After looking over the internet at some similar occurrences of money being withheld and accounts being banned it seems this might be the best place to get some feedback. Here is some history and any feedback is appreciated and if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Nov 2017- Account overdrawn via echeck and negative balance. No longer able to play. Depositing via echeck got out of control and ended up with -$1500 balance. Mainly due to an impulsive depositing issue. Objective was to get more money into the account than what was deposited. This clearly didn't happen and boom, into the red $1500. Account open and active but clearly unable to play tournaments with negative balance.

Dec 17'-Oct 18' played with friend and shared account. Both of us deposited and played on this account, never had any large scores (Didn't cash out once and probably down $5-7k over this time frame).

Oct 18- Open account with brother, split deposit (2x$100) satellite into Bounty Series $215 and come 2/1350 people for $24,600 USD.

Oct 20-Account is under review. Ask for all information. Responded and explained that Account 2 was brother's account. Didn't realize we couldn't play together after watching twitch streams lately with two people sponsored playing in the same house as well as Mercier playing a 100k on Sommerville's live stream.

Nov 20- Email from Stars stating all accounts are closed and all funds are seized. $30,000!!!

The accounts were associated to actual people and the money on the account which won the $24,600 USD in the tournament had two $100 deposits on it and nothing else.

If anyone has any insight or ideas please let me know and I am willing to provide any further information necessary. After reading some historical posts it looks like there are some people on the forum here that may have some influence in the poker world.

Thanks!

WOW! Gambling addiction + multi-accounting x 2= Out of control. You ****ed yourself.

more202,

I don't really care much for the detail of your story (it generally sounds like you were a douchebag) but if you're unhappy with PokerStars' decision here, then just ask them for information on how you can appeal against their decision. You will probably find it easiest to appeal through their internal processes, before going down the path of complaining to regulators, courts, and so on (if you choose).

Generally, their internal decision making process in individual cases here has been pretty highly regarded, even though inexperienced staff can sometimes make mistakes. Thus, asking PokerStars to appeal is probably the best path here for you - especially since PokerStars likely have a lot of information that you have not shared with us publicly.

You are really using this this to defend your own actions? Did you even watch the Merciers stream? He played the tournament from his own account making all the decisions. How is that even remotely similar to your case with gambling addiction and creating multiple accounts and funding that with two people. Only thing you missed is using false ids or stolen creditcards.

No offence but hopefulyl not for you.

lol you are never seeing a penny of that again.

10.4
A User may only have one User account with The Stars Group and shall only use the Service using such single account. It is prohibited for a User to open multiple accounts with The Stars Group. In the event that The Stars Group becomes aware of additional accounts opened by a User, The Stars Group may close such additional accounts without notice and may confiscate funds held in such additional accounts.

Well playrd by stars
They should've done it sooner.
You literally broke every rule you could :-)

I would like to forward this info to pokerstars. You admit to having 3 accounts open one of which had a -$1500 balance. Also you stated that you lost another 5-7k on your friends account. Why did you not use some of this money to pay Pokerstars back the $1500 that you owed them?

A healthy percentage of posters like this never read the thread after their initial post, so asking questions is generally pointless.

Was nice of this OP to save time in people speculating what he left out by openly admitting to violating about as many rules as possible. Even with all of that, he likely left out some more details, but it does not matter much at this point.

I find it funny that people are aloud to break rules until they win something. Poker in general is not a moral world. It really is twisted in its sense of right and wrong.

Agreed

I think it’s Bs also

Rooting for you OP to get your $, although you won’t

Neither people that are a. loud or b. quiet are ALLOWED to break rules until they win something. Every account just doesn't get micro examined when made. Standard to examine when withdrawing. And to Carl Trooper; I'll find great irony if it ever came to light, someone broke the TOS of a site- multi-accounted- and caused you financial harm.

Your post seems to be based on the nonsense idea that PokerStars allowed the OP to steal from them. This is idiotic.

You're not "allowed" to commit crimes simply because the police don't catch you. That's not what the word means.

As long as people aren’t using it to tag team someone... I have no problem with someone having 500 accounts.

And I have no problem with a site closing the accounts and seizing the funds of folks blatantly multi-accounting.

Rules and morals are two different things. I get why we have rules and why they need to be followed. To often though, rules are applied without the spirit or intention of the rule. It is used just for the gain of others. Some people think breaking and bending the rules is part of the game, but I do not think this was the op way of thinking.

It may not have been his way of thinking, but ignorance is no excuse in this case. He is obviously a problem gambler and his brother and friend were no help either. Hard to believe they can stream poker pros, but don't know enough not to multi-account. As another poster noted, we also don't know what he left out of his story.

I like to read these type of posts for the LOL factor. Gotta say, this is one of the all-time greats.

Congrats, dude!

I wish the american sites had security like poker stars. They are not shy with that ban hammer. You sound like you had several accounts. Whats poker stars supposed to do let you play with all those different accounts with family members? I get it you probably weren't cheating but you gotta look at it from their end.

when they have a bannable offense, unless its disrupting other players, its smarter for them to wait for you to work for them and make money, then when you try to cash it out, they just take it and ban you. No one has to know (or can prove) that they do this either.

The idea that it would be "smart" for PokerStars to allow people to steal money from them, and then deliberately allow players keep playing with that stolen money because they might win in the future is a completely dumb and idiotic idea.

This is completely wrong, it makes no sense, and made everyone who read your post a little more stupid.

Your post makes no sense to me. I suppose english or empathy is not your first language.

Or perhaps you are just a really really dumb person?

gg amaya has to look out for their bottom line

you werent aware of rules that have been imposed since stars started in the early 2000s.. lol 30k lost would suck so much dick.

Who came third? Maybe someone can ask him if he was moved up a notch and paid the money for second?