps for 6pt quarters. It converged very quickly so I probably could have stopped after just a few weeks (didn't know that going in), I was in a data mining mode from some other excel stuff, so it was fine. It was a good reality check.

Had CAR +8.5 😣 at regular odds & yeah that game turned out to be a coin flip, so I like your idea with finding line value.
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09-23-2020 , 01:54 PM
Haha. Interesting. I have to get better at stuff like that. One assumes the sites that are providing such a prop have already run such numbers AND have a stronger database at their disposal.
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09-24-2020 , 02:37 PM
What's the deal with Unsophisticated? He's always sitting at limit games but seems to always sit out when someone tries to play.
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09-24-2020 , 05:00 PM
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What's the deal with Unsophisticated? He's always sitting at limit games but seems to always sit out when someone tries to play.
Ive seen him do this tons for NLHE 6m too
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09-27-2020 , 02:40 AM
Hello everyone. Just wanted to bring to your attention that stars has increased their rake/decreased their rewards system once again. One of the worst companies/poker sites on this planet. Party pokers business model has been the opposite of stars, and i personally cannot wait to play all my poker on there. Highly recommend everyone plays party when it finally launches, and tell everyone on the site to do the same. Much better playing environment for players at all stakes and all skill levels.
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09-27-2020 , 01:57 PM
Hi Thepokerchamp,

I'm sorry to hear this. There has been some recent discussion in NVG that perhaps PokerStars was going to be making some adjustments to rewards/marketing that might make more value available to regular players.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...61/index4.html (from Post #94)

The ensuing analysis was derived from a Flutter H1-2020 presentation that occured this past August.
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09-27-2020 , 06:50 PM
Details?

Surfing around trying to figure it out but not getting very far. Thanks.

I too am looking forward to Party emergence in Pa. Hurry up with that already!


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Hello everyone. Just wanted to bring to your attention that stars has increased their rake/decreased their rewards system once again. One of the worst companies/poker sites on this planet. Party pokers business model has been the opposite of stars, and i personally cannot wait to play all my poker on there. Highly recommend everyone plays party when it finally launches, and tell everyone on the site to do the same. Much better playing environment for players at all stakes and all skill levels.
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09-27-2020 , 06:55 PM
Additional value available via the free "Fox Bet Super 6" app which is separate from the Fox Bet app.
Make random free picks and win a few bucks in sports bets. Bet it once on sports and it immediately becomes part of your cash balance that is poker or sports.

Today they had a contest to pick various outcomes in the Eagles/Bengals game. Who would score the first TD? How many TD in the third Q?
With every pick you got right you received $5.

Other contests as well that are a bigger longshot against the entire base. Picking NFL winning margins for example. But just throw some random picks in there and you might get $20 or something.

Anyway, it is sort of similar to the almost-gimmie bets that FoxBet occasionally has. The Super 6 thing is free so it is long term value and you don't have to waste any time thinking about your picks if you don't want.

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Originally Posted by WheatThins_5k
They have those fairly regularly.
Roethlisberger to throw ONE touchdown pass. Things like that.
Couple weeks ago they had "Flyers to score a goal in Game 7"...and they were shut out. Probably had a 95% chance to hit and paid even money. Oh well. Sometimes the longshot comes through.
Otherwise it is fairly close to sure money most of the time and a nice perk from them in their efforts to encourage betting on other games.
I similarly look at it as similar to rakeback.
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09-28-2020 , 05:49 AM
Get $5 free for every Mahomes and Lamar Jackson touchdown (passing and rushing) if bet $10 on outcome wagers under -200 on today's (Monday) night game.

There's some free money. I'd guess something like $35 in ev.
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09-28-2020 , 08:50 AM
What bet do you put $10 on?
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09-28-2020 , 09:19 AM
The moneyline, point spread or over/under for tonight's Chiefs vs. Ravens game. $10 wager. I'd personally go w/ Ravens moneyline.
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09-28-2020 , 11:19 AM
Is there a work-around for the constant disconnects? And by constant, I mean once a minute last night. Never had them this bad before.

Last edited by K3nTaKa0s; 09-28-2020 at 11:26 AM.
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09-28-2020 , 11:20 AM
Do only PokerStars accounts get these bets?

Don't they burn $ giving away the free bets?
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