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Old 10-03-2017, 12:07 PM   #76
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Party is not sticking around in the AUS market. I doubt any publicly traded company will.

WPN has plenty of volume for a low stakes 4 tabler.

WPN has rakeback - 27% flat rate. They also have a VIP program, but it is better for high volume players and as described, you should stick to the flat rakeback option.



Visa and other credit cards are not going to have a 100% acceptance rate in the new normal of the Aus market. You're probably going see only get a 50-60% acceptance rate across the board. Bitcoin will work 100% of the time unless it faces user error.

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Thanks for the tips. Yeah turns out I couldn't deposit because my ID hasn't been vertified yet. Now I need to jump through hoops for another couple days to get that sorted out.

Think I'll give Ignition a crack via BTC. Do you know how soft the WPN games are? Is volume reasonable enough? Is BCP on WPN network?
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:36 PM   #77
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Re: TAKE ACTION: Need urgent help to keep Australian online poker. Deadline 21 July #AusFight4P

Anyone withdraw from PS using neteller having troubles getting the money off? It won't take my bank statement and it seems they have no support staff
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:28 AM   #78
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I tried to make a cashout with NT a couple of weeks ago and it never made it to my bank, bounced back to my NT account and I had to swap with another poker player in the UK and get them to wire it to me. Haven't tried another withdraw since. NT support is horrible if you email them. The best option is to phone them, you can get answers straight away doing that.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:33 AM   #79
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Anyone withdraw from PS using neteller having troubles getting the money off? It won't take my bank statement and it seems they have no support staff
I cashed out from stars to NT prior to the change in legislation. No problems. I deposited and withdrew using NT over a number of years and had provided id and utility bill in the past.

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Old 10-05-2017, 07:57 AM   #80
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did my withdrawal via neteller this week. took me a while to get verified etc but support were fine overall. also took a few days for transfer to reach bank, but it got there.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:42 AM   #81
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Has anyone used Skrill to withdraw from stars, has anyone had any problems with them.
They take ages to reply to emails and in some cases no reply at all.

I had to phone them after no email reply in 7 days and they told me they charge 5.5 euro max and 3.99% for conversion do they charge more then Poli do?

I have left funds in stars account since our $ is down a lot.
And looking for a cheaper way to withdraw if anyone knows a better method can you pls let me know thx in advance.
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Old 10-07-2017, 09:26 AM   #82
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Has anyone used Skrill to withdraw from stars, has anyone had any problems with them.
They take ages to reply to emails and in some cases no reply at all.

I had to phone them after no email reply in 7 days and they told me they charge 5.5 euro max and 3.99% for conversion do they charge more then Poli do?

I have left funds in stars account since our $ is down a lot.
And looking for a cheaper way to withdraw if anyone knows a better method can you pls let me know thx in advance.
Withdraw to your E wallet>deposit onto acr>cashout to bitcoin, scroll back a few pages if you're not sure with how bitcoin works I wrote a post about it.
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Old 10-07-2017, 12:00 PM   #83
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Cheers.

So you have seen people have their account closed due to dealing with poker sites? Is that common?
But, assuming I go from coinjar to blockchain and then to a poker site, what is to stop my blockchain account getting closed instead?
Your Blockchain account is YOURS. No one controls it but YOU.
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:58 AM   #84
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BCP is on WPN yes. Volume is reasonable as can be found at pokerscout.com, Ignition #6 and WPN #7 in terms of traffic overall.

The games at WPN are much tougher than Ignition generally speaking. This is a result of Ignition focusing primarily on recreational players. This comes forward in their welcome bonus (that clears at a 100%(!) rate in the beginning) which is very favorable for micro and low stakes players. After the welcome bonus expires there is no such thing as a rakeback system. WPN offers a 27% flat rakeback deal for all players which is more interesting to advanced grinders and professional players obviously, but thereby increasing the average playing level.
Yeah I figured as much. The 27% is pretty sick. Some decent coin in it if you can mass table 50-100nl, although I think at that point you're better off on the VIP system so you can cash the beast?

Will wait to see if Ignition sort their **** and let me play on that site.
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:34 AM   #85
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my god, why does ignition not have player names but instead numbers, so hard to keep track on whos doing what
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:29 AM   #86
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I can't play on any of those sites because i can't stand the software and bitcoin. I've given up all online poker and its the worst thing ever .. try filling that void in. I hope when this report is released they act straight away and don't sit on it for 5 years then forget about it.
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Old 10-14-2017, 06:24 AM   #87
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I can't play on any of those sites because i can't stand the software and bitcoin. I've given up all online poker and its the worst thing ever .. try filling that void in. I hope when this report is released they act straight away and don't sit on it for 5 years then forget about it.


I'm really missing it too in the 4-5 hours a week I'd normally play. I've upped my Snowie activity but that's so boring!

There's an app that a load of the guys at Star are playing on that I might sign up for, but feels like there's too many collusion opportunities for me to feel comfortable with it
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Old 10-14-2017, 06:41 AM   #88
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my god, why does ignition not have player names but instead numbers, so hard to keep track on whos doing what
If it had player names, it wouldn't be anonymous.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:44 AM   #89
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When this thread was started I didn't think 'whinging' would end up being the default option for Australian players.

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Old 10-14-2017, 10:21 PM   #90
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When this thread was started I didn't think 'whinging' would end up being the default option for Australian players.

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Seems appropriate to me given the circumstances.
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Old 10-15-2017, 01:53 AM   #91
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Seems appropriate to me given the circumstances.
Adapt rather than complain on an internet forum.

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Old 10-15-2017, 02:49 AM   #92
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I'll whinge as much as I like, tyvm!
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:10 AM   #93
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Yeah I figured as much. The 27% is pretty sick. Some decent coin in it if you can mass table 50-100nl, although I think at that point you're better off on the VIP system so you can cash the beast?

Will wait to see if Ignition sort their **** and let me play on that site.
you can cash in the beast on the flat rakeback plan too
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:44 AM   #94
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you can cash in the beast on the flat rakeback plan too
Oh true. So for the high volume 50-200nl grinders, what's the equivalent rb% for the VIP system? Obv >27% I'm guessing?
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Old 10-15-2017, 08:30 AM   #95
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I did adapt, i just stopped playing and it was/is still damaging. Stars is the only site worth playing. These others just create more problems then they're worth, and the software is so slow i literally just uninstalled all of them a few hours after downloading it. They're illegitimate bs sites that shouldn't be promoted nor played. Hard truth.
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:00 AM   #96
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I did adapt, i just stopped playing and it was/is still damaging. Stars is the only site worth playing. These others just create more problems then they're worth, and the software is so slow i literally just uninstalled all of them a few hours after downloading it. They're illegitimate bs sites that shouldn't be promoted nor played. Hard truth.
Playing on two of those sites now w/o problem. Hard truth also. Cash out pending on one of them. Mercy!
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:44 AM   #97
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[QUOTE=goodsaint;52984350]Playing on two of those sites now w/o problem. Hard truth also. Cash out pending on one of them. Mercy![/QUOTE

That's your prerogative. But if you trust these sites with any funds at all you are careless. You might cash out problem free many times but it's inevitable a problem will happen. Them disobeying laws of a country and operating anyway should put a red flag up immediately.....each to their own.
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Old 10-16-2017, 02:29 PM   #98
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Playing on two of those sites now w/o problem. Hard truth also. Cash out pending on one of them. Mercy![/QUOTE

That's your prerogative. But if you trust these sites with any funds at all you are careless. You might cash out problem free many times but it's inevitable a problem will happen. Them disobeying laws of a country and operating anyway should put a red flag up immediately.....each to their own.
OK. So the sky is gonna fall one day. I should FEAR that- False Evidence Appearing Real. Six and one half years after Black Friday, still playing on Carbon w/o incident. Multiple cash outs up the ying yang. Good luck with the U.S. trying to go after .eg or .au domains. Life is for the living. Mercy!
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Old 10-16-2017, 04:48 PM   #99
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OK. So the sky is gonna fall one day. I should FEAR that- False Evidence Appearing Real. Six and one half years after Black Friday, still playing on Carbon w/o incident. Multiple cash outs up the ying yang. Good luck with the U.S. trying to go after .eg or .au domains. Life is for the living. Mercy!
I think you may have lost sight of what thread you're posting in. While I don't necessarily agree with all that OTG said, your own experience isn't all that translatable - Australia is a different country, with different laws.
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I think you may have lost sight of what thread you're posting in. While I don't necessarily agree with all that OTG said, your own experience isn't all that translatable - Australia is a different country, with different laws.
Point taken.
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