International bank wires are not cheap. Many banks charge the receiver up to $100, I believe, which definitely adds a few % vig to any smallish deal.

fwiw, i agree. if he's running a con (which i seriously doubt) what difference would it make never mailing a check versus never sending a wire/gdmp code/netspend card 2 card/boa/wf or whatever. maybe we're both missing something.

is this guy doing international deals with checks then?

i know bank wires have fees associated with them. you can do teller deposits for free at basically any bank in the usa, however.

if a check is in the mail for a week, then gets deposited and bounces, or gets cancelled/stop-paymented a few weeks later, that gives the person (who received the online money up front?) a lot of time to move the online funds around as needed, if they so choose.

just to clarify, i don't know these people or their reputations. just pointing out some of the dangers with this method.

I agree. Checks are super risky unless the person you're dealing with is incredibly reputable.

Just saw this, I wasn't on skype with him, and was pming i had sent first, and he had sent like 15-20 min later when I had posted the initiation of the trade I didn't have his sn. So reported my post later on and added it since I couldn't edit it.

And thanks for bringing it up, I actually had the wrong on there, hunting2aces was a guy I had traded with earlier in the day for 35 dollars, his name is megatron4mvp sorry for confusion.

this, IMO I feel it is wrong to comment on the trade, at least until checking into the guys ref. and silent_one or whatever obv. has pretty good rep based on previous trades / staking selling shares.

I checked his recent posts and they had me raise some flags. Coupled with the check option( huge red flag) and I'd be very weary.

fair enough, it was just my opinion like I said in my previous post, and im sure you have more experience in this matter then me so ill shut my mouth .

BigBadBabaar has a valid point with regards to giving a scammer alot of time to move money around, while giving a fake/bouncing check. I have many references, I have also sent out endless amount of checks and my references can confirm it. If anyone has any doubt whatsoever or any feeling of discomfort then I would not recommend accepting checks as a payment. I try to make sure the people I trade with are 100% comfortable with it before we proceed.

edit: I also do express overnight mail delivery to ensure it reaches the other person ASAP. It is simply more convenient for me over bank wires, however I also do bank wires which cost both parties slightly more.

Silent_0ne is very legit, i have done many trades with him, and have nothing but good positive feedback to give. hes a reputable member here for numerous reasons. There should be no discussion regarding trust when it comes to him.

Has anyone delt with "plainestman"?
He offered me .7 for Juicy; isn't that kind of low?
Any feedback is greatly appreciated...

Are there quotes around his name? If not, PlainesTman is very reputable from what I understand, although I have never dealt with him before

edit: The reason I ask about the quotes is because there have been multiple scammers who imitate reputable traders by putting quotes around their 2p2 name.

Plainestman = reputable
"plainestman" = probable scammer

there's always a wide range of rates that people offer.

It's a marketplace, more or less. Always best, Pavel, to do plenty of homework on people and vig amounts.

If it is real plainestman, he is legit.
if you are in need of funds quickly and no one is offering you more, then it isnt low is it? If you can wait awhile, you may get more.
Plainestman is a money trader here, meaning he helps get money off of sites for those of us who can not get it off ourselves timely and for this he makes a profit. You pay slightly more vig when dealing with him for making this market.
Someone who wants Juicy because they cant deposit and wants to play there and get more for their buck with the vig, you can get slightly higher.
When I had Cake $s, if I needed fast trade, plainestman was the man I contacted. When I didnt need it quite as fast, I waited for the 5%-10% more I might make.

plainestman. have you delt with him? if yes buying or selling?

That is what I am trying to do need some help; thanks in advance

Lifesavacation scammed me for $1900. Did he promise to "pay you back someday", too? Not holding my breath...
sure would be nice though, as the SOB cost me 10k+ in opportunity cost, I had to grind a roll from scratch...
moral of the story: don't trust anyone, even people with dozens of trades?
Truth is I had a feeling he was a scumbag even though we completed several trades over the past year and a half. I couldn't quite put my finger on it but I knew something was off about his character. I guess the moral is trust your gut before sending any amount to a vig hunter (which is what he was-not a grinder, whom I prefer to deal with), even if they appear legit.

known lifesavacation scams post: (had trouble quoting for some reason)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2538

can transfers be made from Juicy to Lock (or any other Rev. skins)?

no each rev skin can only transfer with its own players

dan

Well guess I need to go bury myself back in a hole somewhere. I had just changed all my passwords on my multiple accounts online (to secure myself a little better with all the P2P trading I do) and within 2 weeks of doing it, someone charged a bunch of money for iTunes on one of my cards.

GG scammer. I'm sure it's related to my activity on this forum somehow. After this trade I have pending, might need to revisit this method of trading - or go find some better protection software. Dammit...

Are you exchanging emails with traders or skyping?
Did you hit link that someone sent you?
Was it credit/debit card that was charged? Pretty sure you can dispute
that as fraudulent charge. I had $1,000 worth of fraudelent charges on my acct back in may and had them taken off. Guy was charging in France while I am in NY bank caught it before I did.
If you conduct all discussions of trade in PMs on site and in thread, I do not seem how scammer can get your card info.

Nope - all trading discussing has been through the forums, with one exception where no personal info was exchanged (and even then, I won't do it again).

No clicking on links.

Already in contact with the appropriate company. The charge has to go through before I can make a claim (it's still pending). Seems like it won't harm me, but I'll be cancelling that card for sure, obviously.

Somehow or another it could have been some kind of keylogging software at play. Already remedied that and added some more able virus protection.

Figures I never have this problem and then as soon as I change passwords, less than two weeks and bam...lol.

Doubtful it has anything to do with trading.

^^ Hope so. Just cleansed my comp, added some much better combative software, reset all my passwords, and away we go...

I just signed up on Lock, willing to send first from bank.

Seems like the going rate is somewhere between 0.75 - 0.9 is that accurate?

Thanks,
Ben

Yeah that's pretty accurate. I usually have no problem finding trades in that rate bracket.