Is Dwolla an acceptable alternative to Paypal?

Can Amazon gift cards be purchased and then transferred instantly?

I've seen it stated there is no thread on current rates and you should just look at recent deals but is the rough guideline that Cake/Minted can be bought for ~.7/$1 while Merge can be purchased for ~.8/$1 a safe assumption?

No Yes No

In that order

Merge seems higher than .8/1

lol Merge is definitely higher than .8:1 for almost every skin. I'll buy .8:1 all day long on most of the major skins

And Minted is higher than .7:1 for sure too...even though most regs are growing increasingly frustrated with the WU cashout delays and the confusion over possible MB cashouts for US players. The lowering of Minted's perceived value is a recent trend over the past few weeks. Rest assured that if cashout times go back to 1-2 weeks like they were 1.5-2 months ago, there will be a spike in Minted's perceived worth almost instantly.

Right now my ballpark for Minted's value is between .85 and .90. My ballpark for Merge's perceived worth is around .90 give or take a few points depending on which skin we're talking about. Cake has always been on the lower side, because of their notoriously consistent slow payouts (depending on the skin though, Intertops traditioanlly had much faster payouts than other skins). Also note there are some small Merge skins than users have reported paying in as little as 1-3 weeks, but I won't mention names here for obv reasons.

If anyone else strongly disagrees with these numbers, feel free to chime in. I'm basing my numbers on all things being equal. Obviously there are a lot of factors including size of the deal, reputation of trading partner, method of payment for said funds, etc. Because of all these variables it's very hard to put a "value" on funds from forementioned sites.

cliffs: to answer rwesty's question, if you are in the market for buying funds, you are getting a "fair price" if you are paying .8:1 on Cake, .85:1 on Minted, .9:1 on Merge.

Just read a post in another thread that states Minted Poker Visa withdrawals for NON-US players are being processed fairly quickly (within a week).

Just now, I and dUbUp24 reached an agreement that Im going to buy his 250$ Lock for 220 BoA
he sent me his Banking information and said "sent"
5 mins later, he msgs me and says he doesnt want the deal to go through
I ask him, so you didnt actually send the money?
he replies he sent
and I ask him do you want me to transfer the $$ back when I receive?
he says
"yes if you cannot send me the bofa now. i need it now"
sounds fishy

If it was me, I would await the receipt of funds, then return them to the same account from which they were sent.

He said he got scared when I told him Im going to the gym and i told him ill send when I get back b/c I heard a lot of people saying that there's a delay with merge transfer.

Well he just said he cancelled the transfer so i guess there's no problem now

I just saw this now and this was a misunderstanding between the both of us but there are no problems.

I panic'd because he said:

"K, will send when I receive.
I heard there's a delay in Merge transfer and im about to hit up the gym in like 30 mins
If I dont get before I leave, I will check when Im back and will send "

and immediately went offline.

in my post i said i'd like to get my trade done by 4pm so i thought he understood i was in a rush and not go off to the gym in the middle of a trade.

I panic'd and thought he was a scammer.

It's good that you guys posted but just a reminder for people to be most careful before they make deals, not during or after.

You shouldn't panic if you are confident you are trading with someone reputable. If you arn't comfortable with that fact, find someone you are with. There's plenty trading merge.

Hi i'm looking to deposit (receive in a transfer) $500 on RPM and was wondering what is allowed as far as buying it in the person to person transfer thread.

Can i use paypal to purchase it? What vig should i be asking for for merge? Thanks

Read the OP (opening post)in the transfer thread - No paypal is rule 3.
Read the last few pages of posts for ideas.

Also the Gift Card subforum in the Marketplace has many funding options.

Use PMs ONLY to set up trades.

If you are sending first, make sure it is with a reliable experienced trader.

Paypal is not allowed.

I recommend that you review the last month or so for both the going rates as well as popular alternatives to Paypal. If I had to guess, I would put the rate somewhere between .80 to .90

Bank wire, Amazon, Moneybookers (Skrill), and GDMP are a short list of acceptable alternatives, but a review would give you a clearer picture of the supply/demand ratio.

I strongly recommend a full reading of the first post in the thread, including all of the links. Scammers are constantly on the prowl, so following its advice is of the highest importance.

has any one traded with pro playa? Nothing personal just trying to find out if anyone has any history since i plan on sending first.

Trade was never done, JohnnyX22 Minted(badassbiz) lead me on for 5-6 days after agreeing to doing a trade and me canceling my Minted(newmoneyt) cashout only to eventually stop responding to my PMs even when clearly online at 2+2, after him changing his offer multiple times. Did NOT scam my out of any money but was very difficult to work with, unprofessional and I would not attempt to trade with again or recommend to anyone.

Hi,

I have some funds in Carbon and I am thinking about trading some of it instead of trying to cash out.

I don't have a bank account with a big national bank like BoA, WF, Chase, etc. (it is a state credit union).

Will it be easier for me to setup a new checking account to do this transfer? If so, which one is the most popular / easiest to use?

Are the Amazon gift cards a safe way to transfer? Would I just request an Amazon gift card be emailed to me?

Any other tips for how to go about this without getting scammed?

Will my lack of history on the site make it hard to set these trades up?

Thanks!

Seems like BOA is the most popular bank used on this site.

If all you're looking for is a checking account to move your money around, boa offers an e-checking account that has no minimum balance and no maintenance fees if you limit your transactions to atms & online banking only and not use their tellers. I actually opened one for this very reason and don't have any complaints.

For amazon gift cards you can email it to yourself and then just send the other person the code from the email.

Since you have no history trading and will likely be sending first, try to avoid other people with no history as well. Trade only with reputable traders. Do your research on people before trading with them by looking at past trades, amounts, looking up their poker names, etc.

How long do I wait before reporting something awry?

Last night I agreed to trade $175 GDMP for $200 RPM. I agreed to send first at trader had completely a large number of trades and the p2p transfer thread confirmed this.

After failing to send it when he thought he did, he then sent $100 and told me he was restricted from sending the rest as merge has a 4 day wait to do anything with transferred funds. I was also unaware of this rule and didn't think he'd send the $100 if he was trying to scam me for the remaining $75.

He told me on skype that he would send his RB of $50 last night and then make this right in the morning either through winnings or depositing with his CC. I said ok and have not heard from him since.

Thoughts?

cliffs: I am owed $75 more dollars after receiving $100 from trader, who didn't know he wouldn't be allowed to transfer the rest

I was told I'd get $50 last night "in about an hour" and the rest this morning which I agreed, trader lives in Miami (EST), haven't heard back from him.

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Edit/MH: Re rico316, for search purposes.

Can someone please explain how people are receiving there money when they trade? I hear people sayingthey get giftcards and what not but does the person receiving the transfer mail them one and how do people with like USbank or wells fargo end up receiving money?

PM a mod or post name right away, this sounds sketchy as hell, guy is prob a degen and a liar

I recommend reporting it the moment something goes awry.

Just report the facts in a non-accusatory way; the agreement, what is supposed to happen next, who is supposed to do it, and when it expected to occur. It's especially good if both parties make a report. You did well with your report, except naming the other party.

If it's an innocent hiccup, then you both can report when everything gets settled.

If there is shadiness going on, then everyone is alerted.

Are you still awaiting completion of that trade?

Is this the other party?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/263195/

The simple answer is you deposit in someone's bank for a bank trade. No, no mail. For gift card/pre paid cards you transfer with netspend/paypower or buy a reload pack and transfer them the number so they can load it. People send other people money all the time weather that be depositing right in a local branch of their bank, a bank wire, one of the many transferring services the banks have like chase quick pay etc.

You're best off looking at what people trade the most of or deciding what is best for you, then understanding how it works via research on it. I personally would recommend getting a large bank that is common, BoA or Chase are good ones. Messing with the pre paid cards has fees and limitations, although they are good for experienced traders as they are just further options because not everybody has BoA or chase, but most trades you'll be able to do with just the bank account.

I've heard of the 4 day clearing period or whatever it is. If he traded with someone reputable it's probably just that.

However, there's a protocol and any problem should be posted, along with the names (account/2p2/etc)... Here, from the op of the p2p thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=57894