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Old 11-10-2017, 10:31 AM   #7526
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Re: Person to person transfers [First post is "MUST READ" for Posting Rules; or receive points]

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just got scammed by user " Shamaniski "

he has successfully traded in the past and we agreed to do two trades in $50 increments.

sent $50 to his acr (SF2010) expecting $50 btc

then receive this message ~5 mins later





Edit/MH: "Hey man I received the $50. I tried to double it up real fast on a hand of blackjack but lost I got 14 dealer showing a 5 so I stand and they had a 4 underneath and hit a 6 for 19. **** I was just trying to double it up then could cashout and send u the 50 real quick. Sorry man Ill send u the $50 as soon as I can it might but up to like 13 more days cause I get some more money then. So I can't do the other $50. Im sorry I have gambling problems man but Ill send u the $50 BTC when I can I promise. Unless u Think I can win 2 hands in a row on Blackjack or Baccarat dont send the other $50."
I guess he also tried to freeroll off me yesterday too.

Shamaniski: "I can do this if you have bitcoin? Wont send first cause been screwed one to many times but can do half increments with you $250 Bitcoin then ACR and then $250 again."
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:54 PM   #7527
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just got scammed by user " Shamaniski "

he has successfully traded in the past and we agreed to do two trades in $50 increments.

sent $50 to his acr (SF2010) expecting $50 btc

then receive this message ~5 mins later





Edit/MH: "Hey man I received the $50. I tried to double it up real fast on a hand of blackjack but lost I got 14 dealer showing a 5 so I stand and they had a 4 underneath and hit a 6 for 19. **** I was just trying to double it up then could cashout and send u the 50 real quick. Sorry man Ill send u the $50 as soon as I can it might but up to like 13 more days cause I get some more money then. So I can't do the other $50. Im sorry I have gambling problems man but Ill send u the $50 BTC when I can I promise. Unless u Think I can win 2 hands in a row on Blackjack or Baccarat dont send the other $50."
Unlucky mate. To the scammer get some professional help asap
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Old 11-13-2017, 10:35 AM   #7528
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Re: P2P transfers: CHAT thread : No trading ITT

Wow that is classic, I hope he pays you back, back in the day I was like that also and did this twice here but I did manage to pay everyone back.
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Old 11-23-2017, 06:18 AM   #7529
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**Scam warning**

Myself and another user were scammed via cold PM in this thread.

I gave my skype to several people and one I ended up trading with accepted my WPN for stars, with him sending first. As he was sending first I naively assumed that it was no big deal. He sent me stars from several accounts telling me that it was his horses sending the money. I then sent him all the received money on WPN (black chip).

8 days ago stars froze my account and asked me to explain several, but not all of the transfers. I told them everything and included transfers done via this skype contact that they hadn't included. They reversed $650 worth of trades due to a negative balance (credit card charge back) from the accounts that sent to me. I had, of course, sent the money on WPN.

This is where it gets interesting. I had compiled a list of the accounts that I received from (and assumed were horses of this guy) and noticed one posted here yesterday. It's actually The post above: 2p2: sebeks49. Stars: Sebsssx

As soon as I saw that post I immediately PM'd him and he got back to me straight away and added me on skype. We figured out what happened.

Seb posted asking for a trade of his stars for party. The scammer had fraudulent funds on party and sent to him first. Once seb had received the money the scammer told him that he had several horses he needed to send money to, and asked him to send to several stars accounts (one of them was mine).

He used this method to channel money from Party - Stars - WPN (then presumably to bitcoin). In this way he essentially laundered the money through us and we didn't realise what had happened.

Seb had his account locked on Party as the funds he received were fraudulent, however he thankfully managed to get them back and his account re-opened after 1.5 months of speaking with their support.

I didn't get off quite as easily, some of the accounts he sent from have likely been funded by stolen credit cards (stars confirmed via e-mail that there were charge backs on these accounts leaving them in negative balance and took the shortfall from my account because I received it). So he has not exclusively deposited to Party via fraudulent means.

What this guy has done is quite clever, because he didn't even use his own stars account. However I was personally quite foolish in accepting trades from multiple accounts from one skype contact.

I believe the 2p2 account that messaged me was 'milos' and the skype that then added to me was 'Le_James' (location: Singapore)

I would like to highlight to everyone that if someone ever tries to send you money from several accounts the chance that these funds are compromised are much more likely. I have had > 1,000 people send me money on stars and this is the first time I got scammed, but it is a real risk.

Further, do not do any transactions with anyone that has not posted in this thread with their screen names etc as per the rules in the OP. I was doing a large amount of trades and overlooked this, that is on me and was foolish. I also should have just send back and denied the trade when he used several accounts (although playthrough on stars made this option less appealing).

sebeks49 had nothing to do with this scam, he was used as a middle man like me. I'll message him about this post and he should confirm that what I've said (at least regarding his account) is all accurate.

*

Just to add to this my username on stars and BCP is 'ab160'. If anyone else has been affected by this please get in touch with me and I will do anything I can to help you get your money back.

Additionally, if anyone has any more info on this scammer 'Le James' on skype and rog_beta on WPN let me know too, I'm in the process of gathering as much info as I can about him.

Thanks

Adam.

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Old 11-23-2017, 06:32 AM   #7530
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Re: Person to person transfers [First post is "MUST READ" for Posting Rules; or receive points]

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**Scam warning**

Myself and another user were scammed via cold PM in this thread.

I gave my skype to several people and one I ended up trading with accepted my WPN for stars, with him sending first. As he was sending first I naively assumed that it was no big deal. He sent me stars from several accounts telling me that it was his horses sending the money. I then sent him all the received money on WPN (black chip).

8 days ago stars froze my account and asked me to explain several, but not all of the transfers. I told them everything and included transfers done via this skype contact that they hadn't included. They reversed $650 worth of trades due to a negative balance (credit card charge back) from the accounts that sent to me. I had, of course, sent the money on WPN.

This is where it gets interesting. I had compiled a list of the accounts that I received from (and assumed were horses of this guy) and noticed one posted here yesterday. It's actually The post above: 2p2: sebeks49. Stars: Sebsssx

As soon as I saw that post I immediately PM'd him and he got back to me straight away and added me on skype. We figured out what happened.

Seb posted asking for a trade of his stars for party. The scammer had fraudulent funds on party and sent to him first. Once seb had received the money the scammer told him that he had several horses he needed to send money to, and asked him to send to several stars accounts (one of them was mine).

He used this method to channel money from Party - Stars - WPN (then presumably to bitcoin). In this way he essentially laundered the money through us and we didn't realise what had happened.

Seb had his account locked on Party as the funds he received were fraudulent, however he thankfully managed to get them back and his account re-opened after 1.5 months of speaking with their support.

I didn't get off quite as easily, some of the accounts he sent from have likely been funded by stolen credit cards (stars confirmed via e-mail that there were charge backs on these accounts leaving them in negative balance and took the shortfall from my account because I received it). So he has not exclusively deposited to Party via fraudulent means.

What this guy has done is quite clever, because he didn't even use his own stars account. However I was personally quite foolish in accepting trades from multiple accounts from one skype contact.

I believe the 2p2 account that messaged me was 'milos' and the skype that then added to me was 'Le James' (location: Singapore)

I would like to highlight to everyone that if someone ever tries to send you money from several accounts the chance that these funds are compromised are much more likely. I have had > 1,000 people send me money on stars and this is the first time I got scammed, but it is a real risk.

Further, do not do any transactions with anyone that has not posted in this thread with their screen names etc as per the rules in the OP. I was doing a large amount of trades and overlooked this, that is on me and was foolish. I also should have just send back and denied the trade when he used several accounts (although playthrough on stars made this option less appealing).

sebeks49 had nothing to do with this scam, he was used as a middle man like me. I'll message him about this post and he should confirm that what I've said (at least regarding his account) is all accurate.

I confirm everything 4BetBoke said and i got scammed in same way by same user.

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Old 12-06-2017, 08:01 AM   #7531
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Re: P2P transfers: CHAT thread : No trading ITT

Instead of posting a warning for his fellow players, someone PMed me the following. I know it's not good form to post PMs received, so I've removed his username. However, adding the content for search purposes may help others in the future:

"So I know you are really busy banging on people like myself who forget to post our screen names on things but I would appreciate some help here or at least a point in the right direction..........

I have never had a trade or trader scam me until recently. I came home yesterday to a blocked Party account thanks to a recent transfer from a 2+2 post I made.......

I was approached by someone on Skype named Herve Probst stating he had seen a 2+2 post of mine. After doing some research it seemed legit. So we traded and the trade came from iettejink and I sent BOA and he sent Party. I played a couple of days and left town.

I come home yesterday to a blocked Party account questioning my transfer with him and the site stating their was an investigation into the account transfer. Today I come home to fin out Party has reversed the transfer and now I am out 1K.....

If we are going to have a site like this I feel like you all should probably speak against the scammers as much you correct the people with the simple mistakes....

We shall see?"

(I can't find iettejink or Herve Probst mentioned anywhere else on TPT so the alleged scammer may not be a user here.)
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:11 PM   #7532
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Re: P2P transfers: CHAT thread : No trading ITT

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Instead of posting a warning for his fellow players, someone PMed me the following. I know it's not good form to post PMs received, so I've removed his username. However, adding the content for search purposes may help others in the future:

"So I know you are really busy banging on people like myself who forget to post our screen names on things but I would appreciate some help here or at least a point in the right direction..........

I have never had a trade or trader scam me until recently. I came home yesterday to a blocked Party account thanks to a recent transfer from a 2+2 post I made.......

I was approached by someone on Skype named Herve Probst stating he had seen a 2+2 post of mine. After doing some research it seemed legit. So we traded and the trade came from iettejink and I sent BOA and he sent Party. I played a couple of days and left town.

I come home yesterday to a blocked Party account questioning my transfer with him and the site stating their was an investigation into the account transfer. Today I come home to fin out Party has reversed the transfer and now I am out 1K.....

If we are going to have a site like this I feel like you all should probably speak against the scammers as much you correct the people with the simple mistakes....

We shall see?"

(I can't find iettejink or Herve Probst mentioned anywhere else on TPT so the alleged scammer may not be a user here.)
I have him (Herve Probst) in my Skype contacts... we were going to trade Party for Stars a couple months back but I didn't go through with it. Let me see if I can find his 2p2 nick

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Edit/MH: "User name is banned already: mpicky"
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Have Stars 3k ""ibinike""

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Old 12-06-2017, 04:28 PM   #7533
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If we are going to have a site like this I feel like you all should probably speak against the scammers as much you correct the people with the simple mistakes....

We shall see?"
So, rather than post about it, said member figures he's going to test you as he has some bizarrely misguided idea that you are all about infracting people and don't care about outting scammers. LOL.
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:33 PM   #7534
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I have him (Herve Probst) in my Skype contacts... we were going to trade Party for Stars a couple months back but I didn't go through with it. Let me see if I can find his 2p2 nick

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Edit/MH: "User name is banned already: mpicky"
I did a trade with a Skype user of that name too around October 9 - $2k Stars for Skrill. He sent Stars first and I sent back Skrill USD - haven't had any issues. Regardless, here's the info I have on him:

"jarryace from 2+2" < looks like this account isn't banned yet.

me: "And what’s your Skrill info?"
Hervé, 7:10 PM: 24kgilded

email on his Skrill account:
fully616@yahoo.com

He pinged me a few more times about smaller transfers on other sites but I wasn't looking so haven't dealt with him since the initial trade.

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I did a trade with a Skype user of that name too around October 9 - $2k Stars for Skrill. He sent Stars first and I sent back Skrill USD - haven't had any issues. Regardless, here's the info I have on him:

"jarryace from 2+2" < looks like this account isn't banned yet.

me: "And what’s your Skrill info?"
Hervé, 7:10 PM: 24kgilded

email on his Skrill account:
fully616@yahoo.com

He pinged me a few more times about smaller transfers on other sites but I wasn't looking so haven't dealt with him since the initial trade.
Not really sure exactly what's going on with this whole situation, but seems likely that the guy I traded with is legit (v established player, the homework I did before trading with him came back clean, and our trade went smoothly), and the PM Mike got is about someone impersonating him. Hopefully we'll learn more soon, but just want to make sure I don't smear a straight shooter in the process of tracking down the scammer.

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I'm 24kgilded. I'm NOT Herve Probst.

I did though two 2k transfers my stars for his party. Had later issues with Party, as his money was called `fraudulent` by their security department. Can send proof if needed.

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Old 12-07-2017, 08:21 AM   #7535
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I'm 24kgilded. I'm NOT Herve Probst.

I did though two 2k transfers my stars for his party. Had later issues with Party, as his money was called `fraudulent` by their security department. Can send proof if needed.

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Old 12-12-2017, 05:20 AM   #7536
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just got scammed by user " Shamaniski "

he has successfully traded in the past and we agreed to do two trades in $50 increments.

sent $50 to his acr (SF2010) expecting $50 btc

then receive this message ~5 mins later





Edit/MH: "Hey man I received the $50. I tried to double it up real fast on a hand of blackjack but lost I got 14 dealer showing a 5 so I stand and they had a 4 underneath and hit a 6 for 19. **** I was just trying to double it up then could cashout and send u the 50 real quick. Sorry man Ill send u the $50 as soon as I can it might but up to like 13 more days cause I get some more money then. So I can't do the other $50. Im sorry I have gambling problems man but Ill send u the $50 BTC when I can I promise. Unless u Think I can win 2 hands in a row on Blackjack or Baccarat dont send the other $50."
I am still gonna pay this I haven't forgot and I will send you the extra $15 cause its taking a long time. I should be receiving money around the 27th of December then I can send to your ACR. Wanted to let you know. You can reban me until I send it now or permanent whatever it is mods.
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Old 12-25-2017, 08:33 PM   #7537
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Have: up to $4k BTC
Want: Stars (Vex Leidhus) +1%

Will send first if you have more trades than me / or very reputable member.
we agreed on trading 1k this way. he received on stars (dolmren) to (Vex Leidhus) and confirmed this.


then he disappeared and just came back with nonsense messages and went on/off again. just a brief warning to everyone, more in the feedbackthread. hopefully this is just a technical issue.
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Old 12-26-2017, 11:14 AM   #7538
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here is what happened. 2p2 user "DavaiNikolai" had around 40-50 posts, and I saw him regularly post over the last two weeks. I fell for him and thought he was trustful. below is the full skyoe transcript with skype user "kjellsen0r", screenname "eppo".

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[25.12.2017 23:11:38] eppo: Hello! Its Davai from 2+2
[25.12.2017 23:11:43] eppo: Regarding BTC.
[25.12.2017 23:12:03] *** eppo wants to add you on Skype ***
[25.12.2017 23:12:21] dolmren: hi
[25.12.2017 23:12:32] eppo: I can do $1k min its possible, yes.
[25.12.2017 23:12:48] dolmren: who is it?
[25.12.2017 23:12:59] eppo: I am "DavaiNikolai"
[25.12.2017 23:13:06] eppo: want me to reply to ur PM to verify?
[25.12.2017 23:13:32] dolmren: no ist ok
[25.12.2017 23:13:59] dolmren: lets do 1k $
[25.12.2017 23:14:12] eppo: Then kurs is locked at 23:14
[25.12.2017 23:14:19] eppo: Is fine by u?
[25.12.2017 23:14:41] dolmren: yup
[25.12.2017 23:14:48] dolmren: where do you get kurs?
[25.12.2017 23:14:55] eppo: coindesk
[25.12.2017 23:15:37] dolmren: fine
[25.12.2017 23:15:38] dolmren: locked
[25.12.2017 23:16:01] eppo: Confirmed.
[25.12.2017 23:16:26] dolmren: I send 1010 on stars?
[25.12.2017 23:16:37] eppo: So feel free to check my trade history in the thread have done 5-6k$ confirmed trades the last week alone. My ps name is: Vex Leidhus
[25.12.2017 23:16:41] eppo: Muppet and (Norway)
[25.12.2017 23:17:32] dolmren: sent stars
[25.12.2017 23:17:46] eppo: Ok - lets wait until it hits. What is your btc-adress
[25.12.2017 23:18:16] dolmren: sec
[25.12.2017 23:18:34] eppo: You would like priority or regular?
[25.12.2017 23:18:51] dolmren: whats the diff in quantity?
[25.12.2017 23:19:16] eppo: well its pretty high fee for prio.. regular takes all from 1h-4h
[25.12.2017 23:19:28] eppo: sometimes less, sometimes more.. depends on the pressure at blockchain
[25.12.2017 23:19:38] dolmren: i know i know. how much is both atm?
[25.12.2017 23:19:51] eppo: sec
[25.12.2017 23:21:33] dolmren: XXXXXXXXXX (BTC adress)
[25.12.2017 23:22:02] eppo: Ok recieved the Stars. Give me a minute have to logon my other pc (i will still be on here obv)=
[25.12.2017 23:22:08] dolmren: ok
[25.12.2017 23:25:35] eppo: Its on a paperwallet im arranging it now Then i confirm when its done, and please also confirm the trade in thread after
[25.12.2017 23:25:43] dolmren: sure
[25.12.2017 23:27:49] eppo: Where are u from btw?
[25.12.2017 23:27:57] dolmren: XXXXXX
[25.12.2017 23:28:19] dolmren: we sit next to each other in plo mtts from time to time
[25.12.2017 23:28:27] eppo: really?
[25.12.2017 23:28:33] eppo: haha cool
[25.12.2017 23:40:52] dolmren: ?
[25.12.2017 23:47:39] eppo: i will write u asap
[25.12.2017 23:57:16] dolmren: if you dont answer soon I hAve to warn others
[00:12:02] eppo: hello ?
[00:13:23] dolmren: can u tell me the difference?
[00:13:35] eppo: I got only two messages from you.. And skype didnt deliver the msgs.. Difference between what?
[00:13:54] dolmren: priority and regular
[00:13:55] eppo: It goes thru faster
[00:14:02] dolmren: dont worrry
[00:14:12] dolmren: in quantity
[00:14:15] dolmren: how MUCH
[00:14:28] dolmren:
[00:14:34] eppo: haha sorry im slow today.. too much red wine at dinner
[00:14:35] eppo: sec ag
[00:14:39] eppo: im sorting it now dont worry =)
[00:16:01] eppo: reg 148 pri 428
[00:17:29] dolmren: can you moderate fee?
[00:17:31] dolmren: custom
[00:18:21] eppo: Sure just tell me what u wnat
[00:18:23] eppo: want*
[00:19:09] dolmren: 50
[00:19:21] eppo: Ok
[00:20:37] eppo: it iwll be done w 30 min all
[00:20:56] dolmren: ok
[00:33:25] dolmren: still nothing pending
[00:33:28] dolmren: what are you doing?
[00:37:04] dolmren: i give you the 15min more minutes, if not pending then I give you 10 min to send back stars or I Need to post public
[00:37:28] dolmren: I understad if you had a Little bit of wine, but this is not how swaps supposed to work.
[01:30:27] dolmren: ??
[01:33:51] dolmren: posted on twoplustwo a warning about you
[01:34:04] dolmren: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...stcount=161344
[01:36:59] dolmren: ??
[02:28:22] dolmren: ??
I then realized it's highly possible I got scammed. I contacted stars and stayed awake for a couple hours, finally as an exception the transferred the 1010$ back to my stars (dolmren).

Mike Haven then told me via PM about his suspicions and other nicks that most likely are related to this incident.

I havent heard back from eppo/Davai/Lex since.

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Searching finds:

Posted as DavaiNikolai:
888 (DavaiNikolai)
Party (DonMolly)
Stars (Vex Leidhus)

Posted as karlgjerde83:
Party (Wonky61)
Stars (DavaiNikolai)
stars (gsamoyy)
888Poker (karlgjerde83)
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Old 12-26-2017, 10:59 PM   #7539
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Re: P2P transfers: CHAT thread : No trading ITT

my stars account has been frozen about this. I am asked to contact him and "resolve" the situation.

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Hello xxx,

Greetings from Stars Security.

We are writing you in regards to a complaint received from the player 'Vex Leidhus' who stated the 1,010.00 USD transfer was not a mistake but a real deal made.

Your account has been momentarily blocked and you will require to get in touch with the player in question and resolve the situation.


Regards,

xxx
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@Mike: can he be temporarily be unblocked to resolve the situation with me? apparently he is not able to use skype at all, or he still tries to scam me by involving pokerstars.

having my acc frozen atm is a big issue for me
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:07 AM   #7540
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my stars account has been frozen about this. I am asked to contact him and "resolve" the situation.

@Mike: can he be temporarily be unblocked to resolve the situation with me? apparently he is not able to use skype at all, or he still tries to scam me by involving pokerstars.

having my acc frozen atm is a big issue for me
I'm sorry to hear that. Have you given PS Security the full details of why you decided you did not wish to try to trade with Vex Leidhus/ DavaiNikolai? As it stands, assuming your posts above are accurate, neither of you is at any financial loss, so perhaps PS would accept that it is unreasonable to continue to freeze your account?
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Old 12-27-2017, 02:44 AM   #7541
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I'm sorry to hear that. Have you given PS Security the full details of why you decided you did not wish to try to trade with Vex Leidhus/ DavaiNikolai? As it stands, assuming your posts above are accurate, neither of you is at any financial loss, so perhaps PS would accept that it is unreasonable to continue to freeze your account?
I handed PS full info (skype log, my thoughts along, my posts and PMs regarding this on 2p2) and a link to the tradind thread.

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Thank you for your email.

We truly appreciate the information provided. This is enough for us and the investigation and your account has been fully reinstated.

Please remember you were pretty lucky on this situation and funds could be recovered. As it’s stated in our Terms of Service:

“Users are reminded that it is their responsibility to ensure they know who the other Users are before entering into these arrangements. Limits on transfers will be set by Rational Group per User.”

Besides offering our sincerest sympathy, we can only advise that you exercise greater caution when transferring funds to players in the future.

Thank you for your understanding, and please let us know if you have any further enquiries.
I was indeed lucky. This outcome shows that this particular scammer even contacted stars after it was reinstated and claimed that me, the scammed one, is the scammer himself.

Poor poker world, lucky me. Thanks for the help and everything Mike!
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:00 AM   #7542
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I was indeed lucky.

Poor poker world, lucky me.
Lucky?! Let me know when you play BJ and I'll Bet Behind, fo sho!
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Old 12-31-2017, 01:01 AM   #7543
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whats the best way to communicate with others when doing transfers re security? as skype gets a bit of a bad wrap. noob question ye.
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Old 12-31-2017, 06:16 AM   #7544
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whats the best way to communicate with others when doing transfers re security? as skype gets a bit of a bad wrap. noob question ye.
Once you have confirmed identity by PM here and access to the relevant funds with a quick few words at the relevant poker table/s, Skype is fine, imo.
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When you say identity do you mean my name or pokersite name, is pokersite name enough?
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When you say identity do you mean my name or pokersite name, is pokersite name enough?
By pokersite screen name (SN), I mean your potential trading partner's SN, and that should be enough unless you are ultra-cautious.

Once you receive the other party's PM, you can check his posts and see if others have traded successfully with him in the past; you can check if he or others have provided his SN in the past; you can check how long he has been a user here; you can check the types and regularity of posts he has made here; you can search for his SN here and on Google to see if posts have been made about him.

When you try to chat with him on a poker table, if he says his chat has been barred, he's probably a scammer impersonating a player that doesn't chat while playing, so give him a miss. If you have no money on a poker site and can't sit to chat with him, ask him to say something specific while you are watching him on a table - perhaps, "Trading TPT a*** with M*** H****"; or, if watchers' chat is allowed, use it. Maybe $1 can be transferred to allow you to chat at a micro-stake table? (Keep a screenshot of the table chat, and copies of Skype chat, for later proof to the pokersite if something goes wrong.)

Don't take chances if you have any suspicions. Don't transfer in single amounts that you can't afford to lose - treat each trade like you would a bet.

Most, but not all, of the scammers that try to take advantage of new, naive or careless users here are fairly new users themselves, (as far as their latest account is concerned); have posted one-liner comments, often one after another, to build up a post-count to appear to be established regulars; state they need a quick trade to, say, enter a tournament; and try to persuade their marks to transfer in larger amounts than necessary for ordinary first-off deposit needs to play a few games until mutual trust is established.

Once delays creep into transferring back, which should be virtually immediate, whatever excuses are made, report the delay in the Transfers Chat thread. You can always post again if the transfer is completed, but make sure you have a contact point outside TPT as they will probably be banned here at least temporarily until the transfer is completed.

Read the Transfers Thread's opening post (OP), thoroughly. Search thoroughly. Keep thorough records of all conversations.

Good luck, and remember the phrase, "Let the buyer beware". If you are scammed, you are usually very lucky if you ever see your money again.
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I'm not sure this is correct format for posting this, but just wanted to give some credit to Austin (Dalsue214). This past week I approached him about trading some Black Chip Poker funds for Bitcoin, and we started the first of the transfers last night. We started the first with 400 and 600, and plan to continue in the next several days due to my limit on p2p. I sent first, and he sent next in a very timely manner. I would highly recommend using him as he not only was very helpful, but he also gave me what I consider great rates.

On a side note I have used Dan (depechebkn) for multiple thousands over the past year, and he is also a great trader, and very helpful even when it doesn't involve trades.

If most newish players like me they have trouble finding good reliable people to trade with so I decided to make this post as a recommendation/review for anyone this might help in the future. Thanks
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Can you do P2P transfers on Ignition?
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