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Old 06-24-2007, 12:51 PM   #1
Mike Haven
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Person to person transfers [First post is "MUST READ" for Posting Rules; or receive points]

THERE ARE THREE MAIN, STRICT RULES FOR POSTING IN THIS THREAD
See below.

(Also a few minor rules, so please ensure you read entire post before posting, to avoid receiving an infraction.
Please note that scammers will use any trick possible to steal your money. Impersonation of reputable users is a common method to scam. If you receive an infraction for not following the rules set out in this post, and also an offer from another user, the offer is highly likely to be from a scammer, whatever the "excuses" given for an attempt to trade outside the strict rules may be.

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven View Post
All

If anyone has general questions or comments about p2p trading, please use the new Trading Chat thread.

Thank you.

MH
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*** Neither Twoplustwo.com nor the moderators of these forums take responsibility for transactions in these forums. Twoplustwo.com does not endorse any poster and all transactions instigated herewith are made entirely at your own risk. ***
*** Caveat Emptor - Let The Buyer Beware ***



THREE STRICT RULES FOR POSTING
  • Rule 1) ALL RELEVANT SNs (Screen Names) MUST BE IN EVERY POST.
    See RULE 1 (Screen Names) Expanded below.
    Full disclosure of this information is a condition for using this thread.
    NB: ACR uses your login/account name in their p2p transfers. This is not searchable. You MUST use the relevant SN/screen name/table name in all posts or you will receive infractions.

  • Rule 2) FOR ALL NEW MEMBERS TO 2+2:
    YOUR PM (private message) FUNCTION MUST BE ACTIVATED.
    This will take place after some regular use of the forums.
    DO NOT POST IN THIS THREAD UNTIL THAT TIME.
    ARE MY PMs WORKING? . . DO NOT POST !!! . .

  • Rule 3) NO PAYPAL - period. See this link - #6

Please read on for lesser rules. Infractions are likely for breaking them; particularly for unnecessary bumping of the same or similar trade.


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Chase QuickPay is not recommended - payments sometimes take days to clear and can then be reversed if the sender does not have the funds to cover the payment - see:

August, 2011 - CHASE QUICKPAY TRANSFER REVERSAL
March, 2012 - CHASE QUICKPAY NIGHTMARE

September, 2012 - more CHASE QUICKPAY scams
October, 2012 - two $400 "in-process" QP transfers fail

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JAN2013 Marketplace Warning on Amazon Trades
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Originally Posted by Rainbow Warrior View Post
Wednesday Amazon possible scams

-- Amazon's initial approval of a code transfer is no longer reliable.
-- Codes can be bought and traded before Amazon has a final verification that the purchase method is legit.
-- Amazon later cancels and reclaims fraudulently obtained codes.

-- It also appears possible to enable a transfer reversal, possibly via the original sender making a false claim to Amazon (a la PayPal).
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--You should also read the rest of this OP (Opening Post) before you post.
  • Every trade in this thread must involve AT LEAST ONE poker site
  • Do not "bump" your offer within 20 hours of posting original.
  • Gift Card buying and selling belongs HERE - READ THE STICKY
    MAY2014 update - GIFT CARD transactions are now allowed in this thread - REMEMBER that all transactions MUST include at least ONE poker account - i.e., no gift card for cash/bank transactions
  • PS T$ trades are HERE
  • Poker site and other account-type transfers such as Netspend and Banks are allowed in this thread.
    Instructions on how to load your poker account using Moneypak and Netspend.
  • HOW DO BANK TRANSFERS WORK?
  • BITCOINS explained

  • RULE 1 (Screen Names) Expanded
  • 1a) You must include your relevant sns (poker site names) when you request a transfer or respond to a transfer request. Include them with every post. Posts made without having included your names may be deleted and WILL receive an infraction.
    CONFIRMATIONS require:
    amount,
    2 poker sites= 4 screen names
    or
    1 poker site= 2 screen names.


  • 1b) If you post a different SN from one previously posted, it or your next post must include a full and truthful explanation.

    For example, if you are trying to trade for your horse, brother, father, roomie, etc., you must state this in your request.
    You must include your own SNs AND theirs for the relevant sites. If you don't have a SN on a relevant site, post your SN on your own primary site.


  • 1c) example posts

    Good original post:
    Have $100 on FTP (mynameonftp)
    Want $100 on PS (mynameonps)

    Bad post:
    Have $100 on FTP
    Want $100 on PS
    I will not scam you.


    Good reply post:[/B]
    I'm interested in that trade.
    PM sent.
    FTP (mynameonftp)
    PS (mynameonps)

    Bad post:
    PM sent.


    Good confirmation post:
    Traded my $100 on FTP to PS with UserGuy.
    FTP (mynameonftp), (hisnameonftp)
    PS (mynameonps), (hisnameonps)


    Bad post:
    Confirmed (with a quote that includes incomplete trade info)

***PNG rule*** If you attempt to trade with a Persona Non Grata, that is, with someone who should not even be posting in the thread, per Rules 2) or 3) above, you will also receive an infraction or be banned.

***PM rule***
If you send unsolicited PMs to other users, you may be banned without notice. You must initiate trades either by responding to a posted offer or by making your own post. Users wishing to trade with you will either reply to your PM or see your posted offer and PM you. You may post that you are responding to an offer, but you must include all relevant SNs, including your own, or you may receive infraction points.

***WTF rule*** No one should transfer any amount before an acknowledged agreement has been reached. Offenders may be banned without notice.

***BIZ rule*** The thread is to be looked upon only as a convenience to players having funding difficulties. Profiteering or transfer-business posts which state, say, that people have "unlimited" or large amounts to transfer for a set vig will probably be deleted.

You must include your relevant pokernames when you request a transfer or respond to a transfer request. Include them with every post. Posts made without having included your names may be deleted or edited without notice and will receive an infraction, whether or not you have posted them many times before. If you wish to use this thread, you must respect the volunteer mods' wishes, as they do not have time to search your previous posts for your names. If you post in the thread, you may not remove your SNs at a later time. You may not disguise your SNs; as they must be searchable at a later date, for good references, etc.



SELLING POKER ACCOUNTS AND TRADING INACCESSIBLE FUNDS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Haven View Post
RE: Posters trying to SELL or TRADE US-based FT, PS, UB or AP accounts

We all understand and sympathize with your anger and frustration over recent events and the alleged lack of responsibility displayed by certain poker sites when given the opportunity to release players' own funds back to them.

Unfortunately, attempting to sell or trade these accounts is completely against all rules. Those buying are taking a huge risk and those selling are often offering full access to an account registered to them.
Very risky considering illegal or fraudulent activity could then be done with an account registered in their name.

2+2 transfer threads are meant for trading legitimate funds by active players with active, accessible funds in their own registered accounts.

They are not for selling accounts in any dubious and unsafe manner.

Expect to receive penalties and/or post deletions if you do post such offers.

MH


HOW TO PROTECT YOUR MONEY

2 OF EVERY 3 VICTIMS SENT FIRST TO SCAMMERS WHO HAD NO PREVIOUS TRADES
  • many scammers like to get you off-site and trade using e-mail, skype, AIM, etc. This way they avoid public disclosure and scrutiny of their known shady accounts. They will convince you that you are the risky trader and they are safe.
  • If they won't post in this thread, be concerned.
  • If they attempt to trade from a new or from a dormant account, be concerned.
  • Google("screenname" + poker) all account names looking for any kind of warning.
  • 2+2 Search("sns" + ✔ show all posts) looking for any kind of warning.
  • 2+2 Search(2+2name + ✔ show all posts) looking for any kind of warning or negative comments.


  • Clamper13's Safe Trading Tips (100's of trades - 0 scams)
  • Markusgc's Pro Trading Tips
  • Markusgc's What To Do If Scammed and Persistance
  • WEC's comprehensive Search Tips and AIM Warning
  • D.S.'s more recent Search Tips
  • Suited76's outstanding Safe Trading Advice
  • MicroBob explains Fraudulent Funds - why receiving first is no guarantee
  • Rainbow Warrior's Safe Trading Tips
  • Rainbow Warrior's Updated "Recently Scammed" List

  • SharkScope and PokerTableRatings, among others, are very useful for searching tournament and ring results. Registration at both allows some free daily usage.
- recurring theme -
2 OF EVERY 3 VICTIMS SENT FIRST TO SCAMMERS WHO HAD NO PREVIOUS TRADES

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Please update this thread and post all details if a trade is not going as planned, or if you have not received in the agreed time frame, ASAP. This only serves to protect the other members of this forum, so that the same guy can not scam multiple players. I understand your excuse for not wanting to go public as he was in contact with you the whole time, but please remember, we are only posting facts in the thread so if a trade is not completed as agreed other members can be made aware and take precautions. - Nofx Fan

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Edit/MH: Added 043008:

I've heard that some of the people that have been scammed recently have simply accepted that they have lost their money, and done nothing more about it, thinking that the pokersites can't help them get their money back, so why bother?

Although, admittedly, there is only a very slim chance that you will get your money back, you should still tell the sites that you have been scammed and ask them to put a note on the scammer's account that you have reported them as being a scammer. Also ask them to consider preventing automatic transfers into the alleged scammer's account from other players, to try to prevent others being scammed in the future. Many of the scammers' accounts are new, and they try to scam as many people as they can in a short period of time, before their account becomes known or is closed.

You should probably provide Support with chat logs, e-mail copies, and screenshots to prove your side of the story.

security@blackchippoker.eu (added Dec, 2012)
security@pokerstars.eu
support@carbonpoker.com -or- login for Live Chat
security@cakepoker.com


Policies of Various Sites


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***NEWSFLASH***

Alleged scammer taken to Court!

"On Oct 6th he was sentenced to 3 years in prison followed by 5 years of extended supervision.
During extended supervision:
-not able to possess a computer or the internet without approval
-obtain and maintain full time employment
-pay restitution of ~17k
-comply with all counseling deemed necessary"

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Attempted sales of accounts: See https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...stcount=100217

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To All.

Owing to a very serious issue with excellent quality "forgeries" of Amazon Gift Cards, we did not allow people to trade these, for some months.

We have now removed the bar, but would still recommend that you keep your financial risk to a minimum.

Thank you.

MH, 2/26/12; Edited 7/2/12


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OP update Rainbow Warrior March 2011

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General questions and comments about p2p trading should be posted in the Trading Chat Thread.


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Edit: Re Venmo, see https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=6850

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Edit: See original OP with more applicable comments and suggestions, below.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-22-2017 at 08:48 AM.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:00 PM   #2
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Re: Person to person transfers.

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Hi, welcome to the Two Plus Two Person to Person Transfer Thread. Hopefully this isn't the first post you're reading, as Two Plus Two's raison d'etre is not facilitating trades between users. This thread is a courtesy to our users who have made these forums into the thriving community it is today. Two Plus Two is not a swap meet; please don't treat it as one.

If this is the first post you're reading here, let's hope you are reading it. We know it's kind of long, but the first part is really important, and if you like your money and don't want it stolen, so is the rest. So please, take a minute and learn what you're getting yourself into.
THREE STRICT RULES FOR POSTING

There are only three main rules for posting*** in this special thread, which is modded particularly strictly:

1. Always give all relevant pokersite SNs (screen names) in every post. Otherwise, expect infractions and/or bans.**** (This includes posts confirming trades. You should post both your SNs and your trading partner's SNs. i.e. 2 users * 2 sites = 4 SNs required.)

2. You must be certain you have your PM (private message) facilities activated [** see "Note to new users" immediately below these three rules for posting in this thread] before posting. Otherwise, expect infractions and/or bans.

3. No Paypal trades are permitted. Expect infractions and/or bans if you request same.

You should also read the rest of this OP (opening post) and the continuation post before you post.


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Full and permanent disclosure of all relevant information is a condition of using this thread. If in doubt, PM a mod before posting.

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**Note to new users: If your PM facilities have not yet been activated, (they will be activated after your normal use of the forums - see https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/fa...faq_disabledpm), you may not post in this special thread. If you do, you will receive an infraction, and your post will be edited. You will also probably be temp-banned for at least one day. [Added 11/17/09]
If you click on "My 2+2" and the top drop-down option isn't "Private Messages", PMs are not activated for you, yet. [Added 2/24/10]

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If you receive an e-mail from another user responding to your request to transfer funds, it is 99%+ certain that he is a scammer. He should be using the PM system. Please report receipt of all such e-mails in the thread, preferably after you discover his supposed pokersite screen names. Thank you. [Added 120210]

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You must include your relevant pokernames when you request a transfer or respond to a transfer request. Include them with every post. Posts made without having included your names may be deleted or edited without notice and will receive an infraction, whether or not you have posted them many times before. If you wish to use this thread, you must respect the volunteer mods' wishes, as they do not have time to search your previous posts for your names. If you post in the thread, you may not remove your SNs at a later time. You may not disguise your SNs; as they must be searchable at a later date, for good references, etc.

Example posts:

Good post:
Have $100 on FTP (mynameonftp)
Want $100 on PS (mynameonps)

Bad post:
Have $100 on FTP
Want $100 on PS
I will not scam you.

Good post:
I'm interested in that trade, PM sent.
FTP (mynameonftp)
PS (mynameonps)

Bad post:
Hey trading guy, I'll do that for you.
PM sent.

Good post:
Traded my $100 on FTP to PS with UserGuy.
FTP (mynameonftp), (hisnameonftp)
PS (mynameonps), (hisnameonps)

See https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=75208

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If, for some reason, you post a different SN from one previously posted, it or your next post must include a full and truthful explanation. Otherwise, you may be banned without further notice. (For example, if you are trying to trade for your brother, Father, roomie, etc, you must state this in your request, and you must include your own SNs for the relevant sites.) People will find the discrepancies, post them, and your reputation will be worthless.

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***If you attempt to trade with someone who should not be posting in the thread, per the three rules above, you may also receive an infraction or be banned.

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****If you trade with someone who has not posted their names in the thread, you must post their names when you confirm the trade. If you don't, you may receive an infraction.

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If you send unsolicited PMs to other users, you may be banned without notice. You must only post in the thread, and users wishing to trade with you will see your request there.

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WEC's comprehensive Search Tips to help you avoid being scammed

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NB: I do not use AIM or MSN. Only PM, to prove it is me. I will not e-mail you. Scammers impersonate me and other mods and users on AIM and MSN. MH.

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NB: I maintain an "alleged scammers list" in this thread. (Latest update: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=12712)

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New. Read Markusgc's News, Tips, and Advice Post.

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List of recent alleged scams.

Also, "How not to do it!"

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Here are all successful transfers since post #50k / 09-07-2009.

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Rainbow Warrior's p2p stats thread.

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This is the only thread in this forum in which you may ask for p2p transfers. (The previous thread has been locked; but it will still be worth scan-reading the last month or so's posts if you are considering a p2p transfer.)

In fact, Twoplustwo would prefer that we didn't have such requests, but, to be realistic, they do appear in the forum from time to time, and therefore as long as they are kept in this one thread, which contains the "rules", warnings and disclaimers, most will not be locked or deleted, until further notice.

The thread is to be looked upon only as a convenience to players having funding difficulties, and profiteering or transfer-business posts which state, say, that people have "unlimited" amounts to transfer for a set vig will probably be deleted.

Transfers involving Paypal are strictly disallowed and will almost certainly be edited or deleted. (See discussion at end of previous thread for reasons. Basically, you can cancel a Paypal transaction within 60 days, and as Paypal does not want to be associated with gambling, in general, the scammers will cancel the transfer within 60 days, and the cancellation request is likely to be upheld by Paypal. Also, see https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/we...ection-outside)

All transfers are arranged entirely at the two parties' own risk. The two parties are responsible for investigating the creditworthiness and honesty of the other. My advice, among other precautions you should take, would be that you should obtain the other party's real life name, address and telephone number, in order that you have full details to give to the police if you are scammed. You should exchange full details of the proposed transfer by e-mail. You should transfer only in amounts that you are prepared to lose. Transfer in a number of small amounts if the total amount you need is more than you are prepared to risk losing. Google and Search the other person's Twoplustwo name, and their playing-names on the two pokersites involved. Ask in the thread for references, if you wish. Ask the other party to sit at a table with his bankroll in front of him. Etc, etc. It seems likely but not definite that most scammers are newer posters.

New Suggestion: Ask the prospective transferor to state in the chat of the pokersite from which he is supposed to transfer that he will transfer when he receives your transfer on the other site. This will serve as evidence that there is a deal between you.

Do not post your AIM or e-mail address in the thread. The criminals that are trying to scam you will contact you and lie that they are well-known posters here. Always make them contact you through the PM system, at least very early in your negotiations. Posts including AIM addresses will probably be deleted, and continued disregard of this rule will incur infractions and, if necessary, loss of Transfer Thread Privileges. If you do not have PM facilities, (which are only activated after normal use of the forums, for the purpose of hindering spammers), you must arrange transfers in open view within the thread, and by chatting on tables at both pokersites.

The thieves will edit copies of e-mails they say they have received from the pokersites. Perhaps better are screenshots if you are basing your actions on their content; but even screenshots can be faked.

If you are scammed, inform and warn others via a post in this thread, as soon as possible. Here is Markusgc's suggested guideline of actions. Give the pokersites full details as soon as possible. It is highly likely that they won't be able to take any action to save your money, (as they only have your word against his that he didn't keep his part of the deal - but see New Suggestion above), but at least they should note the alleged scam and possibly disallow future transfers to his account in an attempt to protect other customers of theirs.

You must accept that Twoplustwo will take little or no action against alleged scammers, (again, they have no proof that the alleged scam has actually occurred), including possibly not even banning them, so you should not think that just because someone still has an active account in the forums they are not as likely to scam you as any other anonymous stranger on the internet. If you are scammed, you must not post personal details of the alleged scammer in the forums.

You must include your relevant pokernames when you request a transfer. You should include them with every post requesting a transfer. Posts made without having included your names may be deleted or edited without notice and may receive an infraction, whether or not you included them with earlier requests. (This is so that mods don't have to search to see if you have posted your pokernames with earlier requests.) [added 2/26/09] [Amended 040509]

NO ONE SHOULD EVER SEND MONEY BEFORE AN AGREEMENT IS SET BETWEEN BOTH USERS. Offenders may be banned without notice. [Added 062609]

Be careful.

"Let the buyer beware."

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If you see a lot of red or yellow infraction icons ( )when searching posts of a potential trade partner, that's NOT a good sign.

Edit/MH: Here is a copy of an excellent advice post made by Suited76 on the 12th September:

I don't have a lot of posts here because I don't think many of you could benefit from my shoddy poker advice. I am, however, a 35 year old detail-oriented OCD patient so I'm going to offer some lengthy advice on trading.

Some of this is posted in the OP but I think it's worth saying again. I'm a little worried about the attempt to basically come up with some formula that says if posts=Y + past trading history=X then trade away. I think people get a little lost because poker funds sometime seem like fake E-money, but people are sending hundreds\thousands of dollars to strangers. Some common sense is in order.

Do pay attention to registration date and post counts. These are important but they aren't the end all. Several scammers have run their post counts up very quickly.

Ask the trader to sit at a table with his bankroll. I don't think it's out of order to ask to see all of it. Even if you are just trading $100, if you see the person sit down with $2000 then you should feel a lot safer.

If the person is a tournament player then ask for their screen names in advance. Check them on officialpokerrankings.com, thepokerdb.com, or sharkscope.com (if they are a sng player). Don't send $1000 to some guy who is an unprofitable $5 tournament player. If you see that the guy makes $2000 a month then he's probably not looking to scam you for $100.

Search for the person’s screen name in this thread. See what people have said about him. Check for the amounts, who sent first, and where the money was coming/going. Be very careful about sending large amounts to some guy who has only sent first in his previous swaps.

Don’t be afraid to ask for personal information. You don’t have to get their SS#, but ask for their full name or maybe get them to send an email from their work account if they have one.

Don’t rely on people soliciting you from an IM. Make them send you a PM so you can verify that you are dealing with the actual 2+2er.

Don’t depend on screen shots or anything that’s been copied/pasted/forwarded into an email/IM. Screen shots of someone’s account balance can be easily altered. Just because you’ve seen a transfer email pasted somewhere, that is by no means conclusive proof that your money is on its way.

Trade in increments if you feel that’s necessary. Only send large amounts if you feel VERY comfortable with your trading partner. The less you know about him, the smaller the increments should be.

Hopefully these are helpful, but it just comes down to doing your research. You don’t have to do all of them, but the more of this information you can put together the safer your money will be. If you find someone being an ass about giving you information then find someone else to trade with.

IIRC, a few weeks ago I saw guy A (new reg date/low post count) posting that he needed money moved from Stars to FT. A little later guy B posts the same thing needing FT money in exchange for Stars. Later, guy A posts that he can help out guy B HOURS AFTER SAYING THAT HE NEEDED FULL TILT MONEY. I thought to myself that I hope guy B isn’t falling for that only to log on a few hours later to see guy B posting how he’s been scammed.

Decide what you are comfortable with and do the appropriate amount of research. If you don’t find an acceptable trading partner then bite the bullet and seek out one of our well-known traders who will help you for a fee. I’d prefer that our trades benefit both parties and foster a better community, but paying the vig is a LOT better than getting your money stolen.

Lastly, after you make a successful trade please come back to the forums and make a post letting folks know. I also think it’s a good idea to put complete information in the post. Who sent first, how much was sent, in what increments, and on what sites. This will help all of us make safer decisions in the future.

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032108 - pmarrsouth:

I would recommend NO trading with anyone who opened an account on FTP/PS within the last month. A lot of people looking for trades from these accounts are depositing with FAKE credit cards, and so they send to you on Site A, then you send them legit funds on a Site B, and then you get screwed in a few days on Site A, for receiving legit funds from a charged back Credit Card.

You can tell (usually) that an account is new by checking them out on www.pokertableratings.com / www.officialpokerrankings.com / www.thepokerdb.com / www.sharkscope.com , and also plug it into google. If no/little results come up then you will know that the account is usually brand new, and therefore (even if they send first) that you should not trade with them.

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Edit/MH: Added 043008:

I've heard that some of the people that have been scammed recently have simply accepted that they have lost their money, and done nothing more about it, thinking that the pokersites can't help them get their money back, so why bother?

Although, admittedly, there is only a very slim chance that you will get your money back, you should still tell the sites that you have been scammed and ask them to put a note on the scammer's account that you have reported them as being a scammer. Also ask them to consider preventing automatic transfers into the alleged scammer's account from other players, to try to prevent others being scammed in the future. Many of the scammers' accounts are new, and they try to scam as many people as they can in a short period of time, before their account becomes known or is closed.

You should probably provide Support with chat logs, e-mail copies, and screenshots to prove your side of the story. (Stars has a dedicated e-mail address of security@pokerstars.com for the like of reporting scams.)

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Advice about delayed transfers, by Nofx Fan: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=57894

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General reminders by WEC: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=59833 and Nofx Fan: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=59868

Also: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=78591

Supreme common sense advice from a respected trader:
Quote:
Originally Posted by nimbus View Post
Best to avoid any trade if the trader doesn't seem legit.
Tips on searching by D.S.

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Basically, if we can make it as difficult as possible for these lowlife thieves to steal from others, it makes it a safer environment for us to effect our honest and helpful p2p transfers.

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***NEWSFLASH***

Alleged scammer taken to Court!

"On Oct 6th he was sentenced to 3 years in prison followed by 5 years of extended supervision.
During extended supervision:
-not able to possess a computer or the internet without approval
-obtain and maintain full time employment
-pay restitution of ~17k
-comply with all counseling deemed necessary"

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Last edited by Mike Haven; 05-23-2012 at 02:27 PM.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:30 PM   #3
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Re: Person to person transfers.

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Looking for 100 on PS...can pay through paypal or bodog transfer, but would prefer paypal. Either you send first or if you are reputable I will. Will pay 110 overall. Aim is SteveM0730.
Did you even read MH's opening post?

Quote:
Transfers involving Paypal will be deleted.
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Old 06-24-2007, 01:44 PM   #4
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Re: Person to person transfers.

Every time someone alleges they are scammed I will copy-paste this post and add the new alleged scammer's name. So far, we have alleged scammers:

ace_acehigh on UB

alan227 on Stars

annathedonk on Stars

floppynuts92 = pkrblog = joshman on Stars [Note: See Note against pkrblog]

HateToFold33 on FTP

JamesBond_AA on Prima, Stars and FTP

joshman on Stars [Note: See Note against pkrblog.]

limitninja = limitninja on Stars and FTP = limitninja15 on Absolute

Low_Card2

pkrblog = floppynuts92 = joshman on Stars [Note: As you will find from your research before deciding to transfer with a stranger on the internet, there are numerous critical posts about pkrblog but no one has alleged that they have actually been scammed by him.]

p0kerpl4yer2007 on FTP

pokerplayer4352 on FTP

pushdonkey on Absolute

Randy Hickey on Stars

Rick305

Sk00l4m3nts

strongbad311 on Stars

Thebigyak

TiltHappens on UB

Vegas_VIP = JamesBond_AA on Prima, Stars and FTP

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In this post pkrblog [see above] told us to be wary of poster
(_8-(l) DOH! who plays as wsucoug2010 on FTP and Stars, even though no scam was alleged.

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(Please pm me with the playing names of alleged scammers, so that I can add them to the record. Thanks.)

Please read all earlier warnings. Either we ban all mentions of transfers, period, or you must accept that they are entirely at your own risk; people are trying to scam you; you should obtain real life details, (name, address, phone number), about people in order to inform the police if you are scammed; exchange full details of the proposed transfer by e-mail; you should only transfer in amounts you are prepared to lose; google and Search the other person's name; ask here for references; it seems likely but not definite that most scammers are newer posters; if the other guy won't transfer first, transfer in a number of small amounts; ask the other guy to sit at a table with his bankroll in front of him; etc; etc.

If you are in any doubt, or unwilling to risk losing the amount of money involved, don't offer to transfer first. Realise that you are likely to be scammed if you do.

"Let the buyer beware."

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Old 06-24-2007, 01:56 PM   #5
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Either you send first or if you are reputable I will. Will pay 110 overall. Aim is SteveM0730.
Bodog doesn't allow transfers unless it happened in the last few days.
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Old 06-24-2007, 02:35 PM   #6
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You can transfer on Bodog if you call them and have a good history there.
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:17 PM   #7
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Can someone confirm this? I've heard it alleged many times, and have yet to hear anyone attest that they have done this successfully.
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:36 PM   #8
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I transferred $200 to a friend, both parties really need a good history there and I was told not to make it common practice. This was the weekend Neteller went down for Americans/
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:51 PM   #9
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Just want to get 20 that I have on PokerStars to Full Tilt. PM plz.
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Old 06-24-2007, 04:10 PM   #10
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Looking to get $1700 from FT to Stars. Will pay vig - established posters with references only please.
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Old 06-24-2007, 07:50 PM   #11
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Is it acceptable to post you've had a successful transfer transfer with someone?
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:00 PM   #12
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I have a circuit city e gift certificate that has $57 left on it. Anybody willing to trade for some cash on pstars? I'll give you the info and you can verify it first, before you send. PM me. Thanks
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:16 PM   #13
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Yes; please do.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:27 AM   #14
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Need stars now up to $300.00 Can give in tilt or absolute. Must send first can provide refs.
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:02 AM   #15
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Traded $20 with squashington. Very quick, no problems.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:23 AM   #16
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First post here (I lurk a bit, but really just posting because I need to transfer), I'm looking to move $100 on UB to Stars. Will pay 10%. Established posters only with recommendations. PM me please.
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:40 AM   #17
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hey, I have $5000 in paypal and I'm looking to get money on pokerstars. I will transfer first of course because of my low post counts and pay 4% or w/e thats np. Established posters only though please. Thank you.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:07 PM   #18
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hey, I have $5000 in paypal and I'm looking to get money on pokerstars. I will transfer first of course because of my low post counts and pay 4% or w/e thats np. Established posters only though please. Thank you.
Got a few messages, but im looking for $5000 straight up I will send first no issue about that and pay a 5% fee.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:14 PM   #19
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At least people are listening to the no paypal rule nicely. Tony I will trade with you if you send your 5k first and let me wait 6 weeks until it clears into my bank.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:24 PM   #20
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There isnt a no paypal rule?...And yes I will send the 5k first as I stated, once the money is sent in paypal its yours and its sent. Do you have aim pm me.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:26 PM   #21
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:31 PM   #22
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um i said I would transfer first did I not? That means you get $5000 in your account before you even have to send me anything...
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:35 PM   #23
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Dont know why there is any need to dump if I said I will transfer all the money first and when it is in your account you can send me the $5000 on stars...

But anyways lol yea I have 5000 in paypal looking for money on stars. I will send first, and pay 5 or even 7% no problem. Pm me.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:38 PM   #24
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First post in this thread.
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Transfers involving Paypal will be deleted.


Paypal has been deemed too risky.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:42 PM   #25
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how so? You get the money right away once its in your account you have it :S.
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