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Old 06-22-2011, 03:07 PM   #1
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Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

Sorry if it is a repost.

Ongame did change their rake structure lately.

On a 20.10$ pot, there was 1.34$ in rake. So my friend did write to EuroPoker, asking them why he got 6.67% rake instead of 5%.

Here is the answer:
Dear Mr. XYZ,
Thank you for sending us this information. At this moment, the system works as explained in the last email. This link is an old link and it is not updated. We have escalated this issue to our tech department in order to fix this issue and avoid future misunderstandings.
As a compensation gift, you can find a 10 USD ticket on your account.
Should you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Best Regards
Sebastian Campos



Link still say that the rake is 5%.
http://www.europoker.com/help/?categ...categoryid=107

It's kind of shady to higher the rake from 5% to 6.67% without any notice, without changing their rake structure information on the website...
Most players wont even notice the change.....
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:12 PM   #2
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

6.67% is crazy

is it for micros only like at FT?
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:20 PM   #3
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

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6.67% is crazy

is it for micros only like at FT?
I dont know if all limits are affected by this change, as the rake structure isnt updated yet.

But on that particular pot, this was a PLO game with a bigblind of 0.10$.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:56 PM   #4
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

on the bwin page it states that only NL/PL games up to $0.05/$0.10 are raked with 1 Cent per 15c in the pot.
https://help.bwin.com/general/legal/...n&index=Z#rake

no idea if this is new or up to date though
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:24 PM   #5
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

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Rake Structures

Rake Structures

The EuroPoker rake structure is fair and easy to understand.

Key features:

The rake percentage of the pot size never exceeds 5%

The maximum rake (rake cap) never exceeds $3.

The heads-up rake cap is equal to $1.

No rake is charged when the flop is not seen (�no flop no drop�).

Rake Structure

Fixed Limit Rake

Lower than $0.50/1.00 Rake = $0.05 per $1.00 Maximum rake: $0.50

$0.50/$1.00 to $2.00/$4.00 Rake = $0.05 per $1.00

Higher than $2.00/4.00 Rake = $0.25 per $5.00

Pot/No Limit Rake

$0.25/$0.5 or lower Rake = $0.05 per $1.00

Higher than $0.25/$0.5 Rake = $0.05 per $1.00

Max Rake

Maximum rake rules for all game types are (if nothing else is stated):

2 players $1.00 max rake

3-4 players $2.00 max rake

5+ players $3.00 max rake

Note: No rake is charged if there is no flop (�no flop no drop�)
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OMAHA_HI, POT_LIMIT, R5-153229923-517
played at "Fukuoka" for USD RM from 2011-06-21 16:37 until 2011-06-21 16:38



Seat 3: Lemmy Ruoste ($9.68 in chips)
Seat 6: Andy_158 ($11.26 in chips)
Seat 8: zero_day ($10 in chips)
Seat 9: shuhai ($9.86 in chips)
Seat 10: scaredmenow ($14.79 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
PLAYER_RELEASE
, shuhai posts small blind ($0.10), scaredmenow posts big blind ($0.10),

PRE-FLOP
Lemmy Ruoste folds, Andy_158 folds, zero_day raises to $0.40, shuhai folds, scaredmenow calls $0.40.

FLOP [board cards: 5S,AD,6D ]
scaredmenow checks, zero_day bets $0.70, scaredmenow calls $0.70.

TURN [board cards: 5S,AD,6D,AC ]
scaredmenow checks, zero_day bets $1.70, scaredmenow raises to $7.40, zero_day calls $7.40.

RIVER [board cards: 5S,AD,6D,AC,8H ]
scaredmenow bets $6.29 and is all-in, zero_day calls $1.50 and is all-in.

SHOWDOWN
scaredmenow shows [ AS,3D,JD,3S ]
zero_day shows [ 6C,JC,6S,QD ]
zero_day wins $18.76.



SUMMARY
Dealer: zero_day
Pot: $20.10, (including rake: $1.34)
Lemmy Ruoste, loses $0
Andy_158, loses $0
zero_day, bets $10, collects $18.76, net $8.76
shuhai, loses $0.10
scaredmenow, loses $10
^my hand history
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:12 PM   #6
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

That's kind of weird that they compensated him a $10 tourney ticket
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:20 PM   #7
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

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That's kind of weird that they compensated him a $10 tourney ticket
their price to buy my silence was not high enough lulz

seriously I dont know why
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:48 PM   #8
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

plo15 seems to be 5%
Seems like the 6.67% is for plo10 and probably lower
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Old 06-23-2011, 04:32 AM   #9
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

Typical. Remove the $1.50 rake cap and increase the rake from 1c/20c to 1c/15c, never inform the customers. Only at Ongame.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:03 AM   #10
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

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That's kind of weird that they compensated him a $10 tourney ticket

Nah, that is normal, pretty much whenever you complain anything money wise you get a few of those.
I see it as an insult. Either compensate me in full or dont. Not to mention those are rather useless to me anyway at least give me CF tenners so I can have some fun for 30 seconds. So whenever I feel they are shorting me for anything or not telling me in advance what they should have told me, I simply withdraw everything.
Then in a week or so I get a mail, "is everything all right", "are you not satisfied with something", etc. Then I tell them exactly what I think, not that I feel like they care.
But at least I feel better about spending couple of Ks of rake somewhere where they actually care about what players think, or at least not change everything for the worst every couple of weeks.
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:36 AM   #11
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Re: Ongame has now a 6.67% rake instead of 5%

i noticed the same. 6.67% at NLH 10 and lower. 33% rake increase that is.
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