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11-28-2012 , 04:56 PM
With so many scams going on lately, I would assume some people aren't trading via p2p transfers. (for example at times that would have been more practical for me, but with risks choose not to)

I'm curious why no one does any kind of escrow service.

For example.

Player A has BOA and wants Lock
Player B Has Lock and wants BOA

Player A sends me BOA
Player B sends me Lock

Once I have received both,

I send Player A Lock
I send Player B BOA

I get a
small fee.

Would be profitable and i assume alot of people would pay a tiny vig for no risk trades. (except risk of middle man)

Last edited by dadude; 11-28-2012 at 04:57 PM. Reason: just realized I went way to in depth to explain an escrow service when most people would know what that means ;)
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11-28-2012 , 05:05 PM
Would be a business in of itself. Problem is Lock still has transfer limits, and I doubt they would increase them based on running a trading operation through them. Plus there would have to be something iron clad put down by the operator to prove their trustworthiness.

I'd be down for this. I run contracts through my film company so it wouldn't be anything new. I doubt too many would be interested, though. Who knows.
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11-28-2012 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ramsrunner09
Guess this is already out there since their accounts just got banned but it looks like I have been scammed by "NLHitmanU" and "MrPadawan". I sent NLHitmanU 2250$ on stars (IGotThis521) on 11/25 and was supposed to receive $2182.5 Chase QP. I have not received any money, and he stopped responding to my PM's as of today. MrPadawan was his reference and backed him up. I was supposed to send MrPadawan 2250$ on stars (Diamondique) as well but his account was not allowed to receive transfers so that was unable to be completed. I will post anymore information I come across and if I am able to get in contact with them.
he tried scamming me also MrPadawan that is. I posted about having lock funds MrPadawan instantly pm replied almost sent but i fig id give lock a few more days.
also think they posted a fake trade on forum to try to make himself look more believable. lucky for me i didnt cancel cashout and waited few more days. lucky too that lock finally paid. any way think it was about 11-17 cant rememeber exactly.

Last edited by pubhead; 11-28-2012 at 05:18 PM.
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11-28-2012 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dadude77
I'm curious why no one does any kind of escrow service.
Because of course the person in the middle is taking a lot of risk for a small reward.
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11-28-2012 , 05:26 PM
What is the person in the middle risking?
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11-28-2012 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dadude77
What is the person in the middle risking?
I did escrow for a couple of big trades a couple months back. My only fear is my account getting locked for whatever reason and I have 20k of somebody else's money. I would not want to be on the hook for that.

Les
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11-28-2012 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dadude77
I'm curious why no one does any kind of escrow service.
that does happen on occasion, but most people dont want to escrow for a variety of reasons

off the top of my head, but im sure there r other reasons:
- risk of receiving fraudulent funds and sending legitimate funds (ie. funds later get reversed and ur the one getting screwed)
- risk of getting account locked by being associated w other accounts
- play thru requirements to cashout when receiving xfers
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11-28-2012 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dadude77
What is the person in the middle risking?
Wait, what?

The same thing everyone else is when they make a trade.
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11-28-2012 , 05:39 PM
Ah ok, I'm not a big trader, think I'd traded some money on here a couple times 2-3 years back for very small amounts (prob under $50) so wasn't aware of those things up above.

I was only thinking about the fact of someone sending first and person sending 2nd doesn't send. (which would be no risk to escrow)...

guess i should do my homework before making a post. my bad!
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11-29-2012 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Insignificant
set this up earlier today, just sent Tcrowley 817 ACR he is sending lock after. Will update when it is all complete.

his acr: tcrowley11
his lock: hunting2aces

My ACR enm58
Lock: I Quit
why no infraction? was a sn missing to be added or not?
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11-29-2012 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nchow22
started trade with depeche718 my lock for his boa

transferred him 150 lock (thereasony) yesterday for 135 boa (swyatt44@aol.com) and still have not received the transfer.

BEWARE this guy is probably a scammed his email is:
swyatt44@aol.com- skype:frlux19

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Edit/MH: See http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2480
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
As you don't have PM facilities here yet, you were contacted by e-mail or Skype, and didn't ask him to prove who he was with a post here.

It is highly probable that you were contacted by a scammer and not by depechbnkn / depeche718 on Lock. You should ask Lock's Security to freeze swyatt44@aol.com's account while they investigate; although he has probably lost your money or transferred it on to someone else, by now.

This month there have been many scams where Lock funds were sent to thieves.

All victims are urged to quickly notify Lock security and 2+2 reps of the scam.

Some of them had the funds frozen since quick cash outs was never an option for the scammers.

In cases such as the above no word has been received about any retreival or dispursion of confiscated funds.

Even though Shane has been a very valuable Lock rep. on 2+2, it would be great to have ANYBODY in Lock support or security be forthcoming with info and results of these scam investigations.

This could only encourage more people to play on Merge and Lock in particular.
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11-29-2012 , 01:23 PM
Is this the place I report someone that has not paid me for a trade?
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11-29-2012 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Simps1207
Is this the place I report someone that has not paid me for a trade?
If someone has scammed you please post all relevant info ASAP so they can't scam anybody else.
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11-29-2012 , 04:10 PM
"lifesavacation" started buying Cake from me probably back in January. I traded with him several times a month. In June I started planning a trip to Vegas. He was living in Vegas at the time so I asked him a few questions about Vegas hotels etc..Since he lived in Vegas I planned on trading larger sums than I usually do so I can get cash in hand. Traded 10k with him right when I got out there and he ended up paying me a few days late but he paid me. Then the WSOP ended and I had 4k left online I wanted to trade before leaving. Send that late July and he still hasnt paid me. He was getting ahold of me about every two weeks on skype and I saw he was banned on here awhile back so I didnt bother saying anything on here til now. Its been almost two months since Ive heard from him now.



**edit (RW) - added you to the list from this JULY post**
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Originally Posted by Rainbow Warrior
lifesavacation

Cake(shakemebaby) marinmayo@hotmail.com
BCP(blackshaker)
RPM (shakemebaby)
Lock(maybebigbaby)
Carbon(thmebaby)

Skype huskyfever1 (h.stuckey)
email marinmayo@hotmail.com


known lifesavacation SCAMS
$1000
$2720
$1900
$4000

Last edited by Rainbow Warrior; 11-29-2012 at 04:39 PM.
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11-29-2012 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Simps1207
"lifesavacation" started buying Cake from me probably back in January. I traded with him several times a month. In June I started planning a trip to Vegas. He was living in Vegas at the time so I asked him a few questions about Vegas hotels etc..Since he lived in Vegas I planned on trading larger sums than I usually do so I can get cash in hand. Traded 10k with him right when I got out there and he ended up paying me a few days late but he paid me. Then the WSOP ended and I had 4k left online I wanted to trade before leaving. Send that late July and he still hasnt paid me. He was getting ahold of me about every two weeks on skype and I saw he was banned on here awhile back so I didnt bother saying anything on here til now. Its been almost two months since Ive heard from him now.
Can you please post more details so they can be logged in case he tries to create another name and scam more. His skype name, real name, the more details you're able to post the more you are helping keep scammers from scamming more people.
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11-29-2012 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fsu2010
Can you please post more details so they can be logged in case he tries to create another name and scam more. His skype name, real name, the more details you're able to post the more you are helping keep scammers from scamming more people.
His name is Mike Hibbert or Mike Higgens I believe. His skype name is h.stuckey
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11-29-2012 , 05:00 PM
its been a while since i last traded so not sure about the following protocol

are warnings posted here now instead of the main trading thread? or should be posted first in the main thread and moved here later by mods?

due to the time critical nature of preventing scams, warnings would get more exposure in the main thread

Last edited by ItsOnlyChips; 11-29-2012 at 05:05 PM.
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11-29-2012 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ItsOnlyChips
its been a while since i last traded so not sure about the following protocol

are warnings posted here now instead of the main trading thread? or should be posted first in the main thread and moved here later by mods?

due to the time critical nature of preventing scams, warnings would get more exposure in the main thread
I prefer to keep the trading thread for trading, and the chat thread for everything else.

Obviously, the searches on usernames, SNs, e-mail addresses, and Skype addresses, that everyone does before trading, will pick up the names even if they are posted elsewhere, as some scammees do.
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11-29-2012 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RoleTideRole
Just made trade with Silent_0ne. I (RoleTideRole) transferred 2k to his Lock (Silent_0ne). He has mailed me a 1.5k check. I will update when check is in hand.
UMMMMM WHAT?
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11-29-2012 , 07:08 PM
recently was scammed by an account on skype, holliholli84, "looon" and mrpadawan on 2+2 (as many others)

joeyjmr8484 on skype and 2+2 seems suspicious.

added me on skype after pming me on 2+2. i gave him wire or check option. i was offering better deal for check, he wanted the wire because of time constraint. i said sure and said we would do the deal tomorrow and then he said if he could send the lock once the check clears, i said he is sending first no matter what then he logs off skype.

could be 100% okay/legit, jsut recommend traders to have him send first.
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11-29-2012 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RoleTideRole
Just made trade with Silent_0ne. I (RoleTideRole) transferred 2k to his Lock (Silent_0ne). He has mailed me a 1.5k check. I will update when check is in hand.
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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps
UMMMMM WHAT?
+2 what on earth
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11-29-2012 , 08:17 PM
working on trade with supershaun82. He is sending $75 boa for $83 ACR beattrice.
my boa is having problems. He says money left his account but hasnt shown up in mine.
I asked him to call boa. I have parent teacher conference and have to leave.
I am just putting post on so he doesnt freak out that I have to go and his money left his account and he hasnt got transfer.
This will sort out hopefully shortly but I have to run for 2 hours.

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Edit/MH: SuperShaun80

Last edited by Mike Haven; 11-29-2012 at 08:49 PM.
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11-29-2012 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kingo
working on trade with supershaun82. He is sending $75 boa for $83 ACR beattrice.
my boa is having problems. He says money left his account but hasnt shown up in mine.
I asked him to call boa. I have parent teacher conference and have to leave.
I am just putting post on so he doesnt freak out that I have to go and his money left his account and he hasnt got transfer.
This will sort out hopefully shortly but I have to run for 2 hours.
This above info is all correct except s/n is (supershaun80), not 82. Will update soon.
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11-29-2012 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
+2 what on earth
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Originally Posted by DJ_Chaps
UMMMMM WHAT?
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Originally Posted by RoleTideRole
Just made trade with Silent_0ne. I (RoleTideRole) transferred 2k to his Lock (Silent_0ne). He has mailed me a 1.5k check. I will update when check is in hand.
I fail to see why paying with check is so weird, he even states it in his gift card thread that he can pay with checks.

If there is a problem with it why would a mod not edit his Gift card thread and not let him do it?

His gift card thread.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...-lock-1271070/

And it's not like he is a new trader without a lot of 4k figure trades, and running threads in marketplace for sharing / selling for tourneys without any hitches judging from previous posts.

Mabbe im missing something plz enlighten me.

and Fwiw I have nothing to do with silent_one, never traded with him, never spoke with him etc.
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11-29-2012 , 09:20 PM
checks are cancellable/reversible just like paypal or chase quickpay. i don't see what their utility could be for these kinds of trades. having a checking account to write the checks means that you have money in the bank, which means you could do bank wires or bank xfer or something else non-reversible/safer (and much faster as well)
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