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03-03-2024 , 04:20 PM
If a reliable agent with decent RB can pm me and provide some references as well that would be appreciated
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03-04-2024 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermsJ
If a reliable agent with decent RB can pm me and provide some references as well that would be appreciated
I cant PM but i have been in the same bros club for years payed out every single time minimal delay and I can say i wholeheartedly trust my agent and they give good RB and can increaqse it if youre loyal. Do u have discord or something i can send u my agents details
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03-04-2024 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Vronge
Yah, my results fell off a cliff about 12-18 months ago and I play a mix of PLO5 and 6 low stakes on Bros. It feels like either massive unfairness in the games or a bottom 5% run. Sample size is only about 250k I guess, so not a huge sample, but I'm on the verge of switching games or maybe even careers soon.
Bro Ive been hearing this way too much. I have around a 300k sample and it feels like the software wont let me win past a certain point. I have positve ROI but its just plateued for the past year +. Can you relate to absurd upswings where you just crush the game for a few weeks or month running really hot followed by a month or so of absurd bottom 5% downsings? This has happened to me for a year now causing the platuea. Ive never been more concerned with a poker sites software until now. Im genuinely starting to believe that pokerbros software is not fair and causes aburd unatural swings in either directions for everyone, whale or pro.
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03-07-2024 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Vronge
Yah, my results fell off a cliff about 12-18 months ago and I play a mix of PLO5 and 6 low stakes on Bros. It feels like either massive unfairness in the games or a bottom 5% run. Sample size is only about 250k I guess, so not a huge sample, but I'm on the verge of switching games or maybe even careers soon.
same, also play similar games. pretty much every other week is just some bankroll crushing downswing. a couple years ago i was crushing with no rakeback anywhere, nowadays if i wasnt playing with 55-65% most places i wouldnt be able to pay the bills. yes, the games aren't as soft as they were but they havent gotten that much tougher. im still sitting at tables with a bunch of 60 vpip donks and 90 vpip whales. online poker sucks nowadays.
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03-09-2024 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Vronge
Is anyone even winning here anymore?

I play 5/6 card PLO and was a consistent winner for 3 years up to 2/4 until this year. Last 100k hands I'm getting absolutely smoked. I'm only playing .5/1 now at -11.5bb/100 and even EV is -6.5bb/100. Every session just a repeat of running into top of ranges, running poorly in all ins, etc. I guess games are getting tougher, probably card sharing going up, rake way too high, etc. I've even been table selecting like a madman lately, and nothing can turn it around.
Lol, I thought I was going insane. I have been playing BROS since the start and have over 750k hands on here. I have been a huge winner since the start, playing PLO4 5 and 6 up to 5/10 with shots at 10/20. Now in my last 165k hands, it has been absolute insanity. I am down heaps and running 80k below ev just at 2/4. I seem to lose every single all in or if we run twice and I am a huge fav I chop every time. Now games are obviously tougher than before, but it's also funny that every time I am in a game with a mega whale he stacks me over and over playing 100% vpip then gives my money away to some uber nit reg and game breaks. I also wish I could tell you how many pots I have lost where it's 4 or 5 bet pre and villian flats leaving like 18 dollars behind and flops me dead every single time.

While typing this I just got it all in with 85% and chopped lol

Oh and the one small club I was still winning in just banned me for winning too much. Lose infinite for months, win 20k get banned.

Last edited by OMGMileyCyrus; 03-09-2024 at 12:39 PM.
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03-09-2024 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGMileyCyrus
Lol, I thought I was going insane. I have been playing BROS since the start and have over 750k hands on here. I have been a huge winner since the start, playing PLO4 5 and 6 up to 5/10 with shots at 10/20. Now in my last 165k hands, it has been absolute insanity. I am down heaps and running 80k below ev just at 2/4. I seem to lose every single all in or if we run twice and I am a huge fav I chop every time. Now games are obviously tougher than before, but it's also funny that every time I am in a game with a mega whale he stacks me over and over playing 100% vpip then gives my money away to some uber nit reg and game breaks. I also wish I could tell you how many pots I have lost where it's 4 or 5 bet pre and villian flats leaving like 18 dollars behind and flops me dead every single time.

While typing this I just got it all in with 85% and chopped lol
I almost always run it once.
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03-09-2024 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermsJ
If a reliable agent with decent RB can pm me and provide some references as well that would be appreciated
Message sent. I'm @scottjf8 on Twitter also.
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03-09-2024 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by scottjf8
I almost always run it once.
Ya I run twice mainly unless villain only goes once which is fine
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03-09-2024 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scottydizz
Ive been a 6 card plo reg for years on bros and have had some insane below ev stretches a few times now. Overall Im running close to 100 buy ins under ev its been this way for over a year now. Anyone else feel like this. I have alwqays laughed at people claiming online poker is rigged but pokerbros is the only site ive played that really makes me question that. It just feels off sometimes. I also am pretty sure i was colluded so many times in the 1/2 ante extreme games in paridse union. Even when I game select/play lower stakes and am confident my table is full of degen whales 50 percent vpip plus It still feels like im running massively under ev even tho im a big favorite in these games. Am I just running bottom 5% or can any other reg relate.
The 1/2 ante on paradise is 100% a collusion fest
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03-10-2024 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGMileyCyrus
Ya I run twice mainly unless villain only goes once which is fine
Well duh they cant run it twice just for you lmao
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03-26-2024 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGMileyCyrus
The 1/2 ante on paradise is 100% a collusion fest
All games on paradise union are a collusion fest. I have to believe the club is involved because they dont seem to care about it
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03-27-2024 , 11:08 AM
Isn't PanAm an even worse offender than Paradise? I've been hearing for awhile that those games are collusion fests. Maybe Paradise has closed the gap.
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03-27-2024 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Vronge
Isn't PanAm an even worse offender than Paradise? I've been hearing for awhile that those games are collusion fests. Maybe Paradise has closed the gap.
Maybe the bigger games? I play quite a bit of 5c10c 10c20c PLO6 on PanAmerican and don't see much collusion going on. **** play, yes, but rarely do I see cheating.

Also if you didn't know, if you go into table settings and enable "badges" it shows who at the same table are in the same club (denoted by a similar colored "C" under their name.). So if you see 2 guys with the same color and see something going on, then it's possible. You can report that stuff (not like PB cares or will do anything.)
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03-29-2024 , 04:44 AM
Ya. For omaha at micros on all the bigger bros unions seems fine to play.

Rake really high tho like close to 20bb/100, but never feel like im playing bots/cheaters. I stopped playing nlhe on them years ago however.
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03-30-2024 , 07:48 AM
In the bigger Union's it seems fair to play in my eyes too. If you do have a good deal, you can make a ton of money there for sure. Lot of degenerated Players around.
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04-01-2024 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ThermsJ
If a reliable agent with decent RB can pm me and provide some references as well that would be appreciated
Mail me t.me/ALLPOKERAPPS and we'll make the best deal for you.

CLUBS
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04-02-2024 , 07:57 AM
Looking for clubs to play NL200+ No limit holdem with good rakeback.

Please send me offers.
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04-02-2024 , 08:30 AM
There have been massive bot rings exposed on all the apps at plo4/5/6. They card share as well. Probably why you guys are getting fleeced lately
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04-02-2024 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mdroz247
There have been massive bot rings exposed on all the apps at plo4/5/6. They card share as well. Probably why you guys are getting fleeced lately
Can you please post some evidence?

I’m not questioning if it’s true just a bold claim to make without proof.
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04-03-2024 , 06:04 AM
Personally i have never felt anything shady, solid sample 100-400 4 card (200 main game) in the bigger unions.
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04-05-2024 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HachikoG
What are some software recommendations for HUD / hand tracking for PokerBros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-V2jHE4Mf0&t=7s
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Yesterday , 04:18 AM
I see a lot of people here recommended Dustin for agent. I have used him for something like ~ 3 months, I wanna share my experience with him and I have been using others agents in the past for Pokerbros.

- started with the classic 30% rakeback and no withdrawal fee

- asked him from the beginning if btc or usdt was possible for withdrawal, he told me yes no problem

- created new accounts and asked chips transfer from old to new, he asked me why told me that it shouldn't be an habit because he must pay 5% for each chips transfer, told him ok, I gonna pay for the chips transfer you can deduct it from my chips

- each time I withdraw via crypto he makes me pay for the sending fees, I can't choose which cryptocurrencies (usdt obv would be the best) and often he sent me via bitcoin

- did 12 withdrawals total with him, 4 was sent after 48 hours, 5 sent after 36 hours, 1 sent in 24 hours, 1 sent in 12 hours and 1 sent in 1 hour. So yea, each withdrawal shouldn't take more than 24 hours from my experiences so really not impressed by the processing time

- after something like 2 months he told me that he's loosing money with me and that now gonna be 20% rakeback and 4% fees when withdrawing by crypto. How is he loosing money even possible when I pay from my own pocket for chips transfers and he deduct the sending fees from my money when sending me crypto, how is it possible? lol

- last withdrawal took me 48 hours to receive all my money on my accounts, told him that btc sending fees now super high so probably best to send me in usdt or eth to which he answers that they don't have now yet and are waiting for btc prices sending fees to be lower. How can you be an agent and don't have all the time usdt for crypto? Anyway I sent him a message a few hours later that he can sent it now via btc the fees are around 5-10$ for 6 block confirmations (~ 100S/B), 8 hours later he sent me with insane high fees 270S/B (~ 35$) which is clearly way too much at that time, especially for a ~300$ transaction, 1 block confirmation was around 10$ when he sent it. It was a few hours ago, you can check here for the sending fees estimation, https://privacypros.io/tools/bitcoin-fee-estimator/

Now I stopped using him, I don't know if he's really clueless about crypto or just being kinda shady and trying to make me leave but anyway both are not good if you are a winning player and want crypto only for your withdrawals, they are better agents who do crypto withdrawals in 24h max via usdt and pay themselves for the sending fees, just my two cents about Dustin, I would not recommend him.


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I am not expert but doing agent stuffs on non regulated APPs and doing most of it via fiat seems super risky, like how can you fly under the radar if you do multiple 4-5 fig transfers per week via fiat? I am really surprised, most of the time it seems to me that he just was waiting for someone to deposit via crypto to pay me for my withdrawal... look like a red flag to me
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Yesterday , 03:45 PM
In response to the above post:

First of all, Yan (S1cklife) has been using me as an agent on and off since 2020, so I’m not sure why he claimed he’s only used me for 3 months, when it’s been almost 4 years. There are a few other inaccuracies/false statements in his post as well (and many things left out of context), which I guess is why he made a brand new 2+2 account just to slander me for some reason.

Yan’s recent behavior (past 3 months) as a player was unusual and sketchy: every couple weeks he made a batch of brand new accounts, and requested all chips to be transferred from his old accounts to his new accounts. He claimed this was so other players didn’t get reads on him, but, without hard proof, I now have reasons to believe this was likely for other reasons. All his accounts won at microstakes (mostly 20nl) at a rate that I have literally never seen before, and he requested multiple small crypto withdrawals every week. In my interactions with him, he seemed to have a very entitled and bitter attitude.

Since unions charge clubs increasingly high taxes on winning players’ win+rake amounts (up to 19%), Yan’s absurd win:rake ratio over a large sample made him unprofitable to agent for under our previous deal. So I gave him two options: to cash out all his chips at full value with no vig and find another agent, or, if he wanted to stay, to reduce his rakeback % and implement a vig for crypto withdrawals. He chose to stay.

In response to the screenshot: as any club owner or agent knows, the vast majority of unions do in fact settle in fiat, and not crypto.

I am happy to not be working with him anymore and would not recommend Yan (telegram name @yanhaas) as a player to other agents or club owners.

I won’t be responding to this matter in this thread anymore but anyone can feel free to PM me with any questions or for any clarity.

<3
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Yesterday , 06:05 PM
Here you go people if you are winning 15+bb/100 playing micro-stakes on Bro and post about Dustin shady behaviours dealing with winning players, he gonna accuse you of some sort of cheating. What a joke you are really. I am sure the regs here who won constantly at 10+bb/100 playing nl40+ gonna believe you that my win rate at nl10 mostly is impossible, lol. Really you are clueless and shady and you got all my players ID so before accusing me maybe you should have ask Bro to investigate my accounts, which happened a couple of times during this last years and everytime no problem.
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Yesterday , 06:54 PM
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First of all, Yan (S1cklife) has been using me as an agent on and off since 2020, so I’m not sure why he claimed he’s only used me for 3 months, when it’s been almost 4 years.

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And yes, I used Dustin as an agent a couple of months in 2020 or 2021. And this year wanted to try again Dustin for agent after seeing all the posts about him here lately.

If you want to talk about it. Let's do it, during the pandemic always fast withdrawals, Dustin was paying the sending fees when sending via crypto. Got 30%, then 20% rakeback then at the end no rakeback anymore then last withdrawal he sent me with super minimum btc fees 1S/B or 2S/B which made the transaction stuck for almost a week. Probably his way of telling you OK now I don't want to agent you anymore, very classy very professional! This year was the opposite this time my last withdrawal he made me pay the maximum 270S/B when the 1 block confirmations was around 60-80S/B, again very classy and very professional!

After 2020 or 2021 I stopped using Dustin/whatwonder and used somuchpoker.com for agent and was very happy with them, worked with them up to this year and they gave me 30% rakeback the whole time (higher rakeback was possible if raking more), very strange right Dustin? And usdt withdrawals done in 24 hour max and they always would pay for the sending fees. No shady behaviours from them like Dustin
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