Well, I wasn't convinced the first time you posted your evidence-free assertion (in the since-deleted thread in the Software forum), and still wasn't sure the second time you posted it. But now that you've posted it three times, I'm convinced! What really won me over was you saying it was 100% rigged, because of course you wouldn't ever post that without having a mountain of evidence. It's a shame you can't post it, because...well, I'm actually not sure why you can't. Oh well.

Yeah, something is fishy for sure. I mean I made a million K playing there but for sure it's rigged. Stay away! I mean, I will keep playing just to make sure but you shouldn't, there's something really fishy about the games on this app. STAY AWAY!!

I know you are more cool than me with 47k posts, but, what if you are wrong?
Did you played there?
What is your evidence cool man?

did you played there?

Rigged
Morning my dear,
I’ve missed you near,
Let’s have a sesh,
Please do your best,
The players are who they are,
But you my love,
Control from the dark,
You’ve been kind at times and allowed me to win,
But then taken all that you’ve given with no chagrin,
It’s true that I have not been faithful,
but that’s because,
quite simply,
your a RIGGED BIT$%

Found this thread because I did a google search attempting to support what we all already know, that this BIT$% is RIGGED. Started playing about a year ago and won a chunk. Great agent, always pays. Massive swings. Stopped playing because the winnings stagnated due to the rigged software and my clubs dried up. Just started up again after a 6 month break and won 2.5k playing 2/4 roughly 3k hands first week smashing everything and now I'm even over the last monthish. I think the software was welcoming me back to try to hook me again. Experienced everything terrible everyone else here has said. Only other thing to add is that I seem to smash tons of flops with the hands that I fold preflop. It's like the software is encouraging me to play garbage hands. I imagine that when I flop top two, another guy who folded flopped bottom two and another a FD, another a SD etc. That's why there is so much action, the flops miraculously hit everyone. I play scared although the software does seem to favor me.


It's possible that they want most players to break even because as we know most players in poker are losing but if they can keep the players breaking even they can keep them around longer and they can keep raking. They also may have the software rigged to favor people who build big pots because they will accumulate more rake.

I used to joke with my friend when discussing hands that the software has a high action switch that they flip on from time to time. Now it seems like that switch is on all the time.

Obviously the players can be exploited, I’m focusing now on ways to exploit/beat the software.

Anyone have any ideas, theories?


PT
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Wrong about what? Evidence of what? I'm not the one asserting anything. I have no idea if it's rigged there or not. It very well could be - but you've not given me any reason to think it is.

I agree. there is something wrong on PM. I play there mostly plo. A lot of people tell the same story. collusion, rigged rng ....
I am a winner there thanks mostly to hu. but never been able to beat the sh.... very strict selection table, a lot of volume. easiest tables I have ever played . IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN and the setups are so unreal at this frequency on a large volume. quads vs top full, quads vs quads str8 flushs...

It's possible that they want most players to break even because as we know most players in poker are losing but if they can keep the players breaking even they can keep them around longer and they can keep raking. They also may have the software rigged to favor people who build big pots because they will accumulate more rake.

I used to joke with my friend when discussing hands that the software has a high action switch that they flip on from time to time. Now it seems like that switch is on all the time.

Obviously the players can be exploited, I’m focusing now on ways to exploit/beat the software.

Anyone have any ideas, theories?


PT
​i feel the same. I believe the rng is built to keep the money on the website. everything has to fall in the rake and insurance. a pure scam. Some people has to win if not their system wont work

Most pots go 3-5 way on an 8 man table on PM. Of course there are going to be more "coolers". It's incomparable to a site like stars where 75% of the hands are basically heads up pots with defined ranges. It's not an RNG issue.

plo sh 6 seats.. I ve played millions of hands . I know perfectly what is volatily. what I see there and experience is just not realistic on a large volume.
You dont believe me? open the tables and let run your tracker. you will see..

http://replay.pokermate.net:8080/han...291c64&lang=en

a fresh one...
you gonna see the frequency of this kind of ****s. the number of str8 flush vs flush max , quads vs full.... set over set.

in plo action is almost dead sh , a lot of regs have been killed. tables were amazing during a long time and not a single good reg I know have been able to win. seriously?

From you , few weeks ago.

A comment maybe?.

Why don't you share the data from your tracker?

I'm having a little trouble reconciling these two posts.

the 2nd post is what timstone said few weeks ago about the rng....

http://replay.pokermate.net:8080/han...656056&lang=en

same session today . look that

I used hand2note , I dont know how to share it... but be my guest play there. try and tell us what you feel after a month or 2

http://replay.pokermate.net:8080/han...814234&lang=en

the frequency is insane .... I didnt want to believe that this ****ing rng is absolutely rigged on sh tables. I dont think it advantages some players in particular. it is built to **** everybody.

Where?

Because I wondered if you might have cut-and-paste and made it confusing by
not using quote tags, but I searched the thread for some of the words, and came up empty.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...legit-1713346/

Ah, a different thread - thanks. I'll go back and fix your post so it's clear that was a quote and not your words.

http://replay.pokermate.net:8080/han...2e450c&lang=en

the next hand rolf
http://replay.pokermate.net:8080/han...b064ba&lang=en

you dont even need a tracker , just open some tables and watch....

I could do that all day..... seriously that seems legit??????
I can not believe that agents who have a lot of players have never heard complaints. you have to know that they make money on turnover. you think they're not going to come here say it's rigged?

it should be a major topic on the forum. how many sites are promoting these crappy apps?

thats the story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz1WYJmWFuk

I was ready to post another str8 flush from today.... but I guess it is not necessary..

In summary, the agents have only big winners, no one complains, it is a cash machine and it would be silly not to play.
the reality is a lot of collusion, in NL it's full bots, and the rng is a joke.
If you want to be f...cked a little more. They offer 100% Chinese or premium fish clubs. 7% rake ...

Runs on pm are different. Heaters are way bigger than stars heaters and downers likewise are way worse. Overall i stand by my words that it's certainly weird but fair. Otherwise results would be different... you could argue that if things were "normal" people would win even more but observed winrates are already higher than regular sites so this is quite a stretch...

how that can be fair lol? you are just saying it is rigged. you gonna be jesus or a sh** horse. That means they manipulate the RNG no?

Is it now possible to run these apps on chrome OS or do emulators still work better?

I recommend not to play there since there is a lot of collusion and there are third-party softwares such as alphapoker. Even chinese fish use those real-time GTO software.

hey anyone have advice on whether its possible to play the apps on pc ?

It is possible using emulators.

Pokermaster seems to be putting alot more emphasis on busting colluders now as it seems which means them using a software to detect if players are colluding and if so confiscating balances.

However due to this some of my players (where im 99% sure playing fair) getting false positives every now and then. Anybody else has made some experiences with players wrongly accused of collusion within Pokermaster?

thanks

Besides colluders, PokerMaster is full of bots. I know for a fact that some clubs don't give a **** about bots or colluders and simply let them play 24/7.

Moreover, a friend of mine who played on PokerMaster said, that clubs are able to increase the variance. So flush boards pair more often on by the river, etc.