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Old 12-19-2015, 06:18 PM   #1
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People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

EVERY Pokerstars spin and go within 30 seconds has 2 viewers appear and stay for the duration of the match from .50-100$. I want an explanation from management why. There is consistently up to 5 viewers for every 2X game and i have played thousands. I have not had ONE game without a viewer. If security is this poor that this is indeed datamining than this should be shared with shareholders that games offered on there investment are NOT being properly policed.
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:47 PM   #2
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Spins are a conspiracy. I'm about 100% sure poker stars is behind this kids toy spin'yos which is remarkably similar to spin n gos. Clearly a joint venture with fisher price .... Getting them hooked early. No shame poker stars.... No shame.... Smh
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:50 PM   #3
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Hah I used to notice this every spin I used to play, conspiracy theories are out
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:52 PM   #4
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Interesting
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:06 PM   #5
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

http://www.pokerforums.org/general-p...datamined.html

First search on Google

They are deffo data mined pretty sure there are also lists floating around similar to Russian ptr for cash games but for spins.

Stars are a joke with security these days, seating scripts, plo bots, multi accounting, dataming etc

It's ok though they are looking after the economy.....
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:07 PM   #6
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

Funny you mention this.

I actually sent Stars an email about this one month ago and they never got back to me. I have wondered this myself over and over again. I turned search off and looked if my opponents had it turned off as well, and I kept having viewers every time after 2-3 hands. At first I thought it were backers who kept tracking their horses or something. In the end I just an email about how it is possible to track a game or players when all have their searched turned of?

I did notice some difference at the micro's where there were sometimes no viewers or they came after few more hands.
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:15 PM   #7
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

game tracking software make games anonymous problem solved
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:36 PM   #8
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It's Dnegs looking out for the players.
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:47 PM   #9
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

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game tracking software make games anonymous problem solved
Never thought of datamining, but makes sense. How does it work? in order to see a viewer, there must be an account behind this that is opening the table? How can this be difficult for Stars to prevent?
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:51 PM   #10
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

While I appreciate the time you took to construct this possibility, the time for players to take responsibility for answering and policing Pokerstars games should be OVER. I want a manager, and I doubt Keith will suffice, to take responsibility to this question and answer it. For me and ALL the past, current and future players who are risking money to play what is clearly not a fair playing field.

Pokerstars. Explanation?
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Old 12-19-2015, 07:55 PM   #11
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make games anonymous problem solved
Or just allow sn changes.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:11 PM   #12
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:20 PM   #13
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

Name changes should be allowed. Of course, that still disadvantages the true fun players that have no idea that there is such a thing as datamining, HUDs, etc. so they don't bother to change them.

Anonymous is probably the way to go while still allowing you to keep an image up if you want, but what would become of the Russian economy now that oil prices have collapsed if poker winnings and withdrawals were also curtailed by such measures?
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:30 PM   #14
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

How do you see who is viewing?
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:42 PM   #15
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:42 PM   #16
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I want an explanation from management why.
Let us know when they reply to your email.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:51 PM   #17
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Let us know when they reply to your email.
haha he will get a reply to that email when stars starts giving a **** about something more than money...so approximately when pigs fly. Seriously though, its obviously users data mining info and stars obviously knows about it because people have brought up this issue in the past many times, with nothing changing. So its either stars themselves behind it or they sold the right to some company to mine data. Take your pick but I assure you its one of the two.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:55 PM   #18
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Seriously though, its obviously users data mining info and stars obviously knows about it because people have brought up this issue in the past many times, with nothing changing. So its either stars themselves behind it or they sold the right to some company to mine data. Take your pick but I assure you its one of the two.
Bolded is obviously correct, but I'll take option C for the explanation: Stars security know it's happening and they DGAF.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:59 PM   #19
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:01 PM   #20
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

It is datamining 500%. Pokerstars HAS acknowledged this indirectly with a boilerplate response regarding datamining as a whole. Responses regarding this have been given 9 months ago. The situation has NOT improved, byt has gotten WORSE. I want to know why when Pokerstars management has boilerplate responses claiming they arte working hard to stop bla bla bla. It's obviously a serious problem that Pokerstars are unable to stop. I want to know WHY this has gone on for so long and is getting worse and I want an official statement by a manager that specifically that is why there are viewers in the spin and go. This is unacceptable for a publicly traded enterprise. Players are gathering info IN THE OPEN VISIBLY for over a year now and these " don't worry we got it" bs responses don't cut it anymore.

Why has datamining gotten worse on visibly seen spin and goes Pokerstars? Players AND shareholders want to know
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:22 PM   #21
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Last edited by R*R; 12-19-2015 at 09:30 PM. Reason: I'm viewing here not playing (:
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:24 PM   #22
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What was funny is after I busted the guy on the right the viewing went to 4...then 5 then 6....why for a $7 game??
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:49 PM   #23
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

I emailed them months ago about this. They replied that they were 'looking into it'.

Clearly it had made no difference.

There is no issue with them just making Spin & Gos anonymous, even if they prefer to keep every other game showing screen names.
It would be a simple change to make, but they don't care.

No wonder I've quit online poker.
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Old 12-19-2015, 10:05 PM   #24
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It's Dnegs looking out for the players.

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#CouldHaveDoneMore

both solid.

p.s. **** sht&Go. The true end of online poker begins with these things you heard it first. Few years and we`re done.
Too bad that by then amayas executives will have their pockets full before ruining online poker.
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Old 12-19-2015, 10:16 PM   #25
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Re: People watching Pokerstars Spin and Go. Answer demanded from Management

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There is no issue with them just making Spin & Gos anonymous, even if they prefer to keep every other game showing screen names.
It would be a simple change to make, but they don't care.

THIS!!!


Honestly, I have a more enjoyable experience playing on Bovada. Anonymous tables is the way to go, imo. Its just more relaxing and opens up the action a bit more
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